Who are the beasts of Revelation ch 13? See inside -->>

[Davy]

Something else to consider is Kabbalah and their so called "Tree of Life".

Notice there are Ten Sephirot...

These can be considered to be the Ten Horns...

Revelation 17:12
"And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast."

Note that there is an Eleventh 'Hidden' Sephirot called DA'AT.

"In the branch of Jewish mysticism known as Kabbalah, Daʻat ("Knowledge", Hebrew: דעת‎ [ˈdaʕaθ]) is the location (the mystical state) where all ten sefirot in the Tree of Life are united as one."

Da'at - Wikipedia

Now, where have I read that before? Ten united as One? Oh, that's right. The next verse...

Revelation 17:13
"These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast."

Now, if we could only pinpoint the folks that practice that crazy old religion, then perhaps we could figure out who the Moshiach... oops, I mean Antichrist is.

You really need to dump all that occult mysticism stuff and not relate it to God's Word. It has no place in God's Word, and will only present confusion, as confusion is the occult's main job.

 

[Mark51]

Please Read This Post Carefully, You May Even Need To Read It Twice. Take Note Of How This Is Too Neat To Be Neither A Coincidence Or An Accident.

Clear your mind of everything that you have ever thought or been taught about the book of Revelation, especially when it comes to the beasts and the harlot. If you read this carefully and let it sink in you will understand that it is 100% correct. I warn you, it is long but necessarily so.

I won't quote the verses but read Revelation 13:1 and Revelation 13:11. The key to understanding these verses and I suppose the whole book of Revelation is the blasphemous names on the heads of the beast.

When you read the Old Testament, what is it that provokes God to anger the most? What was the reason God brought judgement on Israel? I'll tell you what it was, IDOLATRY! The worship of false gods or false religions.

It follows then that the blasphemous names would be the names of religions because what could be more blasphemous to God than the name of a false god or religion? But which religions?

Well as the only religion that leads to heaven is Christianity and the beast is the ANTI Christ, presumably that means that the false religions would also have to have a "messiah" of some description.

Do you know how many religions besides Christianity have a messianic figure of some sort? Seven! And only seven. Seven blasphemous names, seven religions..

Those seven religions are further separated into 10 different branches, that is, three of the seven have two major branches. The horns on the beast therefore are the ten major branches of those religions and the ten crowns are the authority each religion/branch possesses to give to their messiah currently held by the figurehead leader of each religion/branch. Ten horns, ten branches.. Ten crowns, ten figureheads..

The seven heads are the respective "messiahs."

Read that again and understand what it means.

That's right, there isn't going to be only one antiChrist, there are going to be *SEVEN!* One for me and one for you depending on where in the world you live and on which side of the aisle you fall.

The seven religions are Judaism (Orthodox and Zionism), islam (Sunni and Shia), Buddhism (Theravada and Mahayana), Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Taoism and Ba'bism/Bahá'i. (7 names /10 branches/10 crowns)

The respective "messiahs" are Mashiach, mahdi, Maitreya, Kalki, Saoshyant, Li Hong and "he whom God will make manifest" . (7 "messiahs"/7 heads)

When the Bible says "All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast" it's because they already do, and they don't even know that they do..

Using the same formula of heads being religions and horns being branches of them we can decipher who the second beast and his horns represent and also with the harlot too.

In Revelation 13:11 we're told that the second beast has "two horns like a lamb" and as we know Jesus is the Lamb, the beast out of the earth must represent a false Christianity.

The second beast also mimics Elijah by calling fire down from heaven so presumably that means he's coming as a false Elijah to the first beast's false Christ which will also be why he's called the false prophet.

There are only two branches of "Christianity" that are expecting Elijah in the end-times, the LDS and the JW's. Two branches, two horns..

The harlot represents not only Catholicism and through her daughters most organized Christianity but she also represents all religions that have a female godhead because she is Asherah who they all ultimately worship.

You should notice that virtually every religion in the world is covered and that those religions cover practically the whole world. You should also see that I have merely applied available facts to the scriptures.

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So who are the beasts and the harlot? Can we know? I believe that we can, yes, and they're not who you think they are.

