Bible alone!

[David in NJ]

I never realised that there were people around who called themselves Christian and didn't believe in the three person Godhead. I've lived a sheltered life.

You and i are the same on this.
I actually feel quite safe in the arms of Jesus as a simple sheep of His Fold.

 

[David in NJ]

Yes, this is just one of the many reasons why the Roman Catholic Church is just silly. Dressing up in holy garments is another one that just always rubbed me the wrong way about the RCC, too. Well, the OT (Old Testament) was different, but they still treat the NT as if it is the New Covenant. Then they mix in idolatry into the mix and say it is Christian? The RCC is obviously false for anyone who simply just reads their Bible and asks God for the understanding on it. The only way a person is Catholic is if they have been taught that or they have idolatrous leanings.

It's called 'Eye Appeal' and this is satan's go to approach = See Garden incident

When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.

 

[Pearl]

You and i are the same on this.
I actually feel quite safe in the arms of Jesus as a simple sheep of His Fold.

Jesus did not make things complicated but so many Christians seem to.

 

[David in NJ]

Jesus did not make things complicated but so many Christians seem to.

At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. 26Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 27All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.

 

[theefaith]

Again, where does scripture say "God the son"?

You teach it, so produce the verse.

We believe that the one God eternally exists in three Persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit; and that these three are one God, co-equal and co-eternal, having precisely the same nature and attributes, and worthy of precisely the same worship, confidence, and obedience. Matthew 3:16, 17; Matthew 28:19, 20; Mark 12:29; John 1:14; Acts 5:3, 4; II Corinthians 13:14.

 

[theefaith]

The RCC does not represent the Apostles, but imposters.

fundamentalism is darkness

Christ and his church are the light of the world!

 

[theefaith]

...thus saith the Pope!

With the authority of Christ

to reject is to reject Christ

lk 10:16 he who hears you hears me
He who rejects you rejects me

 

[David in NJ]

15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;


It does not say Jesus is the invisible God, but the image of the invisible God.

It also says the invisible God that makes stuff fully indwells the firstborn from the dead(Jesus).

This firstborn concept gives the man Christ Jesus, preeminence(human preexistence).

Image of God means HE is ELOHIM Son who is ELOHIM Father who is ELOHIM Holy Spirit.

“Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. 2In My Father’s house are many [a]mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also. 4And where I go you know, and the way you know.”

5Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, and how can we know the way?”

6Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

7“If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.”

8Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.”

9Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. 11Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.

No one can fully understand this nor even wrap their head around it.
WHY? Because HE is God and we are not...........

 

[theefaith]

So, you think human nature(baby) and divine nature(mighty God) are the same?

no the father son and spirit are three persons with one divine nature

The father
The son
The spirit

is God

but individuals separate persons

like you, me and pearl are three persons, individuals, unique
Yes the same human nature

 

[theefaith]

Read the logic of my previous reply:

And nowhere in scripture does it actually, in so many words, include infants. But logically an infant cannot repent. An infant cannot die to self. And neither can an infant seek forgiveness of sin. Look at the logic.

repentance for an infant for what?
They have no personal sin to repent of?

the Christian church has always baptized infants

even many Protestant churches baptize infants

fundamentalism is darkness
Christ is the light of truth!

 

[David in NJ]

repentance for an infant for what?
They have no personal sin to repent of?

the Christian church has always baptized infants

even many Protestant churches baptize infants

fundamentalism is darkness
Christ is the light of truth!

Infants are born in sin = Psalm 51 = "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin my mother conceived me."

 

[Pearl]

repentance for an infant for what?
They have no personal sin to repent of?

But the scripture says:
Acts 2:38
Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

And you didn't address the logic: But logically an infant cannot repent. An infant cannot die to self. And neither can an infant seek forgiveness of sin. Look at the logic.

 

[theefaith]

Yes, Royal because He - Jesus - is Royal. How else would it be royal with our King Jesus as High Priest?

Heb 7:17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

20 And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest:

21 (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:)

22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

23 And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:

24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.

25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

 

[theefaith]

It is this priesthood that offers the sacrifice of Christ in an unbloody offering

mal 1:11

11 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the Lordof hosts.

 

[Marymog]

Jesus did not make things complicated but so many Christians seem to.

This seems pretty complicated:
51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats of this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.” 52 The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” 53 So Jesus said to them, “Very truly, I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood have eternal life, and I will raise them up on the last day; 55 for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink. 56 Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood abide in me, and I in them. 57 Just as the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so whoever eats me will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven, not like that which your ancestors ate, and they died. But the one who eats this bread will live forever.”

 

[Pearl]

Heb 7:17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

20 And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest:

21 (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:)

22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

23 And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:

24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.

25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

Hebrews 3:1
Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts on Jesus, whom we acknowledge as our apostle and high priest.
Hebrews 4:14
Jesus the Great High Priest
Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has ascended into heaven, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess.
Hebrews 6:20
where our forerunner, Jesus, has entered on our behalf. He has become a high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.

 

[David in NJ]

Heb 7:17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

20 And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest:

21 (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:)

22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

23 And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:

24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.

25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

GOD - now submit unto the High Priest JESUS so that your sins can be forgiven.

Confessing your sins to sinful men in hopes of forgiveness from God is an act of sin in itself.

When the Bible says confess your sins to one another = this is only for Blood washed Saints.

 

[David in NJ]

This seems pretty complicated:
51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats of this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.” 52 The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” 53 So Jesus said to them, “Very truly, I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood have eternal life, and I will raise them up on the last day; 55 for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink. 56 Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood abide in me, and I in them. 57 Just as the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so whoever eats me will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven, not like that which your ancestors ate, and they died. But the one who eats this bread will live forever.”

JESUS says to you: "These words I speak, they are Spirit, for the flesh profits NOTHING..........."

 

[Jim B]

This seems pretty complicated:
51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats of this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.” 52 The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” 53 So Jesus said to them, “Very truly, I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood have eternal life, and I will raise them up on the last day; 55 for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink. 56 Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood abide in me, and I in them. 57 Just as the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so whoever eats me will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven, not like that which your ancestors ate, and they died. But the one who eats this bread will live forever.”

It is not complicated, it's symbolic.

 

[Jim B]

GOD - now submit unto the High Priest JESUS so that your sins can be forgiven.

Confessing your sins to sinful men in hopes of forgiveness from God is an act of sin in itself.

When the Bible says confess your sins to one another = this is only for Blood washed Saints.

I agree that confessing your sins to sinful men (priests) in hopes of forgiveness from God is an act of sin in itself. This is why Catholics confessing their sins to priests and the penance required is ridiculous.

"When the Bible says confess your sins to one another" = this is only for Blood washed Saints" is not accurate. It's known more familiarly as apologizing.