Christians and Jews are both anti Acts 2:38.

[Lifelong_sinner]

Ok, I don't agree that Adam and Jesus were to serve the same purpose here on earth. But that is beside the point.

If we are totally depraved and Jesus is obviously not. That proves calvinism is false teaching. By the fact that the Bible teaches Jesus was tempted in ALL ways as man was tempted.
It is obvious that if born in sin is true. We and Jesus are not tempted in All the same ways.

you dont have a clue. We are all totally depraved. Jesus was perfect however. Heres how sin works… there are 3 things necessary for sin to happen; temptation, desire, and opportunity. Temptation is not a sin, and of the 3 traits, desire is the worst one. Take away any one of those three traits, and sin wont happen. Calvinism is Biblically correct.

 

[Titus]

at least until 325AD when the infant RCC hijacked peter (long since dead) as their first pope.
And, if he is their pope, why don't they obey him?

at least until 325AD when the infant RCC hijacked peter (long since dead) as their first pope.
And, if he is their pope, why don't they obey him?

The overall story of the Bible is the story of 2 Adams'.

Truther how could the church The Lord is Head of not wear His name?
Revelation 21:2
Then I John saw the Holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Does the bride take and wear the name of the bridegroom?

 

[Titus]

you dont have a clue. We are all totally depraved. Jesus was perfect however. Heres how sin works… there are 3 things necessary for sin to happen; temptation, desire, and opportunity. Temptation is not a sin, and of the 3 traits, desire is the worst one. Take away any one of those three traits, and sin wont happen. Calvinism is Biblically correct.

You are giving zero scripture to back up your supposed Biblical doctrine.
If you want credibility, give book, chapter and verse.

Temptation is not a sin, correct.
BEING BORN IN SIN WITH A DEPRAVED SIN NATURE IS SIN!
Jesus does not have a sin nature.
Calving says we have a totally depraved mind that cannot resist temptations.
Jesus could resist temptations.
Therefore Calvinism is refuted by Hebrews 2:17,
Therefore in ALL, ALL, ALL ,ALL THINGS He had to be MADE LIKE HIS BRETHREN, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people.

 

[farouk]

Friend TU.I.L.P. is heresy,
Cornelius was not regenerated before he obeyed the gospel and was saved.

It is unbiblical to teach regeneration first
Then Faith
Then salvation.
Regeneration, justification, and salvation all occur when the blood of Jesus Christ is applied to our sins.
Regeneration is being born again.

Born again is saved.
Therefore regeneration occurs by the saving power of the gospel. When we believe and obey it. Then we contact the blood of Christ, Matthew 26:28 ; Acts 2:38.

Mr. Downey,
Please give book, chapter and verse where we are miraculously Holy Spirit baptized then regenerated before we come to faith by hearing the gospel, Romans 10:17?
Sir you are not letting the scriptures speak for themselves.
Cornelius was saved after he heard the gospel. That means he could not of been born again before he heard the gospel. If he was born again, hevwas born again without believing in Jesus!

Hi @Titus Faith is a work of the Spirit of God, not a work of the flesh; Ephesians 2 seems to indicate this...

 

[Titus]

Hi @Titus Faith is a work of the Spirit of God, not a work of the flesh; Ephesians 2 seems to indicate this...

I know. And we do works of Righteousness, Acts 10:35 through obedience to His authorized works,
John 6:28-29.
How may we work the works of God?

 

[farouk]

I know. And we do works of Righteousness, Acts 10:35 through obedience to His authorized works,
John 6:28-29.
How may we work the works of God?

Paul speaks of 'the obedience of faith'. John 6.19 indicates that it's a work of God to believe.

 

[Titus]

Paul speaks of 'the obedience of faith'. John 6.19 indicates that it's a work of God to believe.

Yes Sir, I know

 

[Titus]

Paul speaks of 'the obedience of faith'. John 6.19 indicates that it's a work of God to believe.

And Acts 10:35 teaches we work the works of God

 

[Titus]

Paul speaks of 'the obedience of faith'. John 6.19 indicates that it's a work of God to believe.

Cornelius worked Righteousness before he was saved.
This proves man has been gifted the ability to work the works of God without a miracle being directly performed on the individual.

 

[farouk]

Cornelius worked Righteousness before he was saved.
This proves man has been gifted the ability to work the works of God without a miracle being directly performed on the individual.

It showed Cornelius had increasing conviction, but good works can never be a work of the flesh and be acceptable to God.

 

[Titus]

It showed Cornelius had increasing conviction, but good works can never be a work of the flesh and be acceptable to God.

It showed Calvinism's Total depravity is unbiblical. Cornelius did the works of God before salvation. Praying is a work of God for He authorized it. Cornelius prayed daily before being regenerated, Acts 10:2.
Therefore Cornelius like all mankind has been gifted the ability to obey God before we are saved.