In 2 Timothy 3:8 Paul mentions Jannes and Jambres but that is the only mention of them in the whole Bible. Who are they and what have they done to warrant their actual names being in the Bible?

They were the Egyptian sorcerers who went up against Moses in Pharoah's court when Moses turned his staff into a snake and it ate the staffs of the sorcerers after they did the same thing. If you read the account of the plagues in Exodus you can see that God humiliated the Egyptian magicians and the Egyptians in general.

But why would Paul name them in scripture 1500 years after they had died? There has to be a reason and if you do a bit of research into them I believe that it becomes obvious why.

Jannes and Jambres left Egypt with the Israelites but *Jannes drowned in the Red Sea* when God closed it over the Egyptians. His brother Jambres stayed with the Israelites and was even believed to have converted to Judaism. He was supposedly one of the instigators of the golden calf incident and was one of the followers of Korah who were *swallowed up by the earth.*

Jannes drowned in the sea - beast out of the sea
Jambres swallowed by the earth - beast out of the earth

Aggadic writings tell us that the Egyptian sorcerers, during the end of days, possessed the necessary occult knowledge to embark on a journey to the Jewish world to come. I'll repeat that, the *Egyptian sorcerers possessed the necessary occult knowledge to embark on a journey to the Jewish world to come.*

So two powerful Egyptian sorcerers who have a serious beef with God over the way he humiliated them in Pharoah's court and over the way in which they died possess the occult knowledge to appear in the world today.. Ookaay..

Is anybody expecting a couple of 3500yr old Egyptian sorcerers any time soon? Well they're coming anyway and I don't think that they're coming as tourists..

But why does God call them beasts and abominations? Because to God they ARE beasts and abominations, Jannes especially..

Jannes is actually the Roman god Janus and while he's normally portrayed as having two heads or two faces he actually has many heads.. Seven heads to be exact. This study by the Black Sheep Researcher tells you an awful lot about Janus/Jannes.

You'll discover that Janus is Bel, and Janus is Ba'al, is Moloch and even more. It leaves little doubt that Janus is the seven headed beast out of the sea. Jambres is his brother.. The harlot is their mother (the mother of prostitutes and of the *abominations of the earth* ).

It's also possible that they are Titans, you know, big giants? Like *REALLY BIG GIANTS!* Have a watch of this video to follow my train of thought here..

200 Watchers & The Race Of Giants They Created/

Their mother, the harlot, is Jezebel who was the wife of Ahab. How can Jezebel be their mother? Well, like her sons, Jezebel was also a powerful occult sorcerer, I can only surmise that when God says she's their mom He is talking about the spirit that controlled her, that being the spirit of Asherah who is the mother of the Titans through another one of her alter egos, Gaia. They are the same person..

So in summary, because this comment is long enough anyway..

Anti-Christ = the beast out of the sea = Janus/Jannes (+ seven antiChrists)
False prophet = beast out of the earth = Jambres
The harlot = Jezebel

You can't tell me that when these guys show up people aren't going to "wonder after the beast" , a seven headed giant magician or that they won't be fooled by their "lying signs and wonders" considering how powerful their magic is. When "Elijah" tells everybody that Janus is the god they've always been worshipping the seven messiahs will concur and so the world will be convinced to worship Janus AS God.

"See, I have warned you ahead of time"

Blessings

P.S. there are some supporting Scriptures but the post is too long already..

John’s vision, described at the beginning of Revelation Chapter 13, was symbolic of dominant world powers/governments “ascending out of the sea.” (Isaiah 57:20; Revelation 17:15) At John’s time of his vision, five were of the past (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece) one was present (Rome) and one yet to be identified in the future. (Revelation 17:9-11) This future world power was ultimately a duel/united relationship: England and America. This same beast is partially described in the book of Daniel. Notice what it reads at the end of Revelation 13:1: “…the dragon [Satan] gave to the beast its power….” All governments are under the influence of Satan.-2 Corinthians 4:4; 1 John 5:19.

