Will the Jews build a Third Temple?

[David in NJ]

Why do you write (dumb) after you write Christians?

When a Christian rejects God's words it is a 'dumb' thing to do, ESPECIALLY, in the LIGHT of the Gospel.

Joining in with unbelieving Jews who will soon embrace the 'Antichrist' = Major DUMB

Just like our present Edumacation system designed to 'dumb' down everyone so that they 'obey' without critical evaluation and comparison and testing.

Follow the instructions of Messiah: John 7:17
"If anyone desires to do His will, he will know concerning the teaching, whether it is from God, or I speak from Myself."

SMART = Then the brethren immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea. When they arrived, they went into the synagogue of the Jews. These were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so.

 

[BlessedPeace]

When a Christian rejects God's words it is a 'dumb' thing to do, ESPECIALLY, in the LIGHT of the Gospel.

Joining in with unbelieving Jews who will soon embrace the 'Antichrist' = Major DUMB

Just like our present Edumacation system designed to 'dumb' down everyone so that they 'obey' without critical evaluation and comparison and testing.

Follow the instructions of Messiah: John 7:17
"If anyone desires to do His will, he will know concerning the teaching, whether it is from God, or I speak from Myself."

SMART = Then the brethren immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea. When they arrived, they went into the synagogue of the Jews. These were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so.

No one can come to Christ unless His Holy Spirit enters.
Until then the things of God are deemed foolishness by them And we see that every day.

Jesus told His Disciples His message was understood by them because they were meant to understand.

While His parables meant nothing to others who heard them because it was not given them to understand and be redeemed.

That isn't John Calvin.

That's Yeshua bin Joseph.
Joshua son of Joseph. Emmanuel,our Savior and the Christ, teaching that.
Thousands of years before Luther or John were born.

 

[Peterlag]

i guess you cannot understand my post nor the Holy Scriptures in it's COMPLETENESS...........

KEY to Understanding is Knowing the Truth.

“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.

I do not receive honor from men. But I know you, that you do not have the love of God in you. I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive. How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only God? Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you—Moses, in whom you trust. For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”

For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.

For circumcision is indeed profitable if you keep the law; but if you are a breaker of the law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision. Therefore, if an uncircumcised man keeps the righteous requirements of the law, will not his uncircumcision be counted as circumcision? And will not the physically uncircumcised, if he fulfills the law, judge you who, even with your written code and circumcision, are a transgressor of the law? For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.

"till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled" was written to Israel, and not to the Christian. Again, I do not know why we have so many Christians who believe the entire Bible is written directly to them, the Church of God. There is nothing in the Bible to indicate such thinking, and I would like to add nothing could be further from the truth. It's true the Word of God was written for everyone for all time, and it's for our learning because it contains what everyone should know. That does not mean every part of it is addressed to everyone in this time, because the subject matter was written either to the Jews, to the Gentiles, or to the Church of God (1 Corinthians 10:32).

What is written directly to the Jews, belongs to and is for the Jews. What is written directly to the Gentiles, belongs to and is for the Gentiles. What is written directly to the Church of God, belongs to and is for the Church of God. What does God mean when He tells us that the visions shown to Isaiah was concerning Judah and Jerusalem? It was not addressed to us or written concerning us, but it was addressed to and concerning Judah and Jerusalem. It would be dishonest for the Church of God to interpret to the Church of God what God said concerns Israel.

 

[Keraz]

When a Christian rejects God's words it is a 'dumb' thing to do, ESPECIALLY, in the LIGHT of the Gospel.

It is not dumb to build a Church building, or the new Temple in Jerusalem. Paul states it will be a Temple dedicated to God. 2 Thess 2:4

Joining in with unbelieving Jews who will soon embrace the 'Antichrist' = Major DUMB

You have a very confused and wrong idea about the Jews and who will worship the 'beast'.
The apostate Jews will be gone and only the ungodly peoples, plus those who are not true Christians, will worship the 'beast'.

 

[David in NJ]

No one can come to Christ unless His Holy Spirit enters.
Until then the things of God are deemed foolishness by them And we see that every day.

Jesus told His Disciples His message was understood by them because they were meant to understand.

While His parables meant nothing to others who heard them because it was not given them to understand and be redeemed.

That isn't John Calvin.

That's Yeshua bin Joseph.
Joshua son of Joseph. Emmanuel,our Savior and the Christ, teaching that.
Thousands of years before Luther or John were born.

