Woke woman "pastor" mocks Jesus with unbelievable words

[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
This is why people hate Christians.

John does say,

1 John 3:13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.

I think that assumes hate "without reason".
I meant with valid reasons.

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[Lizbeth]

What if little Suzie is not interested in playing with dolls, or wearing dresses?
Preferring to climb trees and play baseball with the boys?

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Oh come on now. There is a range of what is within normal parameters. There's a difference between simply engaging in activities as opposed to engaging in activities as a way of identifying and role playing as the opposite gender. If there are any parents left out there with common sense they can go by their intuition and instincts and comfort level with regard to what is going on with their children. There's a difference between little Suzie climbing a tree and little Suzie thinking she is a Sammy climbing a tree. Or a little Johnny pretending to be a master chef with his sister's Easy Bake Oven set as opposed to him pretending to a be a mommy.

These days there are some parents who see their little Suzie climbing a tree or playing sports and they will take pride in their self-righteous "progressiveness" and start "affirming" and encouraging her identity as a boy, and the poor child is apt to start believing her nutty parents.

As God already knows, people are so very much like sheep, without God and His word (the true Shepherd) they start flocking and following one another in whatever the latest "trends" are and unfortunately mistake that for virtue. I know because I once was as lost as they are and doing the exact same thing....looking to "society" (the world) to guide and show me how to live and behave.

 

[St. SteVen]

Oh come on now. There is a range of what is within normal parameters.

Agree.
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about actual gender dysphoria.
The realization that one is living in a body of the wrong gender.

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[Lizbeth]

Agree.
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about actual gender dysphoria.
The realization that one is living in a body of the wrong gender.

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Do you hear what you are saying?...."the realization" they are living in the wrong body? Um, no, their body and gender is right, but it's their "realization" that is wrong and needs correcting and orienting to the truth. Real Christians believe God (because He knows better than us) and affirm the truth, not the lie. We can try to help and do this with understanding and kindness of course, as appropriate. We don't know the cause, the child might have a demon, or it might just be proceeding from the general rebelliousness of man, or both. Whatever the case, pray for and guide the child in the truth and right way.

 

[Debp]

I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about actual gender dysphoria.
The realization that one is living in a body of the wrong gender.

Please watch this video... it's not too long.

 

[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about actual gender dysphoria.
The realization that one is living in a body of the wrong gender.

Do you hear what you are saying?...."the realization" they are living in the wrong body? Um, no, their body and gender is right, but it's their "realization" that is wrong and needs correcting and orienting to the truth. Real Christians believe God (because He knows better than us) and affirm the truth, not the lie. We can try to help and do this with understanding and kindness of course, as appropriate. We don't know the cause, the child might have a demon, or it might just be proceeding from the general rebelliousness of man, or both. Whatever the case, pray for and guide the child in the truth and right way.

Yes, "the realization" they are living in the wrong body.
In the same way that they were born with a birth sex, they were also born with the time bomb of gender dysphoria.
Eventually the realization will come to them. And it may be mild, or it may be strong.
And it doesn't help them much to diagnose them as having a demon.

We see a range of estrogen and testosterone levels in people we encounter every day.
Effeminate males and butch females. Both with the associated psychological issues.
Men who feel that they will never measure up to the standard of maleness.
And women who don't see much hope in ever attracting a man.

I have heard testimonies of young Christian women realizing in their teens that they have same-sex attraction.
In the past I was helping a church group focusing on life-controlling issues. Men confided that their
same-sex attraction issues never went away. Obviously, acting on a same-sex attraction is sin.
But we need to understand that these things are real.

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[St. SteVen]

Please watch this video... it's not too long.

I have seen that video before. Very tragic what happened to her. And I agree that this needs to stop.

I hope you don't think that I am promoting this sort of thing, I am not.
On the other hand, I think the church needs to be less dismissive of the real issues involved in some cases.

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[St. SteVen]

Yes, "the realization" they are living in the wrong body.

A person with gender dysphoria feels like they have the opposite gender brain in their body.

And then there is the aforementioned extreme range of hormones effecting even those without gender dysphoria.

We need to separate the psychological disorders from the acting on same-sex attraction, which is sin.

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[Lizbeth]

St. SteVen said:
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about actual gender dysphoria.
The realization that one is living in a body of the wrong gender.

Yes, "the realization" they are living in the wrong body.
In the same way that they were born with a birth sex, they were also born with the time bomb of gender dysphoria.
Eventually the realization will come to them. And it may be mild, or it may be strong.
And it doesn't help them much to diagnose them as having a demon.

We see a range of estrogen and testosterone levels in people we encounter every day.
Effeminate males and butch females. Both with the associated psychological issues.
Men who feel that they will never measure up to the standard of maleness.
And women who don't see much hope in ever attracting a man.

I have heard testimonies of young Christian women realizing in their teens that they have same-sex attraction.
In the past I was helping a church group focusing on life-controlling issues. Men confided that their
same-sex attraction issues never went away. Obviously, acting on a same-sex attraction is sin.
But we need to understand that these things are real.

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Yes indeed these things are real. Feelings are real, lies are real. And the devil is real. It's not an insult to say someone has a demon. Demons are as ubiquitous as bacteria. They are around and only God can protect us or deliver us from them. And human sin/rebellion is real too. Young children may be tempted to cope with adverse circumstances like abuse or rejection, lack of love etc or just out of sheer rebellion and desire for power, by making spiritual pacts/covenants with the devil, when really all along God was there for us to turn to or submit to, but we rebelled and believed the devil when he whispered a lie and suggestion into our mind/soul.....we all do exactly like the pattern of Eve at the Tree and fall, the first time usually when very young. The Lord showed me and brought to my memory twice in my life when I made an inner vow or pact like that....once very early childhood and later school age. And I've heard lots of similar testimonies. One just recently by someone I know who I haven't even spoken to about the pacts I made as a child. We think we are solving a problem but really it is a snare...the snare of the fowler. This is why rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft...because it involves the devil and spiritual realm. See we don't know these things, but God does and is able to show us. We need to believe Him, He knows way more than we do and He is always right.