Consider Revelation 13: 11-13. The two-headed “…wild beast ascending out of the earth….” Notice the difference from the seven-headed beast. This two-horned beast is also political and under the control/influence of Satan’s already established earthly system of things.

Ask yourself or consult history of the political system that was proposed, promoted, supported etc. mainly by what country/s after the First World War. This entity was the League of Nations; and the after the Second World War, the United Nations.

 

[Bobby Jo]

I'm not sure I follow you Booby Jo.
...
What say you?

Ummmmmmmmm, I say that Scripture agrees with History, and there's no need to either ADD or SUBTRACT from what's already been itemized:

Dan. 2 & 7
1. Gold, Babylon
2. Silver, Medo/Persia
3. Bronze, Greece
4. Iron, Rome
-- Clay, "Divided"
-- 5. Lion/Eagle, U.K./U.S.
-- 6. Bear, Russia
-- 7. Leopard (actually a TIGER), China
-- 8. "dreadful", United Nations

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And when added to Rev. 12 where the the Seven-Heads/Seven-Diadems are up through History, pending the Beast

And when the Beast arrives in Rev. 13, he comes with his TEN Nation/Diadem alliance, where the THREE SUPERPOWERS are not only cited, but cited with their ATTRIBUTES: Lion MOUTH because the U.K./U.S. is proficient in Trade, Finance, Science, & Technology; Leopard (actually a Tiger) BODY because China has the largest Population; and Bear FEET because Russia has the Most Land Mass.

And when the itemization is given per Rev.17, it's a Future-Present-Tense text where:

1. Gold, Babylon -- 1 of 5 has fallen
2. Silver, Medo/Persia-- 2 of 5 has fallen
3. Bronze, Greece-- 3 of 5 has fallen
4. Iron, Rome-- 4 of 5 has fallen
-- Clay, "Divided"
-- 5. Lion/Eagle, U.K./U.S.-- 5 of 5 has fallen from pre-eminence
-- 6. Bear, Russia -- "one is" when it attacks Israel
-- 7. Leopard (actually a TIGER), China -- "one is yet to come and shall remain a little while" when it "spanks" Russia
-- 8. "dreadful", United Nations -- "is an eighth which was and is not" because it has NO Geography, NO Populous, NO Army, etc. It's a paper entity.
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Oh, I'm sorry. It appears you've already stopped your ears. Well, too bad for you! :)
Bobby Jo

 

[ReChoired]

Oh, I'm sorry. It appears you've already stopped your ears. Well, too bad for you!

Of course people are going to close their ears to error, it is written:

Pro_19:27 Cease, my son, to hear the instruction that causeth to err from the words of knowledge.​

You have an incorrect, that is to say, non-scriptural identification. You simply provided your own private interpretation, with Russia, Israel, China, etc.

It is also written:

Pro 18:17 He that is first in his own cause seemeth just; but his neighbour cometh and searcheth him.​

Will you hear a position against yours?

Pro 18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.​

 

[Bobby Jo]

...
You have an incorrect, that is to say, non-scriptural identification. ...

I've provided BOTH what Scripture depicts, and History substantiates. However, some people prefer lies disguised as "Church Doctrines".

So you KEEP your FALSE church doctrines, and I'll keep my TRUE Scripture and History! Deut. 11:22.


Good Luck (which is a polite way of saying "good riddance").
Bobby Jo

 

[Jay Ross]

Having our understanding of what scripture depicts and historical events from history substantiating our understanding does not mean that our understanding of the scriptures is actually true. Satan is very good at providing evidence that hides the truth of the matter and leads us astray. There are very good examples of this on this forum, of people who firmly believe that their understanding is the only true understanding that people should have and they will argue with everybody else who disagree with them until the cows come home and people give up because it is time to rest and to trust God in what He has foretold will happen, even if it is not happening the way we understanding it will.

Sometimes it is best to leave the people who believe their own lies and apparent knowledge to God to straighten out.

Shalom

 

[Bobby Jo]

Having our understanding of what scripture depicts and historical events from history substantiating our understanding does not mean that our understanding of the scriptures is actually true. ...

... the REAL TRUTH comes from the liars at Corporate CULT, and as repeated by the liars behind the pulpit.


