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The only companion we need as we read our bibles is the Holy Spirit. The leaders of both the fellowships I've belonged to have taught people to check the scriptures for themselves and not rely solely on what they preach on a Sunday. I think that is a very healthy attitude. It's a shame that some people on here can only quote the false doctrines that they have been taught since childhood without asking for the help of the Holy Spirit in revealing the truths of the bible to them.
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then you are saying Christ is crazy
He founded the church and hierarchy on the authority of Peter and the apostles

the unity of the church is faith
You cannot be in union without that faith

without the apostolic tradition you could not have a Bible or know what is and what is not scripture

Is the gospel of Thomas scripture or the gospel of Mathew?

How do you know?

The church does not require scripture to know the truths revealed by God! Jude 1:3, 1 Tim 3:15

Church is eternal! Lk 1:32-33

Christ and His apostolic church are one! Matt 5:14 Jn 15:1 Acts 9:4 eph 5:32 1 Tim 3:15

The holy church is a Perfect society founded by Christ for the salvation of all men!

And to Faithfully transmit and saintly safeguard the deposit of faith!

No one has authority from Christ except His church of the apostles to define and declare truth!

Scripture is the possession of the church!

All of divine revelation is the word of God and thee faith given to the church of the apostles by Christ
to safeguard against all error, and
to faithfully teach all nations!

The doctrine of the “Bible alone” is heresy and is opposed by the scriptures. Matt 16:28-19 Matt 18:18 Jn 29:21-23 Acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

The church is an extension of Christ who taught the truth, and the church is commanded to teach all nations these same truths called the deposit of faith! Matt 28:19 Jude 1:3

All scripture came by tradition!

By divine, apostolic, and inspired human tradition that is verified by the apostolic tradition!

The church of the apostles founded by Christ on Peter & the apostles received all of the faith, all truths revealed by God personally taught by Christ to his church!

The rule of faith is the doctrine of the apostles! Or the apostolic tradition! Acts 2:42

All men Must be taught, or instructed, Lk 1:4 acts 8:31 and hear the church Matt 18:17 and the church is the pillar of truth 1 Tim 3:15 cos Christ and his apostolic church are one!
Matt 5:14 , Jn 15:5, Acts 9:4, Eph 5:32

Truth must be revealed by Christ Jude 1:3 and taught by his apostolic church. Matt 28:19

The holy church does not require scripture to know the truth cos the church received the “deposit of faith” Jude 1:3 from Christ in person and the church of the apostles by apostolic authority and inspired human authority wrote the scriptures, and the apostolic authority verified them, declared what is inspired scripture, and what is not the inspired scripture, as an example the gospel of Thomas is not inspired scripture but the gospel of Matthew is inspired scripture.

The deposit of faith, the entire divine revelation and word of God is given to the church of the apostles by Christ to safeguard against all error!
And to faithfully teach all nations!
Jude 1:3, Matt 28:19

The church of the apostles founded by Christ on Peter received all of the faith, all truths revealed by God personally taught by Christ to his apostles!

The rule of faith is the doctrine of the apostles! Acts 2:42

Must hear the church Matt 18:17 the church is the pillar of truth 1 Tim 3:15 cos Christ and his apostolic church are one!
Matt 5:14
Jn 15:5
Acts 9:4
eph 5:32

Truth must be revealed by Christ Jude 1:3 and taught by his apostolic church Matt 28:19

The church does not require scripture to know truth cos the church received the “deposit of faith” Jude 1:3 from Christ in person and the church of the apostles by apostolic authority and inspired human authority wrote the scriptures.

Scripture is the possession of the church! Used for the needs and purposes in the church!

All new testament Scripture was written by the church!


Divine revelation or the word of God! Handed to His church of the apostles by Christ! Jude 1:3
To safeguard against all error!
To faithfully teach all nations!
Matt 28:19
The church is founded on the Apostles' doctrine with Christ being the chief cornerstone.

