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Why wouldn't you think of "wilfull sin" as just that, "wilfull sin"? Why change it to something else?

I can never understand why people do that.

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A ten year old could “ get it” .....of course, they can’t be “Stiff- Necked”..... how’s your neck, all of you that hang on to your ignorance as if it were Virtue ?
 
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Not when it is Born with Gods Spirit because Gods Spirit cannot Die

The last line in the article you posted explains

The book of Revelation speaks of a “second death,” which is a final (and eternal) separation from God. Only those who have never experienced new life in Christ will partake of the second death

Did you read and understand that part?

When people come to know Christ as their Savior, they are brought into a relationship with God that guarantees their eternal security.

Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

God's power is able to keep the believer from falling. It is up to Him, not us, to present us before His glorious presence. Our eternal security is a result of God keeping us, not us maintaining our own salvation.

John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Who could possibly separate us from the grip of both the Father and the Son?

Ephesians 4:30 tells us that believers are "sealed for the day of redemption." If believers did not have eternal security, the sealing could not truly be unto the day of redemption, but only to the day of sinning

tells us that whoever believes in Jesus Christ will "have eternal life." If a person were to be promised eternal life, but then have it taken away, it was never "eternal" to begin with. If eternal security is not true, the promises of eternal life in the Bible would be in error.


Romans 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Our eternal security is based on God's love for those whom He has redeemed. Our eternal security is purchased by Christ, promised by the Father, and sealed by the Holy Spirit.
I wish you lot would stop this nonsense. You totally ignore the commandments of Jesus, you seem to forget that God hates the sinner, and you ignore what happens to those who blaspheme the Holy Spirit with their false teaching, making the Word of God to none effect.
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I'm sorry, but no drama for me..time to ignore......this will be a peaceful place to discuss...and if I see something taken the wrong way...I just find it best to put folks on ignore....I will not be drawn into going back and forth...with negativity....peace and blessings....if you can't feel good intention on my part...then it's best to pursue peace...by ignoring.....

Good for me.
Your negative accusations without merit were not received as you projecting a peaceful discussion.
 

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I wish you lot would stop this nonsense. You totally ignore the commandments of Jesus, you seem to forget that God hates the sinner, and you ignore what happens to those who blaspheme the Holy Spirit.

That is such incoherent non-sense accusations backed by absolutely nothing? Can you even make a coherent point Based on a fact, Or accusations all you have?
 
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A ten year old could “ get it” .....of course, they can’t be “Stiff- Necked”..... how’s your neck, all of you that hang on to your ignorance as if it were Virtue ?

Andrew Farley teaches contrary to what Hebrews 10:26-31 truly teaches. And as such:

"If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings" (1 Timothy 6:3-4)

Flee from him and cleanse yourself of his teachings:

"While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage." (2 Peter 2:19)
 
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People seem to think they can live as they like and get away with it because of God's grace. That is the teaching of Satan.

Satan is an accuser, you accuse based on what you seem to think people do, Think about it cooper, what are you doing
 

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Mr. Cooper has me on ignore... therefore I cannot get a hold of him or his little period (.)

STOP with these false accusations/assumptions/assertions/arguments that GRACE believers live like DOGS....

WE live like FREE.... BLESSED.... CONTENT.... and PURCHASED by the BLOOD of CHRIST children SHOULD live.

Sin is a non issue for an ACCEPTED and CHERISHED child of GOD... we don't condone it... we don't embrace it... we don't encourage it... and we certainly DON'T focus our entire lives on it... that is what LEGALISM does... focus on sin... sin ... sin... my sin... my neighbours sin... the dog's sin.... oh my goodness... LOOK at what that guy DID.... HE is bad... It is simply a NASTY and very UNHEALTHY way to live.

WHEN we fall short/sin... we bring it to CHRIST. END of ARGUMENT.

Christians are PURCHASED by the PRECIOUS BLOOD of CHRIST... we are called to live our lives in deep remembrance of that FACT.
 

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Satan is an accuser, you accuse based on what you seem to think people do, Think about it cooper, what are you doing
That is precisely what the accuser does. He accuses others of his wrongdoing and walks away smiling to himself, while those he falsely accuses try to defend themselves.
 

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That is precisely what the accuser does. He accuses others of his wrongdoing and walks away smiling to himself, while those he falsely accuses try to defend themselves.

