Why its important to keep the Sabbath

[BarneyFife]

The ten summaries of Laws and the Ten Commandments are part of the Mosiac Law and none of them pertain to Christians….

How utterly absurd.

None of them?

How can you expect to be taken seriously?

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[BlessedPeace]

I think that might be the understatement of the present age—

Agreed.

and I don't mean that in any way critical to you. :)


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I know. :)

 

[BlessedPeace]

How utterly absurd.

None of them?

How can you expect to be taken seriously?

IMO, at this stage there are more than just that one for which that question applies .

So then the question becomes,why do they bother?

Maybe the faith they're really defending is sarcastic satire?

 

[Grailhunter]

How utterly absurd.

None of them?

How can you expect to be taken seriously?

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As I said, find a scripture that they are not part of the Law.....Just that simple....need smoke signals?
And what I expect is for you to take the scriptures seriously. Not make it all up as ya go.

 

[BarneyFife]

As I said, find a scripture that they are not part of the Law.....Just that simple....need smoke signals?
And what I expect is for you to take the scriptures seriously. Not make it all up as ya go.

I don't care much about what you expect if you hadn't caught onto that already.

The Scripture evidence for my position has been laid out enough times for onlookers to see.

It might surprise you to find that I don't think much of your sincerity, either.

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[BarneyFife]

IMO, at this stage there are more than just that one for which that question applies .

So then the question becomes,why do they bother?

Maybe the faith they're really defending is sarcastic satire?

I'm afraid it's much more grave than that. It's quite a diabolical deception.

Neo-Marxist French philosophers in the early '60s really gave substantial impetus to the clamoring for selfish individual liberties that we see running amok today.

At first it was only a leftist phenomenon but now the right has somewhat ironically joined in, too, in a kind of backlash that is common to unregenerate human nature.

Soon there will be so many "freedoms" recognized that eventually they will become like commodities in an inflationary economy and the liberties of certain minorities will be sacrificed in order that the majority (who are always wrong) can hope to preserve their very lives, while the others "love not their lives unto death."

I actually had a talk with ChatGPT and forced it to admit the feasibility of this scenario, much to its woke chagrin.

Hey, I got bored one day. ;)


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[Ziggy]

The reason why the seventh day is Holy is because God rested in it.

It's like the gift and the altar.
Mat 23:19
Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?

So the day is the gift, and God is the Altar which sanctifies the day.
It's not the day that makes God Holy or us Holy or anything Holy, But he that gifted it.

So when it says to keep the sabbath holy, it is God who is Holy and it is Him we keep.
The day would have no significance if God didn't have his presence in it.
Just like a man is a man except there is one man who was seperated from all other men, and has the Holy spirit in him.
God sanctified Jesus and blessed him because God rested in him.

Jesus is the seventh day God made Holy for himself to rest in.
I understand it's difficult to not look on the flesh of things and only see the carnal manifestation of a flesh and blood man we call Jesus.
I get it.
God prepared himself a body and placed his spirit in him. That Holy thing, the angel told Mary shall be born of God.
That Holy thing is anything God places his presence in. Because God is Holy.
God created a day, God created a body. The day and the body are the same Holy thing that God rested in.
God gave man a day, God gave man his son. The day and the son are the same Holy thing that God gave man to rest in with him.

Gen 2:3
And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Jhn 10:36
Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?


Jesus is the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.

Lev 8:35
Therefore shall ye abide at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation day and night seven days, and keep the charge of the LORD, that ye die not: for so I am commanded.
Act 20:31
Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.
1Th 2:9
For ye remember, brethren, our labour and travail: for labouring night and day, because we would not be chargeable unto any of you, we preached unto you the gospel of God.

Rom 13:8
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Jhn 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Jhn 13:1
Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.
Jhn 17:23
I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

We live in such a carnal minded world, it really is hard sometimes to grasp spiritual concepts.

