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theefaith

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Classic example of mass distortion of scripture by the RCC.

Scripture is the possession of the church founded by Christ on Peter and his successors and not yours
Cannot use scripture against the church cos the church wrote the new testament scripture!
 

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I use the Bible only.

You can tinker with endless commentaries if you please.

People love writing their opinion pieces.

without the apostolic authority you cannot know!

scripture was canonized in 381 by the supreme Roman pontiff with the authority of Christ not the kjv boys with no authority from Christ or the apostles
 

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Cannot use scripture against the church cos the church wrote the new testament scripture!

Actually, other then the Gospels, and The Revelation of John........Paul wrote most of the NT.
And He's not a Catholic.
And just so you know, God is not a catholic, and Jesus is not a catholic......especially not a "Roman" catholic.


Why is that? Its because God and Christ are not into cults.
And neither should you be....
 
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No, they teach that Jesus was satan's brother.

Get it right, don't equate it with what I said.

This is true as they also teach Jesus was a man before coming to earth and even worse that HE was created.
 

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Scripture is the possession of the church founded by Christ on Peter and his successors and not yours
Cannot use scripture against the church cos the church wrote the new testament scripture!
I miss the good ol days of 2000 years ago before the crooks came to ruin Christianity with commentary.

Don't you?
 

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without the apostolic authority you cannot know!

scripture was canonized in 381 by the supreme Roman pontiff with the authority of Christ not the kjv boys with no authority from Christ or the apostles
Pontiff?

Is that a boat?
 

Truther

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This is true as they also teach Jesus was a man before coming to earth and even worse that HE was created.
4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

False idea?
 

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4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

False idea?

So I will let you discover Truth = compare to John ch1

After you compare these, and other Scripture, let me know what you find.

May the Grace of Christ abound to you and your family.
 

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I miss the good ol days of 2000 years ago before the crooks came to ruin Christianity with commentary.

Don't you?

It possible the church is eternal and truth is immutable

sorry for using such big words! Lol
 
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Truther

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So I will let you discover Truth = compare to John ch1

After you compare these, and other Scripture, let me know what you find.

May the Grace of Christ abound to you and your family.
I discovered the truth of Hebrews 1 saying Jesus was made....

If he was made, he was created.

Now you know what the definition of "begotten" is per God's only begotten son.
 

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I discovered the truth of Hebrews 1 saying Jesus was made....

If he was made, he was created.

Now you know what the definition of "begotten" is per God's only begotten son.

Keep digging because Genesis and John have the Truth.
Therefore you are misunderstanding what is written in Hebrews about exactly what was 'made'.
 

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Keep digging because Genesis and John have the Truth.
Therefore you are misunderstanding what is written in Hebrews about exactly what was 'made'.
It says Jesus was made...the angels also...

What deeper meaning is there?
 

David in NJ

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It says Jesus was made...the angels also...

What deeper meaning is there?

Never says Jesus was created.
"Made a little lower then the angels for the suffering of death"

The usage of the word 'made' here does not denote that Elohim Son was created.

Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers. 15Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 17And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some. 19Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
 

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I discovered the truth of Hebrews 1 saying Jesus was made....

If he was made, he was created.

Now you know what the definition of "begotten" is per God's only begotten son.

Christ in His divine nature is eternal and eternally begotten

in his humanity he became man

Christ has two natures and two wills (volition)
Fully divine
Fully human