All this i know to be true.

Therefore it does not change the fact of the matter that any Christian who believes men's words over Yeshua's words of "It is written",
is going down the 'dumb down road'.

 

[David in NJ]

It is not dumb to build a Church building, or the new Temple in Jerusalem. Paul states it will be a Temple dedicated to God. 2 Thess 2:4

You have a very confused and wrong idea about the Jews and who will worship the 'beast'.
The apostate Jews will be gone and only the ungodly peoples, plus those who are not true Christians, will worship the 'beast'.

Where in NT scripture does it state we should call buildings a 'church'?

Where in NT scripture does the LORD or the Apostles command or encourage a rebuilding of the Temple which God destroyed?

You have lost SIGHT of the very words and commandments of LORD Yeshua HaMoshiach.

 

[David in NJ]

"till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled" was written to Israel, and not to the Christian. Again, I do not know why we have so many Christians who believe the entire Bible is written directly to them, the Church of God. There is nothing in the Bible to indicate such thinking, and I would like to add nothing could be further from the truth. It's true the Word of God was written for everyone for all time, and it's for our learning because it contains what everyone should know. That does not mean every part of it is addressed to everyone in this time, because the subject matter was written either to the Jews, to the Gentiles, or to the Church of God (1 Corinthians 10:32).

What is written directly to the Jews, belongs to and is for the Jews. What is written directly to the Gentiles, belongs to and is for the Gentiles. What is written directly to the Church of God, belongs to and is for the Church of God. What does God mean when He tells us that the visions shown to Isaiah was concerning Judah and Jerusalem? It was not addressed to us or written concerning us, but it was addressed to and concerning Judah and Jerusalem. It would be dishonest for the Church of God to interpret to the Church of God what God said concerns Israel.

You, and many modern day 'christians' have a false belief system that is contrary to the teachings of LORD Yeshua and His Holy Apostles.

 

[BlessedPeace]

All this i know to be true.

Therefore it does not change the fact of the matter that any Christian who believes men's words over Yeshua's words of "It is written",
is going down the 'dumb down road'.

Those aren't dumb. They're just not aware.

 

[Keraz]

Where in NT scripture does it state we should call buildings a 'church'?

Definition of a place where Christians gather to worship; is a church.
A Church is the group who use the church, cathedral, or Temple.

Where in NT scripture does the LORD or the Apostles command or encourage a rebuilding of the Temple which God destroyed?

Jesus Prophesied that Daniel 9:27 - the abomination of desolation, would stand in the Holy Place. Not happened yet, as the context of Daniel and Matthew 24:15, precludes its fulfilment in 70 AD.
Also; Pauls statement in 2 Thess 2:4 is undeniable; there has to be a new Temple in Jerusalem for the 'beast' to sit in.

Ezekiel 40 to 46 fully describes this end time Temple and its functions.
Note too: that after the Millennium there will be no temple in Eternity. Which proves there must be a Temple before then, the one Jesus will Return to and rule from. Zechariah 14:16-21

You have lost SIGHT of the very words and commandments of LORD Yeshua HaMoshiach.

The fact of your use of Hebrew for the Name of Jesus, shows the rabbit hole you are stuck in.

 

[BlessedPeace]

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The fact of your use of Hebrew for the Name of Jesus, shows the rabbit hole you are stuck in.

Since Yeshua was a Jew,a Hebrew name was not a rabbit hole.

If Yeshua were walking on the beach of the Sea of Galilee and someone called out, "Jesus! Jesus!", he'd not react.

Because Jesus was not his name.

 

[Peterlag]

Definition of a place where Christians gather to worship; is a church.
A Church is the group who use the church, cathedral, or Temple.

Jesus Prophesied that Daniel 9:27 - the abomination of desolation, would stand in the Holy Place. Not happened yet, as the context of Daniel and Matthew 24:15, precludes its fulfilment in 70 AD.
Also; Pauls statement in 2 Thess 2:4 is undeniable; there has to be a new Temple in Jerusalem for the 'beast' to sit in.

Ezekiel 40 to 46 fully describes this end time Temple and its functions.
Note too: that after the Millennium there will be no temple in Eternity. Which proves there must be a Temple before then, the one Jesus will Return to and rule from. Zechariah 14:16-21

The fact of your use of Hebrew for the Name of Jesus, shows the rabbit hole you are stuck in.

