Yahavah's name, God's name. Is it important? Did God deem it important?

[MatthewG]

Answering the question of what is on my heart concerning the name of God, the King James version, omits the use of God's name for LORD.

It's part of the four letters known as YHVH. It's God's name. Most people do not believe God desires his name to be known.

If God is speaking here, it's important to listen to his words to Moses.

"But I have raised you up for this very purpose, that I might show you my power and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth." - Exodus 9:16

It's kind of common that people tend to be afraid a person is deceived or that they are not a faithful person because they use a weird name that they are unfamiliar with, when someone decides to use the personal name of God in front of people who never use his name at all.

Most claim, or Many might conclude God is speaking of Jesus here, that would not be true in my opinion. Because God's name is YHVH/YHWH - Yahavah/Yahweh.

Jesus speaks (In prayer to his Father I believe here) saying: John 17:26 I made known to them your name, and I will continue to make it known, that the love with which you have loved me may be in them, and I in them.”

There are Bibles that have the name of God not omitted. One bible translation is a current new one I believe in the works, as far as a New Testament, which does use the name Yahavah.

Yeshuans – The Yeshuan Faith Community

yeshuans.faith

See here: For reference - https://yeshuans.faith/wp-content/uploads/Gospel-of-John.pdf (This does have some remarks concerning the trinity but that is not the main reason for sharing - it's because of the name of God which I do find important. May you do too, or do not.



Yhvh: the proper name of the God of Israel
Original Word: יְהוָֹה
Part of Speech: Proper Name
Transliteration: Yhvh
Phonetic Spelling: (yeh-ho-vaw')
Definition: the proper name of the God of Israel

God bless to all people, and @Jack too.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Answering the question of what is on my heart concerning the name of God, the King James version, omits the use of God's name for LORD.


There are Bibles that have the name of God not omitted. One bible translation is a current new one I believe in the works, as far as a New Testament, which does use the name Yahavah.

Yeshuans – The Yeshuan Faith Community

yeshuans.faith

See here: For reference - https://yeshuans.faith/wp-content/uploads/Gospel-of-John.pdf (This does have some remarks concerning the trinity but that is not the main reason for sharing - it's because of the name of God which I do find important. May you do too, or do not.

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Yhvh: the proper name of the God of Israel
Original Word: יְהוָֹה
Part of Speech: Proper Name
Transliteration: Yhvh
Phonetic Spelling: (yeh-ho-vaw')
Definition: the proper name of the God of Israel

God bless to all people, and @Jack too.

Well they are guessing as to what teh vowels are for all Hebrew bibles have removed the vowel points.

but what is more important than knowing the name of Yahweh or Jehovah or whatever is this:

5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Verse 9 is the operative verse! The name Jesus is above the name Jehovah.

 

[MatthewG]

Well they are guessing as to what teh vowels are for all Hebrew bibles have removed the vowel points.

but what is more important than knowing the name of Yahweh or Jehovah or whatever is this:

5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Verse 9 is the operative verse! The name Jesus is above the name Jehovah.

Jesus, name is above all other names. However Jesus used His Fathers name. Now how important that is to you in your daily relationship with Yahweh, that is up to you. And the Father desired his name to be known, and Jesus made his Father name know. Even though Jesus name is above all other name, his name is above all other names in order of salvation cause His name is what’s allows people to become Children of God, Delivered from darkness (by God) to light of the Sons Kingdom.

Therefore there is no issue with the scripture you shared… however the dismissals of the use of the name is subjective to you and your perspective, @Ronald Nolette

 

[MatthewG]

Jesus name is not Jesus though, it’s Yeshua, if we were be technically- meaning that believing in Jesus- is not the name above all name. It’s funny how those things quirk out, @Ronald Nolette

 

[SavedInHim]

I do believe it would be better if the Old Testament used YHVH because that's what the Hebrew says. But I'm not a stickler about it as far as the New Testament goes. The NT authors used Kyrios (Lord) or Theos (God) in the Greek. If it was vitally important that the name YHVH always be used I think the Holy Spirit would have inspired them to do so.

 

[MatthewG]

I do believe it would be better if the Old Testament used YHVH because that's what the Hebrew says. But I'm not a stickler about it as far as the New Testament goes. The NT authors used Kyrios (Lord) or Theos (God) in the Greek. If it was vitally important that the name YHVH always be used I think the Holy Spirit would have inspired them to do so.

