new version of OSAS?

[Eternally Grateful]

see, its all about some silly doctrine. It must be calvin or some other person.. smh

Thats why they have no comprehension of what OSAS really is..

OSAS was invented by God himself when he said a child who is born again will never die and has eternal life. when he promised he would complete the work. When he adopted us as his children and gave us the seal of the spirit. When he CHOSE to save us from the foundation of the world.

If God knew is from before time began. He certainly is not going to give someone something he will have to take back because he did not see everythign that person would do.

 

[marks]

Its funny, Because everytime they say OSAS says. they are wrong.

To me this is just more evidence that this is not an honest discussion.

Much love!

 

[kcnalp]

If you have a child who disobeyed you causing you to kick him out of your family and have them burned

you can understand where NOSAS came from

IOW:

"If I died when I didn’t believe I would have gone to Heaven because there was One Time That I DID Believe.....that’s all it takes...."

 

[marks]

Eternally Grapeful doesn't believe in your hypergrace. Just saying. He says the person that you say gets hyper, super-duper grace is not born again in the first place. Ask him. He says that person is sinning the sin of an unbeliever, and I agree with that.

Triangulation? What a poor substitute for discussion!

But then, it's not meant that way, is it?

Much love!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

To me this is just more evidence that this is not an honest discussion.

Much love!

Amen

Again, that's why after a time of this, I decide to no longer respond to them..

 

[BloodBought 1953]

I'll get at minimum two distinct meanings of that. There is the OLD Osas, the one Calvin invented, and there is the NEW Osas—the one that somebody invented in the 20th century, the one BB fell head over heels for.

....

And I thought that “ I” invented it...Back to the Drawing Board.....drat !.......I am on Pain Killers because of my broken ankle....maybe I should cut the pill in half...

 

[Eternally Grateful]

IOW:

"If I died when I didn’t believe I would have gone to Heaven because there was One Time That I DID Believe.....that’s all it takes...."

again. Who said this?

I have asked you three times now. If you continue., I will report you

 

[marks]

Don't listen to FB, He continues to prove he has utterly no clue what EG believed in.

Agreed!

Much love!

 

[kcnalp]

Well you all teach salvation by works,

Own up to what you teach. Don't blame me.

If you don't have Christian works you're not a Christian! James said so 3 times.

James 2:17 (NKJV)
17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is DEAD.

 

[marks]

lol. he is supposed to be quoting you from what I understand. Unlike him, I am not afraid to admit I may be wrong though

I think its more about feelings of power and control with some people.

Much love!

 

[kcnalp]

I dont attack you. I show your lies

You called me a liar without any quotes for proof.

And you cant attack osas if you have absolutely no understand what it teaches. Which you prove every time you post.

"If I died when I didn’t believe I would have gone to Heaven because there was One Time That I DID Believe.....that’s all it takes...."

 

[Eternally Grateful]

If you don't have Christian works you're not a Christian! James said so 3 times.

James 2:17 (NKJV)
17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is DEAD.

I agree

and you NEVER WERE A CHRISTIAN. Because your faith was dead

No one has EVER been saved because they just believed with no (dead) faith. Thats WHY their was no works. because they were never born again and created new.

But they were not saved by those works. they did those works BECAUSE they were saved

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You called me a liar without any quotes for proof.

"If I died when I didn’t believe I would have gone to Heaven because there was One Time That I DID Believe.....that’s all it takes...."

Once again dude. Quote that actual post. Or I will report you

I proved you were a liar twice today when you claimed I said people who deny christ will still get to heaven.

So you can sin. You can deny Jesus and still be saved. How convenient and flexible! Until Judgment Day!

there is proof you lied about me. I never stated this once. In fact as I have said time and time again. These people were never saved. But you never hear a word I say so you can not understand what a liar you are

 

[Ferris Bueller]

you NEVER WERE A CHRISTIAN. Because your faith was dead

No one has EVER been saved because they just believed with no (dead) faith. Thats WHY their was no works. because they were never born again and created new.

Are you listening thar, BB? Lol.

He says the 'believer' living in sin, who you say has your super-duper hyper grace keeping him saved, was never saved to begin with. He is Osas type 1. You are Osas type 2 (type 3 to be released soon, lol). You say he was saved and continues to be saved despite him being in the sin of an unbeliever. You two are on two different Osas planets and you don't even realize it, lol.

 

[kcnalp]

Nope.

Your the one picking and chosing your sin

And you called me a liar? Quote me.

whoever denies christ has never been saved. Why do you continue to ask what I already told you to continue to bear false witness? Should I report you for lying?

You just called me a liar again.

and whoever blasphemes the spirit has never been saved.

Prove it.

Whoever has been saved have received the HS word and agreed with him. not denied him.

Why do you keep avoiding this Scripture like plague?

Hebrews 6:4-8 (NKJV)
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit (Christians), 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame. 7 For the earth which drinks in the rain that often comes upon it, and bears herbs useful for those by whom it is cultivated, receives blessing from God; 8 but if it bears thorns and briars, it is rejected and near to being cursed, whose end is to be burned.

so back off before you lie about me again.

You're calling me a liar again?[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

 

[kcnalp]

To take what one person says, and apply it accross the board as though all say it, that would be the broad brush fallacy, overgeneralization.

And even so, these aren't the same statements. That God remains faithful when we do not, that is not the same thing as saying we are allowed to sin all we want, no consequence.

Much love!

Not if OSASers are dead silent about it! To be silent is to condone it!

 

[kcnalp]

can you quote this post?

I just did. lol

 

[Ferris Bueller]

I proved you were a liar twice today when you claimed I said people who deny christ will still get to heaven.

Are you paying attention, BB? Lol.

 

[marks]

Are you listening thar, BB? Lol.

He says the 'believer' living in sin, who you say has your super-duper hyper grace keeping him saved, was never saved to begin with. He is Osas type 1. You are Osas type 2 (type 3 to be released soon, lol). You say he was saved and continues to be saved despite him being in the sin of an unbeliever. You two are on two different Osas planets and you don't even realize it, lol.

Don't you realize that trying to play these two off of each other like this reveals how weak you see your own position? If you took the time to understand what these others say you wouldn't try this.

Don't you realize, they are in agreement on soteriology?

You are parsing degree thinking you are defining sides.

Much love!

 

[kcnalp]

Sez you.....

And that's why OSASers here have been almost totally silent because they know it's a license to sin!