HERESY?

[Keiw]

John 4:22 "Ye worship, ye know not what." That was said by Jesus to the apostate Samaritans and Jews who incorporated the worship of idols with the worship of the Jewish god.
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Its about any false God and Jesus told all the proper way to serve God-The Father alone.

 

[Keiw]

No, Jesus inherited his name from his God per Heb 1:4.

This means his name belonged to his God first.

God did not just make up Jesus' name from a baby book, but named him after Himself.

This is why Jesus said "I am come in my Father's name.

The Fathers name is YHWH(Jehovah) -- so your reasoning is off.

 

[Cooper]

The Fathers name is YHWH(Jehovah) -- so your reasoning is off.

You were off the current topic in your post to me, and you do not seem to know that the I AM is Jehovah. I need to put you back on ignore. Sorry.
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[Truther]

Its about any false God and Jesus told all the proper way to serve God-The Father alone.

We serve and speak to the Father THROUGH the son.

Made possible because the Father dwells INSIDE the son(Col 2:9)

 

[Truther]

The Fathers name is YHWH(Jehovah) -- so your reasoning is off.

The Father had several names in the OT.

He was also called Jesus in Hebrews 1:4.

Jesus inherited his name from his Father, just like we can inherit our earthly father's name.

Be sure, per the verse, that the angel coming with the announcement of "thou shalt call his name Jesus...", that the child was given the Fathers name at that moment.

 

[Truther]

You were off the current topic in your post to me, and you do not seem to know that the I AM is Jehovah. I need to put you back on ignore. Sorry.
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Censorship wins?

 

[JesusFan1]

The Father had several names in the OT.

He was also called Jesus in Hebrews 1:4.

Jesus inherited his name from his Father, just like we can inherit our earthly father's name.

Be sure, per the verse, that the angel coming with the announcement of "thou shalt call his name Jesus...", that the child was given the Fathers name at that moment.

Jesus is not the father, but both are Yahweh!

 

[Cooper]

The Father had several names in the OT.

He was also called Jesus in Hebrews 1:4.

Jesus inherited his name from his Father, just like we can inherit our earthly father's name.

Be sure, per the verse, that the angel coming with the announcement of "thou shalt call his name Jesus...", that the child was given the Fathers name at that moment.

Heb 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
Yes, Jesus.

 

[Cooper]

Censorship wins?

Not really, but it turns attention away from something more important.
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[Cooper]

Jesus is not the father, but both are Yahweh!

And... Both are One and both are eternal.

Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. (17) And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: (18) I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

The eternal Jesus. :)
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[JesusFan1]

And... Both are One and both are eternal.

Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. (17) And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: (18) I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

The eternal Jesus. :)
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And there is also the Eternal father and Holy Spirit!

 

[Cooper]

And there is also the Eternal father and Holy Spirit!

Wouldn't it be wonderful if everyone worshipped the "I AM", the One God, Jews, Samaritans like the woman at the well, and Gentiles alike, all united in Christ. It will happen, and in this troubled world, the sooner, the better.
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[Bob Carabbio]

No, Jesus inherited his name from his God per Heb 1:4.

This means his name belonged to his God first.

God did not just make up Jesus' name from a baby book, but named him after Himself.

This is why Jesus said "I am come in my Father's name.

"In my Father's name" or "In Jesus' name" means with the authority of the one named.

In most cases ending a prayer with "In Jesus' Name" is meaningless, since Jesus AUTHORITY is not something we can Claim.

 

[GodsGrace]

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (1 John 5:7 KJV)

And there you have it...:
"and these three are one"

Three are in the One.
What I've been saying to you all along and what is the understanding of traditional/orthodox Christianity.

But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. (Micah 5:2 KJV)

In fact, Jesus is from the beginning...from everlasting.

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. (Hebrews 13:8 KJV) thereby declaring Christ’s immutability "…that he is unchangeable; that he always was, is, and will be to all eternity, the same; that he is subject to no change either in his essence or in his perfections" (Wakefield, Vol. 1, p. 156). Cf. Php_2:6-8; Jas_1:17 and notes.

Why do you post perfectly correct verses but then make statements that are not correct?

Note that the Incarnation was a change of estate, not nature. In the Incarnation, Christ:
(1) has all the fullness of the Godhead dwelling in Him (Col_2:9);

(2) is One with the Father (Joh_10:30);

(3) is Omnipotent (cf. Joh_5:19; Joh_7:9-13; Joh_7:19; Joh_7:21; Joh_10:17-18; Joh_11:43-44; Joh_16:15);

(4) is Omniscient (cf. Mat_11:21; Mat_11:23; Joh_2:24-25; Joh_6:64; Joh_16:15);

(5) is Omnipresent (cf. Mat_18:20; Mat_28:20; Joh_3:13);

(6) has all things whatsoever the Father has (Joh_16:15);

(7) has power to remove sin (cf. Mat_9:2; Mat_9:6);

(8) received worship as God (cf. Mat_2:11; Mat_8:1-2; Mat_14:33; Joh_9:35-38).