The word “church” comes from the Greek word “ecclesia” and it means assembly, or a congregation of called out ones, such as Israel who was an “ecclesia” or an assembly of people called out from among the rest of the world. The word is also used of a smaller company of Israelites, called out from among an assembly of Israel, which was the tribal council of Simeen and Levi. Later in the same time period we find it used for another kind of an assembly, referring to those who were called-out from all of Israel as worshippers assembling themselves together before the Temple. In the time period covered by the gospels, the called out ones are “the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

The word “church” in the epistles acquires a meaning it never had before, which started when the disciples were separated away from the unbelief of Israel, and that caused the word “ecclesia” to acquire a more restricted meaning because it was then used for “The Church of God.” The Church of God is an assembly composed of not only the Jews, but also anyone able to be born into the family of God and become a member of the body of Christ. This special usage of the word “ecclesia” deals with an assembling of people, who were not known until they were first revealed to the apostle Paul as part of the secret that was “hid in God” and was “kept secret since the world began.”

 

[David in NJ]

Those aren't dumb. They're just not aware.

Good Morning,
i am referring to the ones who are aware.

They are aware of the scriptures, but they have been dumbed down by religion and false prophets such as 'pre-trib rapture'.

EXAMPLE: Luke 24:25
Then Yeshua said to them, “O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken!

 

[David in NJ]

Definition of a place where Christians gather to worship; is a church.
A Church is the group who use the church, cathedral, or Temple.

Jesus Prophesied that Daniel 9:27 - the abomination of desolation, would stand in the Holy Place. Not happened yet, as the context of Daniel and Matthew 24:15, precludes its fulfilment in 70 AD.
Also; Pauls statement in 2 Thess 2:4 is undeniable; there has to be a new Temple in Jerusalem for the 'beast' to sit in.

Ezekiel 40 to 46 fully describes this end time Temple and its functions.
Note too: that after the Millennium there will be no temple in Eternity. Which proves there must be a Temple before then, the one Jesus will Return to and rule from. Zechariah 14:16-21

The fact of your use of Hebrew for the Name of Jesus, shows the rabbit hole you are stuck in.

Good Morning

Biblical definition of the "churches" are PEOPLE who have been 'called out of the world' unto Messiah/Salvation.

Never refers to a building made by men's hands.

Please read the Gospel of John and Acts

 

[amigo de christo]

When a Christian rejects God's words it is a 'dumb' thing to do, ESPECIALLY, in the LIGHT of the Gospel.

Joining in with unbelieving Jews who will soon embrace the 'Antichrist' = Major DUMB

Just like our present Edumacation system designed to 'dumb' down everyone so that they 'obey' without critical evaluation and comparison and testing.

Follow the instructions of Messiah: John 7:17
"If anyone desires to do His will, he will know concerning the teaching, whether it is from God, or I speak from Myself."

SMART = Then the brethren immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea. When they arrived, they went into the synagogue of the Jews. These were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so.

those whose hearts had truly been on the giver of the old covenant
would not have rejected the Christ of the new covenant .
Had the jews back in JESUS day , and later in pauls and even today
truly been followers of the GOD of the old covenant
they would not have nor today would REJECT the NEW covenant .
THE GOD of the old covenant IS the GOD of the new covenant .
And the torah itself , the law itself , even abraham four hundred and thirty years before the law
even moses himself , POINTED TO CHRIST JESUS .
OH yes . that be a fact my friend . Something todays one world love religoin HAS DENIED
though for years it has hollered GOD is love , ITS LOVE and its god DENIES THE GOD and HIS LOVE , HIS CHRIST .
this be a serious fact and one that all need to take heed unto .
For the jews of old who led the people and who sat even in the seat of MOSES
often DECIEVED the people . but the sheep never heard them .
The jews of JESUS day , and later of pauls day of even of TODAY
STILL DENY GOD , though they too claimed to follow moses , to be of abraham
to heed torah . THEY do not .
FOR had they believed MOSES , YOU CAN BET YOUR BOTTOM DOLLAR they would have BELIEVED JESUS THE CHRIST
for even moses WROTE OF CHRIST .
IF they truly were and are true children o abraham , THEY WOULD DO THE WORKS OF abraham .
BUT THEY DO NOT the works of abraham .
WHEN GOD SPOKE TO abraham , abraham HEARD IT , BELIEVED IT , AND DONE IT
WHEN JESUS spoke to them , THEY DID NOT HEAR , DID NOT BELIEVE , DID NOT DO .
Now before anyone tries to say but wait
GOD spoke to abraham , it was just JESUS speaking to them .
WHO YA THINK SAID IT , IF JESUS SAID IT . GOD DID . FACT . i am long worn out
with a false love and satans so called love gospel that so many have itching ears to hear
that says , even muslims worship the same GOD we do .
WRONG again . that even atheists or other religoins know God in their own way , WRONG AGAIN .
cause if they knew or loved GOD , WHY DO THEY REJECT JESUS THE CHRIST WHO IS OF GOD .
And why the heck are so many heeding this crap false love .
IF JESUS said it let me leave us with his own words .
HE who BELIEVES ON ME , believes not on me but on HE WHO SENT ME .
HE who sees me sees HE who sent ME .
I speak NOT of myself . WHAT I HEAR from GOD I SPEAK .
SO how come so many try so hard to pump a crack pipe love song unto this world
and WORSE how come so many within christendom itself now buy into that love .
and even worse , WHO YA THINK IT CAME FROM . FROM WITHIN CHRISTENDOM ITSELF .
JESUS told us the NUMBER ONE person to beware .........
IT wasnt wolves from outside , IT WAS WOLVES IN WOOL my dear friend . WOLVES IN WOOL
ministirs of satan that can appear as OUR OWN MINSITRIS , FROM WITHIN . FROM WITHIN DAVID
FROM WITHIN . and tis high time this judge not correct not generation gets that fact PUMPED INTO THEIR HEAD .

