why no beast (Antichrist) name nor false prophet name given

[Douggg]

In Greek it can mean "against" or "in place of".

So that you will understand the concept of "the Antichrist", I put together the verses in this post that explains it. Starting with Jesus as the true Christ.

In Luke 1, Gabriel told Mary...

Luke 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

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In Matthew 2, the three wise men said....

Matthew 2:2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

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In Matthew 27, Pilate had a sign placed on the cross above Jesus's head...

Matthew 27:37 And set up over his head his accusation written, THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.

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In Luke 23, a sign was over Jesus head as he was on the cross, written....

Luke 23:38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.

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In John 4, the woman at the well said...

John 4:25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.

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In John 12, the crowd praised Jesus as he rode into Jerusalem on the donkey....

John 12:13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.

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In Matthew 27, the religious leaders mocked Jesus, saying....

Matthew 27:42 He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him.

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In Mark 15, the religious leaders mocked Jesus, saying...

Mark 15:32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.

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So Jesus is the King of Israel, King of the Jews, Christ - the messiah - who came in the name of the Lord. But was rejected by his own people - the Jews.

Now, the prophecy verse of the coming Anti-christ - instead of and against, the rightful King of Israel - Jesus.

John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

The Antichrist will presume himself to be the King of Israel messiah, christ.

In Revelation 6, the rider on the white horse, representing a messianic figure, is given a crown.

That crown will be that of being anointed the King of Israel. The rider on the white horse is the Antichrist.

On my chart, Stage 3, you will notice the reference to John 5:43, the prophecy verse about the Antichrist coming in his own name. It will be the Jews who will for a while think the person is their long awaited King of Israel, King of the Jews, thought-to be-messiah, christ.

Stage 3, being the King of Israel, thought-to-be messiah will end in Stage 4 when he reveals himself to be the man of sin - and not the messiah as the Jews will have initially believed. End of his time as the King of Israel, as the Jews will reject him as continuing as their king.

 

[ewq1938]

So that you will understand the concept of "the Antichrist", I put together the verses in this post that explains it. Starting with Jesus as the true Christ.

In Luke 1, Gabriel told Mary...

Luke 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

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Future tense, not born as a king.

In Matthew 2, the three wise men said....

Matthew 2:2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

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They were wrong.

In Matthew 27, Pilate had a sign placed on the cross above Jesus's head...

Matthew 27:37 And set up over his head his accusation written, THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.

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Intentional mockery.

In Luke 23, a sign was over Jesus head as he was on the cross, written....

Luke 23:38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.

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Intentional mockery.

In John 4, the woman at the well said...

John 4:25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.

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Unrelated.

In John 12, the crowd praised Jesus as he rode into Jerusalem on the donkey....

John 12:13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.

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Wrong again.

In Matthew 27, the religious leaders mocked Jesus, saying....

Matthew 27:42 He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him.

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Intentional mockery.

In Mark 15, the religious leaders mocked Jesus, saying...

Mark 15:32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.

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Intentional mockery.

So Jesus is the King of Israel, King of the Jews, Christ - the messiah - who came in the name of the Lord. But was rejected by his own people - the Jews.

Now, the prophecy verse of the coming Anti-christ - instead of and against, the rightful King of Israel - Jesus.

John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

Th AC did not come and be accepted by those men. Jesus is not addressing a coming of a Messiah but how men did not recognize or respect men that came in the name of God.

The Antichrist will presume himself to be the King of Israel messiah, christ.

In Revelation 6, the rider on the white horse, representing a messianic figure, is given a crown.

King of the whole world, not of one country.

That crown will be that of being anointed the King of Israel. The rider on the white horse is the Antichrist.

On my chart, Stage 3, you will notice the reference to John 5:43, the prophecy verse about the Antichrist coming in his own name.

He does not come in his own name. Even you said, "The Antichrist will presume himself to be the King of Israel messiah, christ. " which is the AC coming in Christ's name, not his own name.

It will be the Jews who will for a while think the person is their long awaited King of Israel, King of the Jews, thought-to be-messiah, christ.

Stage 3, being the King of Israel, thought-to-be messiah will end in Stage 4 when he reveals himself to be the man of sin

He is the man of sin when he claims to be god or christ or anything good because lying is a sin, from a man of sin. There is no changing from one to another as you suggest.

- and not the messiah as the Jews will have initially believed. End of his time as the King of Israel, as the Jews will reject him as continuing as their king.

All unbelievers will accept the AC and there is nothing about any of them waking up and rejecting him.

 

[Douggg]

King of the whole world, not of one country.

What specific verse say the Antichrist will be the King of the whole world ?

I gave you a multitude of verses that Christ is the King of Israel, King of the Jews, who came in the name of the Lord. And the verse of the another that the Jews will accept him as the king instead of Jesus.

Now you give men one verse that the Antichrist will be the King of the whole world.

 

[ryggcochran]

Read The Antichrist by Curtis Cochran. In Rev. it says "the beast breathed life into a statue". An AI robot called "sophia" got Saudi Arabian citizenship inn 2017. As a citizen it has personhood (life breathed in to a statue). The number is next.

 

[Douggg]

They were wrong.

The three wise men were wrong to say of Jesus...?

Matthew 2:2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

 

[ewq1938]

What specific verse say the Antichrist will be the King of the whole world ?

I gave you a multitude of verses that Christ is the King of Israel, King of the Jews. And the verse of the another that the Jews will accept him as the king instead of Jesus.

Now you give men one verse that the Antichrist will be the King of the whole world.