2Co 5:16
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
2Co 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
2Co 5:18
And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
2Co 5:19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
2Co 5:20
Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
2Co 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Luk 13:24
Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Jhn 10:9
I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

hugs

 

[Grailhunter]

The Scripture evidence for my position has been laid out enough times for onlookers to see.

All scriptural evidence proves you wrong, the question is can you understand it.

Knock Knock, the lights are on but nobodies home.

 

[BarneyFife]

All scriptural evidence proves you wrong, the question is can you understand it.

Knock Knock, the lights are on but nobodies home.

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[David in NJ]

The ten summaries and the Ten Commandments that God called commandments are part of the Mosaic Law and you will not find a scripture that says they are not.

The basic Laws are basic morals but not Laws in the New Covenant….I mean what are you thinking? Do you think that adultery and murder could be allowed in Christianity? Could it be any other way?



Quoting Jewish scriptures to prove what?



Christ defined those commandments….

Matthew 22:34-40
But when the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered themselves together. One of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’This is the great and foremost commandment. The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”

What He was saying was that these two Commandments are of a higher morality…greater and above anything the Old Testament has to offer.

It all points to CHRIST who we are to love, obey and find REST.

 

[amigo de christo]

@marks , @BarneyFife @Brakelite @amigo de christo @amadeus @Ziggy

And the LORD appeared before Moses on/above the Mercy Seat between the Cherubim.

Exodus 25:22
There I will meet with you; and from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubim which are upon the ark of the testimony, I will speak to you about all that I will give you in commandment for the sons of Israel.

Numbers 7:89
Now when Moses went into the tabernacle of meeting to speak with Him, he heard the voice of One speaking to him from above the mercy seat that was on the ark of the Testimony, from between the two cherubim; thus He spoke to him.

Leviticus 16:1-2
Now the Lord spoke to Moses after the death of the two sons of Aaron, when they offered profane fire before the Lord, and died; and the Lord said to Moses: “Tell Aaron your brother not to come at just any time into the Holy Place inside the veil, before the mercy seat which is on the ark, lest he die; for I will appear in the cloud above the mercy seat.

The TEN Commandments are inside the ARK while the LORD appears Above the Mercy Seat.

Now go back and read Matthew 19:16-21 and count the Commandments.

And who was the ONLY one that could appear before that seat within and behind the second veil .
THE HIGH PREIST .
WHILE as yet the temple stood ........
SOMETHING HUGE OCCURED long long ago in a time long past and in a country far away .
THE MESSIAH CAME
and with HIS FINAL WORDS it is done , THAT WAS RENT IN TWAIN . THE WAY WAS MADE INTO THE HOLIEST OF HOLIES
and now any and all who come to him BY FAITH He maketh intercession for
Way back and long ago the way into the actual heavenly the holiest of holies had not yet been made
BUT IT WAS IN JESUS CHRIST . YEP .
Never let the false love inclusive delusion make you believe its not necessary to have to believed on JESUS THE CHRIST
Never let a millimeter of its rainbow love and broad path ways enter into your heart or mind .
CAUSE ITS A LIE SPAWNED BY THE DEVIL , that serpent , the dragon the father of lies .
THIS lamb is going out hard david . the more i preach JESUS CHRIST and the ABSOLUTELY TOTAL dire need to believe on HIM
the more i am becoming hated by this inclusive we are one generation . OH WELL , I Dont fear them
nor do i seek to please men or win the approval of men . FOR IF I sought to please men , AS DOES THE SOCIAL INCLUSIVE GOSPLE then
i would NOT BE THE SERVANT OF CHRIST but rather the servant of THE DEVIL . I know my words seem harsh
hateful , non loving , judgmental . BUT I AM TELLING US ALL this lie wont save ONE SOUL but will damn them all .
BUT JESUS CAN SAVE . SO HE ALONE IS WHO I POINT TOO . PEROID , END OF DISCUSSION .

 

[amigo de christo]

i am in CHRIST and FREE from the old covenant law.