 

[amigo de christo]

Good Morning

Biblical definition of the "churches" are PEOPLE who have been 'called out of the world' unto Messiah/Salvation.

Never refers to a building made by men's hands.

Please read the Gospel of John and Acts

lets continue my friend .
How come so many come to a jesus who embraces their sin .
DO GOD EMBRACE AND HONOR ANY and i do mean ANY SIN
DO JESUS embrace sin .
SO why do we have us a rainbow jesus in the house that speakes so often of divesity and inclusivity
and has made a very broad rainbow that now honors certain sins
and the paths of even false dead religoins . last time i checked GOD would do not such thing
and IF GOD WOULD NOT DO IT , what the heck makes one think JESUS WOULD .
Me thinks that what this really is
is another image , another version of what folks in sin who love sin WANT TO BELIEVE IN .
and boy do they love that god and that christ . YOU DO KNOW why
i did not captilzie that god and that christ . cause the only god i know
that would seek to please men , their sin , AINT GOD , but the DEVIL HISELF .
and the only christ i know that would DENY CHRIST , speak of another jesus and another gospel
WOULD BE AN ANTI CHRIST . that be a fact david . and i promise that one cannot save .

 

[amigo de christo]

Good Morning

Biblical definition of the "churches" are PEOPLE who have been 'called out of the world' unto Messiah/Salvation.

Never refers to a building made by men's hands.

Please read the Gospel of John and Acts

this is why i be so often hated david . cause i wont preach another love , another god , another jesus , another gosple
but ONLY EXPOSE IT . and those who i desired only good for , life for , hate me only more for doing so .
but marvel not my friend . marvel not . if folks called JESUS crazy , the devil , how much more
will they call those of HIS own HOUSE . we wont be escaping hate from this world my friend .
We better simply learn to rejoice when persecuted and forgive those who do persecute
but NEVER CONFORM one incy millimeter in their direction .
Cause if the thinks words are harsh and being outcasted is harsh
WELL WE AINT SEEN NOTHING YET david . mark them words . THE TIME has come and is coming
when true lambs will , EVEN IN WESTERN SOCITIES
be rounded up , killed , hated by all men , Hated by even many who professed to be CHRSITAIN .
ITS a fact david and its about to get much worse too .

 

[Marvelloustime]

this is why i be so often hated david . cause i wont preach another love , another god , another jesus , another gosple
but ONLY EXPOSE IT . and those who i desired only good for , life for , hate me only more for doing so .
but marvel not my friend . marvel not . if folks called JESUS crazy , the devil , how much more
will they call those of HIS own HOUSE . we wont be escaping hate from this world my friend .
We better simply learn to rejoice when persecuted and forgive those who do persecute
but NEVER CONFORM one incy millimeter in their direction .
Cause if the thinks words are harsh and being outcasted is harsh
WELL WE AINT SEEN NOTHING YET david . mark them words . THE TIME has come and is coming
when true lambs will , EVEN IN WESTERN SOCITIES
be rounded up , killed , hated by all men , Hated by even many who professed to be CHRSITAIN .
ITS a fact david and its about to get much worse too .