Fraudsters add endless commentaries to the Apostles' doctrine found in the Bible and erode the cornerstone from folks' minds.
 

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Christ taught his church in the person of his apostles directly not from scripture

so you’re saying the church needs scripture to write scripture? That’s absurd!
The Apostles left their doctrines in the Bible.

We need nothing else.
 
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the church does not require scripture to know the truths of divine revelation!
The church needs to learn bible doctrine very , very well . So as none will enter into a false place under false men .
My advice , GO ye and learn this real fast .
Not you or the other catholics shall silence my voice .
I stand on Christ and will constantly be pointing people to learn the bible well , so as none will be decieved by a lie .
You seriously need to do this . Just start over in that bible . Many catholics through all ages
have done this . And they realized , OH dear its us who were duped . My advice go ye and do the same .
You will be prayed for , as i desire none to perish .
But my body will be cold and stinking in the soil , Long before i stop telling folks to get in that bible
and learn that JESUS . Many have been decieved . Many . A harlot sits and calls for her daughters
to unify with her . And not only that she calls unto all the worlds religoins .
She does not point to JESUS , she does not tell these lost in sin and unbelief that they must repent and beleive IN JESUS .
NO she sows a lie and a deadly delusion . I wont be sitting at her table of unity.
My advice is , let none do so . The harlot decieves and the harlot kills those who resist her .
She has done so through many generations . My advice , FLEE her tabernacles and never look back .
She has infected many now . And her end will be perdition as will all who go under her and drink of her cup of fornication .
We are about to witness a fully unified religion and under the harlot it shall sit . THEY merging to be one even as we speak .
I never seen such a strong delusion as this before . And wordly wise This harlot is . For she uses
words like love , unity , tolerance , bridge builders , finding common ground , healing the wound
But it is her whose wound is open and bleeding and full of puss . SHE regards not the one true gosple .
SHE desires only that the world unite as one under her . AND she has killed before
and she will again . GET IN YOUR BIBLE THEE FAITH . Her lie is very seductive and it allures to the flesh of man .
GET in YOUR BIBLE . I will be praying for you .
 
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I have Catholic family who never read bibles and never go near a church. And I had Catholic friends who did and left the CC to join the non denominational church I belong to.
 
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Christ taught his church in the person of his apostles directly not from scripture

so you’re saying the church needs scripture to write scripture? That’s absurd!
IF anyone knows their bible , they would easily see how often paul himself and others would quoate the scrips .
The thing is many dont know their bible . But had rather sit under men who tell them
OH its too hard for you to grasp , COME and let us EXPLAIN it TO YOU .
ITS HOW they have decieved in times past , and its how they decieve still today .
THEE FAITH . OPEN BIBLE and start reading it big time . Hurry . Hurry and never look back .
 

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I have Catholic family who never read bibles and never go near a church. And I had Catholic friends who did and left the CC to join the non denominational church I belong to.
Exactly . This is why i am pratically begging thee faith and the others to GO back to that bible .
MANY catholics who did this had their eyes opened and they left that church .
We must do all now to point to Christ , all biblical reminders of the truth . For a very strong delusion has
began to fill many places .
 

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Is there more than one new covenant?
NO . THERE is only ONE COVENANT .
IT is for both gentile and jew . There is only one gospel and it is the same for gentile and jew .
YE must believe in Christ , confess HIM by the mouth and believe from the heart that GOD has rose HIM
from the dead . AND anything the early church taught in their letters , as well as EVERY WORD of JESUS
a lamb is a hearer and a doer of it all . IF JESUS said a lamb does .
IF JESUS said not to do , a lamb does not do .
In a sense a i guess there are two convenants . BUT ONE IS DEATH and the TRUE COVENANT IN CHRIST IS ETERNAL LIFE .
The harlot , she is under the covenant of death and knows it not . She has infected many
and she has been around a very , very long time
The CC is under her control as is most all of the protestant realm , as is many unbelieving jews and any other false religion .
SHE IS MERGING THEM ALL NOW to be as one . Many heed her call thinking its love and unity etc
But its death and its end will be the second death .
She has influenced even the kings of this world and she rides high upon the world . She is a city of her own .
A CITY of her own . Yall, we had better get in our bibles now . Or many aint gonna make it .
 