Was it vitally important for man to hide Gods name to begin with? God desired his name to be made known, according to himself speaking with Moses. If it’s important or not to your daily relationship, I don’t know.

I’m on your side of the fence when it concerns (the matters of how much one knows) same to @Ronald Nolette, @SavedInHim. A person can know Jesus that’s fine, but doesn’t the Son lead us to the Father? And the closer we get to him and to truth the more free we are in spirit and liberty? If of course that is what a person seeks after? The Father? Aren’t they rewarded?

“And it is impossible to please God without faith. Anyone who wants to come to him must believe that God exists and that he rewards those who sincerely seek him.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11‬:‭6‬ ‭NLT‬‬

Yahavah.

“And it is impossible to please YHVH without faith. Anyone who wants to come to him must believe that YHVH exists and that he rewards those who sincerely seek him.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11‬:‭6‬ ‭

 

[MatthewG]

Do you think that this a study which ignored in teachings at Sunday school be it for children or the adult sections of teaching?

 

[Johann]

Jesus name is not Jesus though, it’s Yeshua, if we were be technically- meaning that believing in Jesus- is not the name above all name. It’s funny how those things quirk out, @Ronald Nolette

Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name" (Philippians 2:9, ESV).

Php 2:10 that in the name of Jesus every knee may bow—of heavenlies, and earthlies, and what are under the earth—
Php 2:11 and every tongue may confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Php 2:9 Therefore, also Hashem exalted [YESHAYAH 52:13; 53:12; DANIEL 9:26; 7:14; Ac 2:33; MJ 1:3] Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach, and gave to him haShem [Ep 1:21; MJ 1:4] above every name,
Php 2:10 That at haShem of Yehoshua, KOL BERECH (every knee YESHAYAH 45:23) will bow, of beings b'Shomayim and ba'Aretz and mitachat laAretz (in the world below),

1. God highly exalted Him (Php. 2:9; Eph. 1:21).

2. God gave Him a name above all (Php. 2:9).

3. At the mere mention of His name, every knee must bow (Php. 2:10).

4. Everything in heaven must bow (Php. 2:10).

5. Everything in earth must bow (Php. 2:10).

6. Everything under the earth must bow (Php. 2:10).

7. Every tongue confess His Lordship to the glory of God the Father (Php. 2:11).

Don't know what is happening to you but right here is the Scriptures.

 

[MatthewG]

Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name" (Philippians 2:9, ESV).

Php 2:10 that in the name of Jesus every knee may bow—of heavenlies, and earthlies, and what are under the earth—
Php 2:11 and every tongue may confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Php 2:9 Therefore, also Hashem exalted [YESHAYAH 52:13; 53:12; DANIEL 9:26; 7:14; Ac 2:33; MJ 1:3] Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach, and gave to him haShem [Ep 1:21; MJ 1:4] above every name,
Php 2:10 That at haShem of Yehoshua, KOL BERECH (every knee YESHAYAH 45:23) will bow, of beings b'Shomayim and ba'Aretz and mitachat laAretz (in the world below),

1. God highly exalted Him (Php. 2:9; Eph. 1:21).

2. God gave Him a name above all (Php. 2:9).

3. At the mere mention of His name, every knee must bow (Php. 2:10).

4. Everything in heaven must bow (Php. 2:10).

5. Everything in earth must bow (Php. 2:10).

6. Everything under the earth must bow (Php. 2:10).

7. Every tongue confess His Lordship to the glory of God the Father (Php. 2:11).

Don't know what is happening to you but right here is the Scriptures.

Johann, did you miss the part where I have explained how I view this scripture you shared?

Jesus, name is above all other names. However Jesus used His Fathers name. Now how important that is to you in your daily relationship with Yahweh, that is up to you. And the Father desired his name to be known, and Jesus made his Father name know. Even though Jesus name is above all other name, his name is above all other names in order of salvation cause His name is what’s allows people to become Children of God, Delivered from darkness (by God) to light of the Sons Kingdom.

Therefore there is no issue with the scripture you shared… however the dismissals of the use of the name is subjective to you and your perspective, @Ronald Nolette

Most people only like to share half of the picture rather than get the whole. You often share many ministers and commentators, it’s not any different than mine.