All of us have sinned and erred from the truth in some fashion or other and fell from the glory. How do we combat the devil and sin? Do you know or believe the bible at all? Are you saying all these sexual and gender dysphoria issues are only a matter of science and physical/chemical things? Where does God come into these things for you? Does He at all? Do you seek Him for His wisdom for these things? Do you know that the spiritual realm affects the physical realm? Are you a Christian....born of the Spirit? Seems to me you are going by what "seemeth right" to your carnal mind, rather than by God's truth and wisdom.

 

[Verily]

St. SteVen said:
This is why people hate Christians.

I think that assumes hate "without reason".
I meant with valid reasons.

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Then tells us what reason of hate are you trying to justify aganst me (I am assuming) since you dropped that off behind my post?

What cause of hate towards me is justifiable versus a hate "without reason"?

 

[St. SteVen]

Then tells us what reason of hate are you trying to justify aganst me (I am assuming) since you dropped that off behind my post?

What cause of hate towards me is justifiable versus a hate "without reason"?

I wasn't singling you out. It was for all readers and posters.

Families and individuals who are struggling with gender dysphoria issues will find no help or comfort here.
They will need to look elsewhere.

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[Taken]

They are actually going to cast a queer woman ( Cynthia Erivo) to play Jesus Christ in Jesus Christ super star also

They…take something holy, sacred and twist it into a Lie.

God established Gender. A babe is born, their gender recognized and recorded….
Not “assigned”…a lie.

God established the Rainbow. A reminder of Gods gracious Covenant with manKIND.
Not “a symbol” for homosexuals to use to flaunt their proudness in defying God…a lie.

God established an Adjoining relationship between one male and one female called a marriage…Not a marriage relationship “adjoining” males and males and females and females…a lie.

They who participate in such lies…AND they who tolerate and support such lies…Share in the Same negative Consequences.

Roms 1:
[30] Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
[31] Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
[32] Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Thank God, a Trump with Standing IN Christ has Sounded…Governance According to Gods WAY…Recognizing only Two Genders as God Established!

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

I wasn't singling you out. It was for all readers and posters.

Families and individuals who are struggling with gender dysphoria issues will find no help or comfort here.
They will need to look elsewhere.

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If you can name it… it must be Real and Big Pharma Treatable.

“Gender dysphoria” began with “indoctrination”… first to target, “young ignorant impressionable minds”.

This platform is for Adults, not little children.

 

[St. SteVen]

“Gender dysphoria” began with “indoctrination”… first to target, “young ignorant impressionable minds”.

Hogwash!

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[Verily]

I wasn't singling you out. It was for all readers and posters.

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You said, THIS IS WHY people hate us/christians under my post is why I ask. And even if I believed that you might not be directing this at me (by avoiding quoting me) but dropping it under my post, and believed you meant it for all here you apparently mean "justifiably so". Otherwise why would you have come back at John's words I posted who wrote, " marvel not that the world hate you"? You must be implying by doing this that there is a justifiable reason for people to hate us (Christians) in this thread according to the responses you are reading which I believe disagree with.

So you seem to feel there is a just cause for the world to hate "us" in this discussion. And yet most of us are not the ones who are alligning ourselves with the two child abusing phychiatrists that fathered the gender identify theory. Which is why I am asking, what exactly is meant by "this is why"? Since you also highlighted without cause /or reason versus with cause /or reason? There must be a cause/ reason you are justifying in your mind concerning these things.

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[Taken]

Hogwash!

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You are still traveling the path…and still not ready for the Truth.

For those who “have it”…

There is only one CURE for the “Umpteen named” medical Mind/Mental“disorders”, which “are conflicts” between “a mans Carnal Mind and the mans spirit in his Heart”.

A new heart, a new Truth, Gods Truth Jesus, a new spirit, via The Power of God (Christ), and a Mind “like Christ”…that the Hearts new spirit supersedes the Carnal Mind!

 

[St. SteVen]

You said, THIS IS WHY people hate us/christians under my post is why I ask. And even if I believed that you might not be directing this at me (by avoiding quoting me) but dropping it under my post, and believed you meant it for all here...

That's correct. I don't expect you to understand.

Gandhi said it best.
I like your Christ, but I don't like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.

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[St. SteVen]

So you seem to feel there is a just cause for the world to hate "us" in this discussion. And yet most of us are not the ones who are alligning ourselves with the two child abusing phychiatrists that fathered the gender identify theory.

If you are claiming that I am aligning myself with "the two child abusing phychiatrists that fathered the gender identify theory."
then that pretty well proves my point. (why people hate Christians) It's this sort of behavior.

Obviously, gender dysphoria was a condition they discovered (observed) and named. They didn't create the condition.
Gender dysphoria has been around as long as the hormonal imbalances that cause it. People are born with it.

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[St. SteVen]

Otherwise why would you have come back at John's words I posted who wrote, " marvel not that the world hate you"?

Come back at John's words? You are a real piece of work.

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[Verily]

Come back at John's words? You are a real piece of work.

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You said, to 1 John 3:13 the following

I think that assumes hate "without reason".
I meant with valid reasons.