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The church is founded on the Apostles' doctrine with Christ being the chief cornerstone.

Fraudsters add endless commentaries to the Apostles' doctrine found in the Bible and erode the cornerstone from folks' minds.

where do we find this doctrine of the apostles?
 

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The Apostles left their doctrines in the Bible.

We need nothing else.

what is the Bible?
What book starts out this is a list of the books and chapters of the Bible?
Gospel of Thomas included?
Daniel 13 included?

where does scripture say all truth revealed by God is in scripture?

or the divine revelation is only in the scripture?

or the word of God is limited to scripture?

what about all those scriptures that refer to the authority of the apostles to teach and we must be instructed???
 

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Exactly . This is why i am pratically begging thee faith and the others to GO back to that bible .
MANY catholics who did this had their eyes opened and they left that church .
We must do all now to point to Christ , all biblical reminders of the truth . For a very strong delusion has
began to fill many places .
I have run out of things to say to theefaith. Up to now I have been telling him the things I believe God wanted me to tell him. But I think the point has come now where it's all been said. We have set out our stall with the truth and he has set out his with Catholic dogma. It's in God's hands now but I do hope and pray that he will set aside his pride and set aside his beliefs for a while and be open minded enough to at least ask the Holy Spirit to reveal to him what we have been trying to say.
 

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The church needs to learn bible doctrine very , very well . So as none will enter into a false place under false men .
My advice , GO ye and learn this real fast .
Not you or the other catholics shall silence my voice .
I stand on Christ and will constantly be pointing people to learn the bible well , so as none will be decieved by a lie .
You seriously need to do this . Just start over in that bible . Many catholics through all ages
have done this . And they realized , OH dear its us who were duped . My advice go ye and do the same .
You will be prayed for , as i desire none to perish .
But my body will be cold and stinking in the soil , Long before i stop telling folks to get in that bible
and learn that JESUS . Many have been decieved . Many . A harlot sits and calls for her daughters
to unify with her . And not only that she calls unto all the worlds religoins .
She does not point to JESUS , she does not tell these lost in sin and unbelief that they must repent and beleive IN JESUS .
NO she sows a lie and a deadly delusion . I wont be sitting at her table of unity.
My advice is , let none do so . The harlot decieves and the harlot kills those who resist her .
She has done so through many generations . My advice , FLEE her tabernacles and never look back .
She has infected many now . And her end will be perdition as will all who go under her and drink of her cup of fornication .
We are about to witness a fully unified religion and under the harlot it shall sit . THEY merging to be one even as we speak .
I never seen such a strong delusion as this before . And wordly wise This harlot is . For she uses
words like love , unity , tolerance , bridge builders , finding common ground , healing the wound
But it is her whose wound is open and bleeding and full of puss . SHE regards not the one true gosple .
SHE desires only that the world unite as one under her . AND she has killed before
and she will again . GET IN YOUR BIBLE THEE FAITH . Her lie is very seductive and it allures to the flesh of man .
GET in YOUR BIBLE . I will be praying for you .


The church needs scripture to write scripture? That’s absurd!

The nature of the church!

The church does not require scripture to know the truths revealed by God! Jude 1:3, 1 Tim 3:15

Church is eternal! Lk 1:32-33

Christ and His apostolic church are one! Matt 5:14 Jn 15:1 Acts 9:4 eph 5:32 1 Tim 3:15

The holy church is a Perfect society founded by Christ for the salvation of all men!

And to Faithfully transmit and saintly safeguard the deposit of faith!