 

[farouk]

It showed Calvinism's Total depravity is unbiblical. Cornelius did the works of God before salvation. Praying is a work of God for He authorized it. Cornelius prayed daily before being regenerated, Acts 10:2.
Therefore Cornelius like all mankind has been gifted the ability to obey God before we are saved.

But Ephesians 2 shows that man is 'dead in tresspasses and sins'; a truly gruesome picture. This is why we need the grace of God; otherwise anything we bring by way of works is totally unacceptable.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Physical thinking and speaking with your mouth is not a personal work?

Then why did Jesus say this act can either justify or condemn us?

Your strange idea that the upper part of our body(above the neck) cannot work is absurd.

James even says our words can cause things to happen.

I think you haven't thought this thing through.

Yah sure. I guess John MacArthur has'nt thought things through either. Lol
Are you saved by grace through faith in Christ and not by works? Yes or no?

 

[PinSeeker]

It showed Calvinism's Total depravity is unbiblical. Cornelius did the works of God before salvation. Praying is a work of God for He authorized it. Cornelius prayed daily before being regenerated, Acts 10:2.

No, Acts 10:2 itself says Cornelius was "a devout man who feared God with all his household..." So yes, he prayed continually, but he was obviously converted, having a regenerate heart; that he was devout and feared God affirms that.

Cornelius like all mankind has been gifted the ability to obey God before we are saved.

No, God's salvific act and His call and justification precedes any ability to obey God in righteousness. Certain men, as Paul says in Ephesians 2, that it is "...not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them."

Grace and peace to you!

 

[Titus]

But Ephesians 2 shows that man is 'dead in tresspasses and sins'; a truly gruesome picture. This is why we need the grace of God; otherwise anything we bring by way of works is totally unacceptable.

Our works are totally unacceptable not Gods.

Are you aware there are all kinds of different works in the Bible?

Works of the law of Moses can save no one.
Paul's teaching this fact in Ephesians 2;8-9.
To be saved by the law of Moses man must keep the law PERFECTLY.
This is an impossibility. We cannot merit our salvation!
Hence why Paul condems works of merit that we would boast of saving ourselves.

Ephesians 2:8-9
For by Grace you have been saved through faith and not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
Not of works(merit) lest any should boast.

Works of the Mosaic law had no power to save.

But the work of faith in Jesus Christ does save,

John 6:28-29
Then they said to Him, What may we do, that we may work the works of God?
Jesus answered and said to them, This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.

Belief in Jesus Christ is a work of God. Works of God save.
Belief in the works of mans merit ie Old law keeping brings death not life, Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus(gospel of Jesus) has made me free from the law of sin and death(law of Moses).

Understanding the difference in works makes it clear that if our works are the works of God, Acts 10:35
Then our works are accepted by Him because they are not the works of man, Ephesians 2:8-9.

 

[Titus]

No, Acts 10:2 itself says Cornelius was "a devout man who feared God with all his household..." So yes, he prayed continually, but he was obviously converted, having a regenerate heart; that he was devout and feared God affirms that.


No, God's salvific act and His call and justification precedes any ability to obey God in righteousness. Certain men, as Paul says in Ephesians 2, that it is "...not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them."

Grace and peace to you!

He was obviously converted? WHAT!!!

, Acts 10:2 itself says Cornelius was "a devout man who feared God with all his household..." So yes, he prayed continually, but he was obviously converted,

Sir, you just said Cornelius was converted before he believed in the death, burial and ressurection of Christ,
1Corinthians 15:1-4

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

Hello Truther, I'm having a slight migraine, so I need to get off of here.
I am curious to know what church you are affiliated with?
I am a member of the Lords church, i.e. The church of Christ, Romans 16:16.

so you’re a mormon?? No wonder your theology is so bad.

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

Cornelius was converted. It said he feared the Lord, and prayed. Only saved people do that.

 

[PinSeeker]

He was obviously converted? WHAT!!!

Absolutely.

Sir, you just said Cornelius was converted before he believed in the death, burial and ressurection of Christ, 1Corinthians 15:1-4

Well, not directly, or in so many words, but yes, I did. We all need to be reborn of the Spirit before this can happen. Until then, we are dead in sin. Salvation is of the Lord.

Grace and peace to you.

 

[Titus]

so you’re a mormon?? No wonder your theology is so bad.

Friend, really? You think Paul was referring to the Mormon church in Romans 16:16?
I don't have a doctrine. My doctrine is who's I follow. Just as Paul had a gospel. I follow the same gospel Paul followed. That is the gospel of Christ, Mark 16:15-16.

Your theology is why you are lost and suffering friend.
I love you so much, Life,long sinner!
Just as our Savior Loves you!
The door is opened for you. Enter in to the arms of the Lord.