Yeah, NOT.
Bobby Jo

 

[Jay Ross]

... the REAL TRUTH comes from the liars at Corporate CULT, and as repeated by the liars behind the pulpit.


Yeah, NOT.
Bobby Jo

I made no specific reference to any one person on this forum, but rather I was referencing the people who zealously defend their peculiar theological understanding and interpretation of scripture.

If that cap fits you because of your particular cultic practices, then so be it, but my post above was not directed at you alone, as there are many more like you who hold fast to what they understand, and defend their position vehemently, whether or not their position/understanding is defendable or not as to being the truth.

 

[Bobby Jo]

... there are many more like you who hold fast to ...

... Scripture and History ...

But there are many whose particular cult practices have deceived them, as they spew that deceit on others. :)


And of course when Challenged to defend our respective Doctrines, I stand ready, willing, and able to present; but the liars run and hide.

2 Tim. 4:2 preach the word, be instant in season and out of season, convince, rebuke, and exhort, be unfailing in patience and in teaching.​

Bobby Jo

 

[Jay Ross]

... Scripture and History ...

But there are many whose particular cult practices have deceived them, as they spew that deceit on others. :)


And of course when Challenged to defend our respective Doctrines, I stand ready, willing, and able to present; but the liars run and hide.

2 Tim. 4:2 preach the word, be instant in season and out of season, convince, rebuke, and exhort, be unfailing in patience and in teaching.​

Bobby Jo

You are right, people chose to "hide" as you claim, when in reality, because of your intransient views, and your put down style, it is much more convenient for people to simply withdraw from any conversation that they may be having with you.

I am still waiting for you to respond to my question as to: - Who or what the entities in Dan. 7:2, described as the four winds of heaven, are?

But all that happens when I ask this same question of you, is that you go quite for a while and make no attempt to answer that question, before you launch once again with your usual bullying style of posting.

Shalom

PS: - It seems to me that your Dan. 7 doctrinal understanding is not far removed from many of the Cult denomination that you incessantly bag. Be careful of accusing them of spewing their deceit and lies onto other when it can be perceived from your numerous posts that you do likewise.

 

[Bobby Jo]

You are right, people chose to "hide" as you claim ...

... because THEY CAN'T DEFEND THEIR FALSE DOCTRINES!!!

Consider the simple example of Dan. 2 where a certain CULT Correctly depicts the FIVE World Empire Scenario. And when asked who the FIFTH consist of they assert: "the coalition of the willing". And when FURTHER queried as to those "members", the CULT members RUM from the conversation like scared little girls. And when even FURTHER queries about how Dan. 2 FIVE ≠ Dan. 7 FOUR; they cite some BOGUS "spiritual" fulfillment while they cower behind their mommies apron.


But of such are liars and deceivers, -- who make their choice, albeit a "poor" choice.
Bobby Jo

 

[Bobby Jo]

... Who or what the entities in Dan. 7:2, described as the four winds of heaven, are?
...

To All,

... And remember, let's not put the CART before the HORSE! ;)

Bobby Jo :)

 

[Jay Ross]

... because THEY CAN'T DEFEND THEIR FALSE DOCTRINES!!!

Consider the simple example of Dan. 2 where a certain CULT Correctly depicts the FIVE World Empire Scenario. And when asked who the FIFTH consist of they assert: "the coalition of the willing". And when FURTHER queried as to those "members", the CULT members RUM from the conversation like scared little girls. And when even FURTHER queries about how Dan. 2 FIVE ≠ Dan. 7 FOUR; they cite some BOGUS "spiritual" fulfillment while they cower behind their mommies apron.


But of such are liars and deceivers, -- who make their choice, albeit a "poor" choice.
Bobby Jo

To All,

... And remember, let's not put the CART before the HORSE! ;)

Bobby Jo :)

First off, your usual false claim that I am a part of a cult.

Since we all belong to some form of "Christian" "cult," then you are including yourself in a cult of some form and therefore your post condemns you as well because of your cultic beliefs which you claim are supported by both scripture and historical past events.