People are still continuing to dismiss the usage of Gods name, which Jesus made known…

If Jesus is important and our Lord, and King, then, why aren’t we following his directives in worshiping the Father in spirit and in truth?

 

[Johann]

Johann, did you miss the part where I have explained how I view this scripture you shared?



Most people only like to share half of the picture rather than get the whole. You often share many ministers and commentators, it’s not any different than mine.

People are still continuing to dismiss the usage of Gods name, which Jesus made known…

If Jesus is important and our Lord, and King, then, why aren’t we following his directives in worshiping the Father in spirit and in truth?

It's true that Jesus' name is above all other names, as Philippians 2:9 says: "Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name." This emphasizes the supreme authority given to Jesus.

However, the part about Jesus using His Father's name could be misleading.

In the Gospels, Jesus often spoke about His Father and came in His Father's name, but He didn’t use the Father’s name as His own. Instead, He revealed the Father to us and acted in full unity with Him.

For example, in John 17:6, Jesus says, "I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave me out of the world." Here, "name" refers more to God's character and authority, which Jesus revealed through His life and works.

So, it might be clearer to say: "Jesus' name is above all other names, as He fully revealed the Father's character and authority in everything He did."

All worship to Jesus AND the Father-this is where you and I differ.
My Bible says Jesus and to the Father I pray in the character/authority of Jesus.

 

[MatthewG]

It's true that Jesus' name is above all other names, as Philippians 2:9 says: "Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name." This emphasizes the supreme authority given to Jesus.

However, the part about Jesus using His Father's name could be misleading.

In the Gospels, Jesus often spoke about His Father and came in His Father's name, but He didn’t use the Father’s name as His own. Instead, He revealed the Father to us and acted in full unity with Him.

For example, in John 17:6, Jesus says, "I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave me out of the world." Here, "name" refers more to God's character and authority, which Jesus revealed through His life and works.

So, it might be clearer to say: "Jesus' name is above all other names, as He fully revealed the Father's character and authority in everything He did."

All worship to Jesus AND the Father-this is where you and I differ.
My Bible says Jesus and to the Father I pray in the character/authority of Jesus.

That’s okay if you disagree with me. I believe that the Father is to be honored. And to be worshipped. Thank you for explaining your reasonings, that doesn’t mean that we also dishonor the Son. I hold him in high regard as my Lord and my Savior, and my assumption is you do too friend.

Jesus stated that those who seek to worship will worship the Father in Spirit and in truth, and I believe in sharing with you what I believe in my heart is truth.

 

[keithr]

Verse 9 is the operative verse! The name Jesus is above the name Jehovah.

Jesus' name (Yeshua) is not above our heavenly Father's name (Yahavah). 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 (WEB):

(27) For, “He put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when he says, “All things are put in subjection”, it is evident that he is excepted who subjected all things to him.​

(28) When all things have been subjected to him, then the Son will also himself be subjected to him who subjected all things to him, that God may be all in all.​

Jesu said, John 14:28 (WEB):

(28) You heard how I told you, ‘I go away, and I come to you.’ If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I said ‘I am going to my Father;’ for the Father is greater than I.​

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Jesus' name (Yeshua) is not above our heavenly Father's name (Yahavah). 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 (WEB):

(27) For, “He put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when he says, “All things are put in subjection”, it is evident that he is excepted who subjected all things to him.​

(28) When all things have been subjected to him, then the Son will also himself be subjected to him who subjected all things to him, that God may be all in all.​

Jesu said, John 14:28 (WEB):

(28) You heard how I told you, ‘I go away, and I come to you.’ If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I said ‘I am going to my Father;’ for the Father is greater than I.​

We are not talking order in the Trinity, but what name is the highest name in teh universe!

Philippians 2:6-10

King James Version

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6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

As declared by God the Father, the name Jesus is greater than the name YHWH.

 

[Johann]

Jesus' name (Yeshua) is not above our heavenly Father's name (Yahavah). 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 (WEB):

(27) For, “He put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when he says, “All things are put in subjection”, it is evident that he is excepted who subjected all things to him.​

(28) When all things have been subjected to him, then the Son will also himself be subjected to him who subjected all things to him, that God may be all in all.​

Jesu said, John 14:28 (WEB):

(28) You heard how I told you, ‘I go away, and I come to you.’ If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I said ‘I am going to my Father;’ for the Father is greater than I.​

No offense--put the WEB aside and use any other translation of your choice.