That's the point you just proved you are it, by definition, I don't know if you are smiling But you have nothing so far but...acusations
 
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That's the point you you just proved you are it, by definition, I dont know if your smiling
I'm not the one who selects only certain scriptures and ignores others. Yet you are the one who is attacking me. Just remember it was the cults and false teachers who were the dogs and pigs Peter warned us about. "They were not of us." I shall repeat the words of Jesus, and in His name and through His precious blood I shall say, "in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, get thee behind me Satan."
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Just remember it was the cults and false teachers who were the dogs and pigs Peter warned us about. "They were not of us." I shall repeat the words of Jesus, and in His name and through His precious blood command Satan to "Get thee behind me."

Are you out of your mind don't play games with the Blood of Jesus, Don't change the subject but Back up your accusations, you are The accuser here just prove yourself or its clear to see what you are, look at your works prove what you are saying, Don't hide behind words out of context, It doesnt change the fact the burden of proof is on you, back it up...or just have fun been what you are, an accuser
 
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I'm not the one who selects only certain scriptures and ignores others. Yet you are the one who is attacking me.

Ok I noticed you edited your post, here you said

your post you said I wish you lot would stop this nonsense. You totally ignore the commandments of Jesus, you seem to forget that God hates the sinner, and you ignore what happens to those who blaspheme the Holy Spirit with their false teaching, making the Word of God to none effect.

Serious accusations But I attacked you ha....lol You cant back up one accusation, Look even tho your an accuser im going to presume your young or out of your mind, Just remember all you have is accusations, backed up with nothing....that leaves you the accuser here...get it
 

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@Cooper Good Message for you, nice read, from Addy, She may be able to help you

Mr. Cooper has me on ignore... therefore I cannot get a hold of him or his little period (.)

STOP with these false accusations/assumptions/assertions/arguments that GRACE believers live like DOGS....

WE live like FREE.... BLESSED.... CONTENT.... and PURCHASED by the BLOOD of CHRIST children SHOULD live.

Sin is a non issue for an ACCEPTED and CHERISHED child of GOD... we don't condone it... we don't embrace it... we don't encourage it... and we certainly DON'T focus our entire lives on it... that is what LEGALISM does... focus on sin... sin ... sin... my sin... my neighbours sin... the dog's sin.... oh my goodness... LOOK at what that guy DID.... HE is bad... It is simply a NASTY and very UNHEALTHY way to live.

WHEN we fall short/sin... we bring it to CHRIST. END of ARGUMENT.

Christians are PURCHASED by the PRECIOUS BLOOD of CHRIST... we are called to live our lives in deep remembrance of that FACT.
 
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@Cooper Good Message for you, nice read, from Addy, She may be able to help you

Mr. Cooper has me on ignore... therefore I cannot get a hold of him or his little period (.)

STOP with these false accusations/assumptions/assertions/arguments that GRACE believers live like DOGS....

WE live like FREE.... BLESSED.... CONTENT.... and PURCHASED by the BLOOD of CHRIST children SHOULD live.

Sin is a non issue for an ACCEPTED and CHERISHED child of GOD... we don't condone it... we don't embrace it... we don't encourage it... and we certainly DON'T focus our entire lives on it... that is what LEGALISM does... focus on sin... sin ... sin... my sin... my neighbours sin... the dog's sin.... oh my goodness... LOOK at what that guy DID.... HE is bad... It is simply a NASTY and very UNHEALTHY way to live.

WHEN we fall short/sin... we bring it to CHRIST. END of ARGUMENT.

Christians are PURCHASED by the PRECIOUS BLOOD of CHRIST... we are called to live our lives in deep remembrance of that FACT.
You are becoming very aggressive, which is another of Satan's titles, "the aggressor." How about you leave those who worship the God of peace alone.
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You are becoming very aggressive, which is another of Satan's titles, "the aggressor." How about you leave those who worship the God of peace alone.

Your back with a change of tactic..lol your as fake as you get, you can pretend all you want still nothing to offer...accuser

reading comprehension, It was from addy
 
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Why don't you people stop being offensive and go away.

You popped in to accuse accuser, but you have nothing, you can go or you can try and be more coherent doesnt bother me, if all you can do is accuse it's not gonna bother me, it's just what your gonna do, carry on or stop you choose