The TEN are not considered part of the old covenant law = which is why CHRIST confirmed them in HIMSELF.
All TEN commandments are reiterated by the LORD Jesus Christ and the Apostles = in CHRIST

Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

What law did God place in our hearts and minds? = the same ones that Christ commanded us.

John 14:15 - If you love Me, keep My commandments.

1 John 2:3-6 - Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.
He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.

Free from the penalty of death given under the old covenant .
But we are not free TO SIN . many men are attacking the righteousness of the law
these days .
what i mean is that many are now making void the law through grace .
one example is this
REMEMBER when GOD said man shall not lie with man as with woman
THEY NOW SAY , HEY WE AINT UNDER THE LAW , that is okay , its no longer seen or evil to GOD .
BOY DO I GOT bad news .
and that aint the only thing they do either .
GOD did not send the SON so we could continue to omit , disobey HIM . HE DID NOT SEND JESUS CHRIST
so that now we can call evil good and good evil either .
IN those days I WILL WRITE MY LAWS . GOD already WROTE THEM ONCE
but HE DID THIS ON STONES
Under the new convenant , IN JESUS CHRIST , HE COMETH TO WRITE THEM UPON OUR HEARTS AND IN OUR MINDS .
THIS is something we better start learning and fast . Just a friendly reminder .
NOW to the law we do not look to attain righteousness , by the law itself we can only BE FOUND SINNERS
for there is no man that has not sinned .
HOWEVER if the jesus we follow has become a minstir of sin , THEN YOU UNDERSTAND VERY WELL why i didnt capitilize
that jesus . FOR IT IS THE DEVIL USING the name of jesus , another image of jesus of god and of love
AND to perditon will all go who followed that jesus . Just a real friendly reminder .

 

[amigo de christo]

I don't care much about what you expect if you hadn't caught onto that already.

The Scripture evidence for my position has been laid out enough times for onlookers to see.

It might surprise you to find that I don't think much of your sincerity, either.

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When GOD first wrote the law , what did HE write the law upon . STONES .
when HE said he would make a new covenant
did he say i will take those stones and omit what was written
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OR did HE say something else .
I will write my laws upon their hearts and in their minds .
The next time a man stands to hold a rainbow high , we better remember this .
CAUSE NEITHER GOD OR CHRIST is a ministir of ANY SIN .
THe next time we sit under men who say UNITY UNITY UNITY
and over look doctrines for sake of unity , WE BETTER REMEMBER THIS BARNEY
for man is to live by THE WORD OF GOD by every word of GOD . and GOD DONT SUPPORT SIN DUDE
NOR Does he SUPPORT THOSE who omit HIS OWN WARNINGS and words .
YET SO MANY NOW EMBRACE THE INCLUSIVE JUDGE NOT CORRECT NOT FALSE SORRY DUNG PILE LOVE LIE

 

[amigo de christo]

Just a friendly reminder folks

 

[amigo de christo]

It all points to CHRIST who we are to love, obey and find REST.

WHO WE OBEY my friend , THAT IS WHO WE LOVE . as JESUS HIMSELF said long ago .
SO my question to all is this
How come so many who claim to believe in JESUS CHRIST dont believe all things HE SAID .
oops . THERE REALLY IS ONLY ONE WAY TO THE FATHER
and THOSE WHO DENY , believe not on JESUS CHRIST , well JESUS HISMELF said THEY WOULD BE DAMNED .
EVEN WORSE Than it was for sodman gaymorrah .
SO why on earth are folks believing in this false love lie that other religoins serve the same GOD WE DO
and why o why are folks believing that somehow The love of GOD accepts SINS .
cause the last time i checked
CHARITY NEVER REJOICES IN INQUITY or behaves itself unseemingly
and yet by thier version of love
i see that something very wicked and dark has occured
That people no longer even hide their sins but celebrate them IN THE STREETS for all to see and holler love love love
TALK about a delusion . THEY have become as SODOM unto GOD
they no longer hide thier sins they celebrate them in the streets and worse the churches seem to love to have it so .
BUT what will they do in the END thereof .