No one has authority from Christ except His church of the apostles to define and declare truth!

Scripture is the possession of the church!

All of divine revelation is the word of God and thee faith given to the church of the apostles by Christ
to safeguard against all error, and
to faithfully teach all nations!

The doctrine of the “Bible alone” is heresy and is opposed by the scriptures. Matt 16:28-19 Matt 18:18 Jn 29:21-23 Acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

The church is an extension of Christ who taught the truth, and the church is commanded to teach all nations these same truths called the deposit of faith! Matt 28:19 Jude 1:3

All scripture came by tradition!

By divine, apostolic, and inspired human tradition that is verified by the apostolic tradition!

The church of the apostles founded by Christ on Peter & the apostles received all of the faith, all truths revealed by God personally taught by Christ to his church!

The rule of faith is the doctrine of the apostles! Or the apostolic tradition! Acts 2:42

All men Must be taught, or instructed, Lk 1:4 acts 8:31 and hear the church Matt 18:17 and the church is the pillar of truth 1 Tim 3:15 cos Christ and his apostolic church are one!
Matt 5:14 , Jn 15:5, Acts 9:4, Eph 5:32

Truth must be revealed by Christ Jude 1:3 and taught by his apostolic church. Matt 28:19

The holy church does not require scripture to know the truth cos the church received the “deposit of faith” Jude 1:3 from Christ in person and the church of the apostles by apostolic authority and inspired human authority wrote the scriptures, and the apostolic authority verified them, declared what is inspired scripture, and what is not the inspired scripture, as an example the gospel of Thomas is not inspired scripture but the gospel of Matthew is inspired scripture.

The deposit of faith, the entire divine revelation and word of God is given to the church of the apostles by Christ to safeguard against all error!
And to faithfully teach all nations!
Jude 1:3, Matt 28:19

The church of the apostles founded by Christ on Peter received all of the faith, all truths revealed by God personally taught by Christ to his apostles!

The rule of faith is the doctrine of the apostles! Acts 2:42

Must hear the church Matt 18:17 the church is the pillar of truth 1 Tim 3:15 cos Christ and his apostolic church are one!
Matt 5:14
Jn 15:5
Acts 9:4
eph 5:32

Truth must be revealed by Christ Jude 1:3 and taught by his apostolic church Matt 28:19

The church does not require scripture to know truth cos the church received the “deposit of faith” Jude 1:3 from Christ in person and the church of the apostles by apostolic authority and inspired human authority wrote the scriptures.

Scripture is the possession of the church! Used for the needs and purposes in the church!

All new testament Scripture was written by the church!


Divine revelation or the word of God! Handed to His church of the apostles by Christ! Jude 1:3
To safeguard against all error!
To faithfully teach all nations!
Matt 28:19
 

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IF anyone knows their bible , they would easily see how often paul himself and others would quoate the scrips .
The thing is many dont know their bible . But had rather sit under men who tell them
OH its too hard for you to grasp , COME and let us EXPLAIN it TO YOU .
ITS HOW they have decieved in times past , and its how they decieve still today .
THEE FAITH . OPEN BIBLE and start reading it big time . Hurry . Hurry and never look back .

it’s what o read that you contradict!

lk 10:16
Matt 16:18-19
Matt 28:19-20
Jn 20:21-23

do men have power to forgive sins?
(absolve men of sins committed against God)?
 

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IF anyone knows their bible , they would easily see how often paul himself and others would quoate the scrips .
The thing is many dont know their bible . But had rather sit under men who tell them
OH its too hard for you to grasp , COME and let us EXPLAIN it TO YOU .
ITS HOW they have decieved in times past , and its how they decieve still today .
THEE FAITH . OPEN BIBLE and start reading it big time . Hurry . Hurry and never look back .
Explain
lk 3:2
The word of God came to John
What scripture was it?

explain 1cor 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you

tell me from the Bible alone what Christ commanded the apostles in Matt 28:20