All of Rev 13

 

[ewq1938]

Read The Antichrist by Curtis Cochran. In Rev. it says "the beast breathed life into a statue".

No, it says this

Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

 

[ewq1938]

The three wise men were wrong to say of Jesus...?

Matthew 2:2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

Yes, they were wrong. "My kingdom is not from hence."

 

[Douggg]

Read The Antichrist by Curtis Cochran. In Rev. it says "the beast breathed life into a statue". An AI robot called "sophia" got Saudi Arabian citizenship inn 2017. As a citizen it has personhood (life breathed in to a statue). The number is next.

That paraphrasing is not exactly correct.

From the kjv translation... the false prophet (the second beast) had power to give life to the image (a statue).

Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Actually, it will be a Satan based deception - that Satan indwell the statue image making it appear to come alive and speak.

In Ezekiel 28:16-19, that statue will be turned to ashes exposing Satan for everyone present that day at Jesus's return to see him.

Everyone who worships the statue until then will unknowingly be worshiping Satan.

It is not an AI robot.

 

[Brakelite]

Read The Antichrist by Curtis Cochran. In Rev. it says "the beast breathed life into a statue". An AI robot called "sophia" got Saudi Arabian citizenship inn 2017. As a citizen it has personhood (life breathed in to a statue). The number is next.

Sorry, but that is nonsense.

 

[Douggg]

Yes, they were wrong. "My kingdom is not from hence."

No, the two witnesses were not wrong. In Luke 2, they were told what to do by an angel of the Lord, and there was also a presence of other angels around them.

 

[Brakelite]

Carefully study the following. They are comparisons revealing the true from the counterfeit.

Dragon/Satan.
His place in heaven (Rev 12:3, 7, 8.)
He has a throne. (Rev 13:2; 2:13)
Gives throne, power, and authority to sea-beast. (13:2,4.)
He is worshipped. (13:4a)
Destroyed forever. (20:9,10)

Now compare:
God the Father
Dwelling in heaven (Rev 4, 5)
He has a throne. (4:5; 7:9-15; 19:4)
Gives throne, power and authority to Jesus. (Math 28:18 Rev 2:27; 3:21; chapters 4,5.)
Is worshipped. (Rev 4:10; 15:4)
Lives and reign forever. (4:9; 5:13; 11:15)

The Land-beast or false prophet.
Called the false prophet because he deceives people with regards to religious matters. (16:13; 19:20; 20:10)
Lamb-like. (13:11)
Exercises all authority of sea-beast. (13:12a)
Directs worship to sea-beast. (13:12b,15)
Performs signs. (13:13; 19:20)
Brings fire down from heaven (13:13)
Gives breath/life to beasts image (13:15)
Applies mark of beast. (13:16)

Now compare:
The Holy Spirit
Called the Spirit of truth guiding people. (Jn 16:13 Rev 22:17)
Christ-like, in fact is the very Spirit of Christ. (Jn 14:26; 16:14; Romans 8:9,10)
Exercises authority of Christ (Jn 16:13, 14)
Directs our attention to Christ (Acts 5:29-32)
Fire from heaven at Pentecost (Acts 2)
Instills life to us, the image of Christ, His character. (Romans8:11,29; 2 Peter 1:3,4.)
Applies seal of God. (2 Cor 1:22 Eph 1:13 4:30 Rev 7:3, 4.)

The sea-beast or antichrist.
Comes from water to begin activity. (13:1)
Resembles dragon. (12:13 13:1)
Ten diadems. (13:1)
Ten horns (13:1)
Receives power throne and authority from dragon/Satan. (13:2,4)
42 months of activity in first phase. (13:5)
Was slain (13:3)
Resurrected (13:3)
Receives worship after healing (13:3,4,8)

Now compare:
Jesus Christ
Comes from water to begin ministry (Luke 3:21-23)
Resembles Father (Jn 14:19)
Many diadems (Rev 19:12)
Lamb has 7 horns (5:6)
Receives power throne and authority from His Father (Math 28:18 Rev 2:27 Chapters 4,5)
42 months of ministry in initial phase. (Gospel of John)
Was slain (Rev 5:6)
Was resurrected (Rev1:18)
Received worship after resurrection (Math 28:17)

 

[ewq1938]

No, the two witnesses were not wrong.

So do you disagree about Christ's kingdom not being here?

"My kingdom is not from hence."

In Luke 2, they were told what to do by an angel of the Lord, and there was also a presence of other angels around them.

We aren't discussing the shepherds but the wise men, from Mathew

 

[Brakelite]

Noel, Noel...Born is the King of Israel.

To become the Antichrist, the person must be anointed the King of Israel, thought-to-be messiah - instead of and against the rightful King of Israel - Jesus.

Being the Antichrist is Stage 3 of the person on my chart below.

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Read post 40 again. And take away the preconceptions and assumptions before you do. They're is nothing in scripture demanding the antichrist be a Jew, or be anointed the King of Israel. It has nothing to do with the nation of Israel, it has nothing to do with a physical temple in Jerusalem.
When Paul started prophetically that the man of sin was to sit in the temple of God, he was serious. Do you really honestly believe that a newly built temple in Jerusalem having the purpose of sacrificing animals and re-establishing the sanctuary services, could paddock be called the temple of God? No. The temple of God in the NT is the church. Always has been. The antichrist is to sit in the church. And as the apostle John said, he Forasmuch come from outside the church to attack it, he comes from within deceiving it. Read my pays 40 and 41 again with a different mindset, and enduring wool make sense, and you won't have to prognosticate about a future imaginary individual who couldn't possibly meet all the criteria prophecy gives us that we may correctly identify the antichrist.