Thus, Jesus remains essentially and eternally the same throughout His profound mutations of estate—pre-Incarnation, Incarnation, death, resurrection, glorification—even for the ages of eternity! (LNT, fn i). T76-4,

Jesus is immutable. Heb_13:9, *Heb_1:12, +*Exo_3:14; Exo_3:15; Exo_38:1, Psa_90:2; Psa_90:4; *Psa_102:27; *Psa_102:28; Psa_103:17, Isa_41:4; Isa_44:6, +*Mal_3:6, Mat_12:32; +*Mat_28:19 note. +*Joh_8:35; Joh_8:56-58, 2Co_1:19-20, Php_2:6, 1Ti_6:16, **Jas_1:17, Rev_1:4; Rev_1:8; Rev_1:11; Rev_1:17-18.

yesterday. Psa_93:2, Isa_30:33; Isa_43:13; *Isa_63:16, +*Mic_5:2, Hab_1:12, Joh_1:1; Joh_1:15; *Joh_8:58, Col_1:17, Rev_4:8.

and. FS148, +Gen_8:22.

to day. FS22D4B, +Dan_7:9, Heb_3:15, Isa_46:4, *+Joh_8:58, +*Rev_1:8; Rev_4:8.

for ever. Gr. aion, +Mat_6:13, lit. unto the ages. Heb_13:21, **Heb_7:24; **Heb_7:25, Psa_9:7; *Psa_102:12, +*Isa_43:3; +*Isa_43:11; *Isa_63:16, Lam_5:19, Hab_3:6, Rom_1:25; Rom_9:5; Rom_11:36; **Rom_16:26; **Rom_16:27, 2Co_11:31, Rev_4:8.

From the Believers Bible commentary.
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You see Cooper, all of the above is right.
The problem is that you believe Jesus is the Father.
Jesus is the Son.
Before He was the Son He was the Word of God. John 1:1

The Word was always with the Father and the Word became flesh.
The Word, the 2nd person of the 3 - is now known as The Son.
The Holy Spirit can be said to be the Breath of God or the Love God shares with the Son...

The Father is God but is NOT the Son...
Jesus went to the cross, NOT THE FATHER.
But they are One in being.

As far as theologians can tell, Father never came to earth...
even in the O.T. it was always the 2nd Person...the Word of God, that came to earth.

I'm posting the image again...
It's correct the way it is...

 

[JesusFan1]

And there you have it...:
"and these three are one"

Three are in the One.
What I've been saying to you all along and what is the understanding of traditional/orthodox Christianity.


In fact, Jesus is from the beginning...from everlasting.



Why do you post perfectly correct verses but then make statements that are not correct?



You see Cooper, all of the above is right.
The problem is that you believe Jesus is the Father.
Jesus is the Son.
Before He was the Son He was the Word of God. John 1:1

The Word was always with the Father and the Word became flesh.
The Word, the 2nd person of the 3 - is now known as The Son.
The Holy Spirit can be said to be the Breath of God or the Love God shares with the Son...

The Father is God but is NOT the Son...
Jesus went to the cross, NOT THE FATHER.
But they are One in being.

As far as theologians can tell, Father never came to earth...
even in the O.T. it was always the 2nd Person...the Word of God, that came to earth.

I'm posting the image again...
It's correct the way it is...

View attachment 20777

Your image is correct!

 

[Truther]

Jesus is not the father, but both are Yahweh!

That makes no sense.

I agree with the fact that Jesus is not the Father, but 2 are 1?

2=1?

Don't trinitarians know math?

 

[Truther]

Not really, but it turns attention away from something more important.
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I say argue until you run out of arguments, then high five each other.

Never censor those we can't convince.

 

[Truther]

"In my Father's name" or "In Jesus' name" means with the authority of the one named.

In most cases ending a prayer with "In Jesus' Name" is meaningless, since Jesus AUTHORITY is not something we can Claim.

You don't go around in the authority of someone's name without verbally stating it.

Bob, you would not last long as an ambassador.

 

[Keiw]

You were off the current topic in your post to me, and you do not seem to know that the I AM is Jehovah. I need to put you back on ignore. Sorry.
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Its Heresy to add something in the OT that is not in the Hebrew writing, And it is also heresy to remove Gods name in the nearly 6800 spots in the OT. In the 300,s Jerome stated his name belongs in the NT as well.

 

[GodsGrace]

That makes no sense.

I agree with the fact that Jesus is not the Father, but 2 are 1?

2=1?

Don't trinitarians know math?

Actually Truther...
3 = 1

Did you know that if you understood things of God perfectly, you'd also be God.

It's cute how some think they could understand God.
We only know what God wants us to know.
Nothing more.