 

[Phoneman777]

"the evening and the morning were the first day" for SIX days but no evening on the 7th = (as @Ziggy previously pointed out)

NOTICE = First comes evening/darkness = Death on the Cross = God's WORK FINISHED from the Foundation of the world

Jeremiah 2:31
“O my people, listen to the words of the LORD! Have I been like a desert to Israel? Have I been to them a land of darkness?
Why then do my people say, ‘At last we are free from God! We don’t need him anymore!’

Matthew 27:39-41
And those who passed by blasphemed Him, wagging their heads and saying, “You who destroy the temple and build it in three days, save Yourself! If You are the Son of God, come down from the cross.”
Likewise the chief priests also, mocking with the scribes and elders, said, “He saved others; Himself He cannot save.

Luke 23:44-46
Now it was about the sixth hour, and there was darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour.
Then the sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was torn in two.
And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I commit My spirit.’
” Having said this, He breathed His last.

7th DAY has no darkness = RESURRECTION = sun rises = SON RISES = Pure LIGHT

attention @Brakelite @BarneyFife @Phoneman777

ICUMI:

Days 1-3: God created the spaces
Days 4-6: God fills the spaces
Day 7: God creates a space of time and fills it with Himself.

Can we really expect to find any darkness anywhere in that?

 

[Phoneman777]

Do you BELIEVE the LORD Jesus that HE alone gives us REST???

Do you believe that since Jesus is our reward, we can rob banks?
Do you believe that since Jesus is our lifegiver, we can become life takers?
Do you believe that since Jesus is our faithfulness, we can sleep with the neighbor's wife?
Do you believe that since Jesus is our truth, we can now tell lies?

THEN WHY DO YOU CLAIM THAT SINCE JESUS IS OUR REST, WE CAN BREAK THE SABBATH?

 

[Ziggy]

Day 1 Work
Day 2 Work
Day 3 Work
Day 4 Work
Day 5 Work
Day 6 Work
Day 7 Grace

When you lift a finger to add to God's grace you have broken the Sabbath.
When you seek to justify yourself in the presence of God you have broken the Sabbath.

Take off your shoes for you are standing on hallowed ground.

We are in that day of grace.
If you are born again you are standing in the presence of God.
Now rest from your labours of self justification, Jesus has already justified you by himself.

Follow where he leads instead of trying to lead and make him follow you.

hugs

 

[BlessedPeace]

Day 1 Work
Day 2 Work
Day 3 Work
Day 4 Work
Day 5 Work
Day 6 Work
Day 7 Grace

When you lift a finger to add to God's grace you have broken the Sabbath.
When you seek to justify yourself in the presence of God you have broken the Sabbath.

Take off your shoes for you are standing on hallowed ground.

We are in that day of grace.
If you are born again you are standing in the presence of God.
Now rest from your labours of self justification, Jesus has already justified you by himself.

Follow where he leads instead of trying to lead and make him follow you.

hugs

I can appreciate this thread proving God's word is true in so many ways.

It's also a shame at the same time to witness that.

 

[Ziggy]

I can appreciate this thread proving God's word is true in so many ways.

It's also a shame at the same time to witness that.

It's a matter of interpretation and how one understands it.

Some believe the day is a 24 hour period, others believe it is forever. There is no evening or morning, there is only light and God's light is life everlasting.
So whether you stand in his presence for 24 hours or stand in his presence every moment of your life now and hereafter,
Whatever you do and however you do it, do it for His glory.

Some do both, some take this day and others take that day, some take two days and call it a week end. I myself take everyday to humble myself in his presence and serve him. Daily.
My "work" week is over. I can't save myself. So I rest in his power of redeeming my soul.

Amen?

hugs

There is a physical rest and a spiritual rest.
One is for the body and the other is for the soul.
Keep one, keep both, keep none or all,
but whatever you do, do it to the Glory of God.