 

[MatthewG]

I love, that Paul writing to the Philippians about how Jesus name is the above all names is in accountancy of how one is born again… how they are adopted into his kingdom… the kingdom of the Son.

Jesus spoke of his Fathers name and made it know. If that’s not important to you, that’s fine, but to those who are seekers, and seek out Yahavah in spirit in truth, I hope this helps you get closer to him…

May Yahavah the God of Israel whom sent the WORD, bless you in his Holy Spirit, in Yeshuas name always!

 

[MatthewG]

I love, that Paul writing to the Philippians about how Jesus name is the above all names is in accountancy of how one is born again… how they are adopted into his kingdom… the kingdom of the Son.

Jesus spoke of his Fathers name and made it know. If that’s not important to you, that’s fine, but to those who are seekers, and seek out Yahavah in spirit in truth, I hope this helps you get closer to him…

May Yahavah the God of Israel whom sent the WORD, bless you in his Holy Spirit, in Yeshuas name always!

People can quote the Bible all day but if you don’t have the spirit or know the contents or context it’s gonna be hard to understand. That doesn’t mean that you are a failure either, or that you are not loved by God or see by him as his son or daughter. By the spirit he gives you!

 

[Johann]

I love, that Paul writing to the Philippians about how Jesus name is the above all names is in accountancy of how one is born again… how they are adopted into his kingdom… the kingdom of the Son.

Jesus spoke of his Fathers name and made it know. If that’s not important to you, that’s fine, but to those who are seekers, and seek out Yahavah in spirit in truth, I hope this helps you get closer to him…

May Yahavah the God of Israel whom sent the WORD, bless you in his Holy Spirit, in Yeshuas name always!

Equality with the Father:

John 1:1, 14: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us." This passage identifies Jesus (the Word) as both distinct from and fully divine with God.

John 10:30: Jesus says, “I and the Father are one.” This statement is often understood to affirm the unity of essence and purpose between Jesus and the Father.

Philippians 2:6-7: “Who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant.” This indicates that Jesus, while fully divine, voluntarily took on a role of humility.
Distinct Roles and Functions:

John 14:28: Jesus says, “The Father is greater than I.” This reflects a distinction in their roles or function rather than in their essence. It is often interpreted in the context of Jesus' earthly ministry and His submission to the Father's will.

1 Corinthians 15:27-28: As discussed earlier, Paul writes about the Son’s role in subjection to the Father at the end of time. This passage reflects a functional hierarchy while affirming the Son’s ultimate authority over all things.
Divine Authority and Submission:

Matthew 28:18: Jesus says, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.” Indicative His supreme authority while also indicating that this authority is granted by the Father.
Hebrews 1:3: “He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature.” This verse supports the belief that Jesus is fully divine and represents the Father’s nature perfectly.
Jesus' Role in Salvation:

John 3:16: “For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.” This highlights the Father’s love and the Son’s role in providing salvation, showing their cooperative work in the plan of redemption.

J.

 

[MatthewG]

@Johann; I don’t like to have conversations like this. You’re not seeing the importance of it. I believe Jesus is the Word, and the Word when Spoken by Yahavah, the Word created, that Word that had created came forth born flesh, named Jesus…

You continue to avoid, what I’ve made known here. In the very original post. Not sure what the issue is, as I’m talking about Yahavahs name, you’re talking about the equality of them both…

Again, do you see Jesus ever seeing the Father as less than him?

Do you see where Jesus makes the Fathers name known?

Are these important to you, if they are not important to you, the scriptures you can easily cite do not mean anything other than mere words.


Wish people would put personal vendettas to the side and just be open, about the conversation… Jesus made Gods name known… do we as followers of Jesus have the same ability?

 

[MatthewG]

Anyone can make a sound doctrine with any scripture(s) they system magically put together. It doesn’t mean anything… unless it’s the truth and half of the scripture compared to the whole when missing. Doesn’t mean anything. Everything has to be in cooperation by the spirit otherwise it’s meaningless.

 

[Johann]

@Johann; I don’t like to have conversations like this. You’re not seeing the importance of it. I believe Jesus is the Word, and the Word when Spoken by Yahavah, the Word created, that Word that had created came forth born flesh, named Jesus…

Elaborate a bit more on this-where was the Memra when spoken by YHVH?