Brother @amigo de christo is spotted!
Praise the Lord.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Good Morning,
i am referring to the ones who are aware.

They are aware of the scriptures, but they have been dumbed down by religion and false prophets such as 'pre-trib rapture'.

EXAMPLE: Luke 24:25
Then Yeshua said to them, “O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken!

I think the scriptures show there to be a catching up of the saints prior to the world going to Hell suffering Tribulation.

And even during the Great Tribulation the condemned can still come to redemption.

 

[David in NJ]

those whose hearts had truly been on the giver of the old covenant
would not have rejected the Christ of the new covenant .
Had the jews back in JESUS day , and later in pauls and even today
truly been followers of the GOD of the old covenant
they would not have nor today would REJECT the NEW covenant .
THE GOD of the old covenant IS the GOD of the new covenant .
And the torah itself , the law itself , even abraham four hundred and thirty years before the law
even moses himself , POINTED TO CHRIST JESUS .
OH yes . that be a fact my friend . Something todays one world love religoin HAS DENIED
though for years it has hollered GOD is love , ITS LOVE and its god DENIES THE GOD and HIS LOVE , HIS CHRIST .
this be a serious fact and one that all need to take heed unto .
For the jews of old who led the people and who sat even in the seat of MOSES
often DECIEVED the people . but the sheep never heard them .
The jews of JESUS day , and later of pauls day of even of TODAY
STILL DENY GOD , though they too claimed to follow moses , to be of abraham
to heed torah . THEY do not .
FOR had they believed MOSES , YOU CAN BET YOUR BOTTOM DOLLAR they would have BELIEVED JESUS THE CHRIST
for even moses WROTE OF CHRIST .
IF they truly were and are true children o abraham , THEY WOULD DO THE WORKS OF abraham .
BUT THEY DO NOT the works of abraham .
WHEN GOD SPOKE TO abraham , abraham HEARD IT , BELIEVED IT , AND DONE IT
WHEN JESUS spoke to them , THEY DID NOT HEAR , DID NOT BELIEVE , DID NOT DO .
Now before anyone tries to say but wait
GOD spoke to abraham , it was just JESUS speaking to them .
WHO YA THINK SAID IT , IF JESUS SAID IT . GOD DID . FACT . i am long worn out
with a false love and satans so called love gospel that so many have itching ears to hear
that says , even muslims worship the same GOD we do .
WRONG again . that even atheists or other religoins know God in their own way , WRONG AGAIN .
cause if they knew or loved GOD , WHY DO THEY REJECT JESUS THE CHRIST WHO IS OF GOD .
And why the heck are so many heeding this crap false love .
IF JESUS said it let me leave us with his own words .
HE who BELIEVES ON ME , believes not on me but on HE WHO SENT ME .
HE who sees me sees HE who sent ME .
I speak NOT of myself . WHAT I HEAR from GOD I SPEAK .
SO how come so many try so hard to pump a crack pipe love song unto this world
and WORSE how come so many within christendom itself now buy into that love .
and even worse , WHO YA THINK IT CAME FROM . FROM WITHIN CHRISTENDOM ITSELF .
JESUS told us the NUMBER ONE person to beware .........
IT wasnt wolves from outside , IT WAS WOLVES IN WOOL my dear friend . WOLVES IN WOOL
ministirs of satan that can appear as OUR OWN MINSITRIS , FROM WITHIN . FROM WITHIN DAVID
FROM WITHIN . and tis high time this judge not correct not generation gets that fact PUMPED INTO THEIR HEAD .

@amigo de christo says:
"THE GOD of the old covenant IS the GOD of the new covenant .
And the torah itself , the law itself , even abraham four hundred and thirty years before the law
even moses himself , POINTED TO CHRIST JESUS .
OH yes . that be a fact my friend . Something todays one world love religoin HAS DENIED"

YES YES YES = That be a FACT and absolute TRUTH and Eternal LIFE

 

[Keraz]

Never refers to a building made by men's hands.

So then, what do I call the building I gather in to worship Jesus?

You seem keen to correct me on an insignificant issue and ignore the fact of a future Temple. Which must be built in order for the Anti-Christ to stop the sacrifices and offerings, Daniel 9:27 and to sit in the holy Place. Matthew 24:15 & 2 Thess 2:4
The Jews will not build it.