As for you answering the question I have posed for you to answer as to "who or what entities" the four winds of heaven are?", all you can do is deflect the question so that you do not have to answer it which clearly demonstrates that you have no answer or understanding of either Daniel. 2's Statue prophecy or of Daniel. 7 and the beasts mentioned in that chapter.

Now since you carefully chose what/which Historical facts you use to support your theory with respect to Dan. 2 and Dan. 7, with some facts not even related to events within the Land of the Chaldeans, the question now becomes of your understanding of the theory you hold fast to, is: - Does Bobby Jo have a correct interpretation and understanding of Dan. 2 and Dan. 7?

From my perspective, your interpretation of the scriptures with respect to the people Groups, Kingdoms or Empires having dominion over the Land of the Chaldeans during particular time periods since the time of Daniel, does not include other passage references found in the scriptures outside of Daniel in both the Old and the New Testaments some of which were penned during the lifetime of Daniel himself.

These other Biblical references to the nations/kingdoms/empires having dominion over the Land of the Chaldeans are also supported by Historical facts which clearly shows that the fourth segment of the Daniel. 2's statue prophecy is Iraq and the Fifth segments is the Coalition of the Willing.

Now if I am wrong, I am willing to take that on my chin, but with you your defence to being wrong is to come out swinging with your bullying tactics and bluster of being the only right person on this particular narrow topic.

Shalom

 

[Bobby Jo]

... Now if I am wrong, I am willing to take that on my chin, ...

... all we have to do to resolve Dan. 7, is to first establish Dan. 2 with respect to 7.

So let us all know when you're willing to NAME the participants in your CORRECT FIFTH Empire by identifying those PARTICIPANTS in your purported "coalition of the willing".

Then if those "PARTICIPANTS" don't match the Dan. 7 depictions, we'll know you haven't accurately defined those "PARTICIPANTS". :)


And just to reiterate, I AGREE that Dan. 2 presents FIVE Empires, -- of which the FIFTH is a "Divided Kingdom", which participants are delineated in Dan. 7, and substantiated by World History as the THREE SUPERPOWERS and the UNITED NATIONS.

But if anyone can come up with other candidates and substantiate each of the DETAILS typical of the Bear's THREE RIBS; the Leopard's (actually a TIGER) FOUR HEADS and FOUR WINGS; and how the Dreadful Beast is destroyed but the three other Beasts continue for "a season and a time", -- then we can consider those prospects.


But until then I offer Scriptural and Historical PROOF, but others only offer empty assertions.
Bobby Jo :)

 

[Jay Ross]

... all we have to do to resolve Dan. 7, is to first establish Dan. 2 with respect to 7.

So let us all know when you're willing to NAME the participants in your CORRECT FIFTH Empire by identifying those PARTICIPANTS in your purported "coalition of the willing".

Then if those "PARTICIPANTS" don't match the Dan. 7 depictions, we'll know you haven't accurately defined those "PARTICIPANTS". :)


And just to reiterate, I AGREE that Dan. 2 presents FIVE Empires, -- of which the FIFTH is a "Divided Kingdom", which participants are delineated in Dan. 7, and substantiated by World History as the THREE SUPERPOWERS and the UNITED NATIONS.

But if anyone can come up with other candidates and substantiate each of the DETAILS typical of the Bear's THREE RIBS; the Leopard's (actually a TIGER) FOUR HEADS and FOUR WINGS; and how the Dreadful Beast is destroyed but the three other Beasts continue for "a season and a time", -- then we can consider those prospects.


But until then I offer Scriptural and Historical PROOF, but others only offer empty assertions.
Bobby Jo :)

You have proved my point.

Goodbye to you Bobby Jo for the time being until you change your demeanour.

 

[Bobby Jo]

Some people STEP UP; others RUN AWAY.


mommy, mommy, mommy ...
Bobby Jo

 

[Heart2Soul]

Please Read This Post Carefully, You May Even Need To Read It Twice. Take Note Of How This Is Too Neat To Be Neither A Coincidence Or An Accident.

Clear your mind of everything that you have ever thought or been taught about the book of Revelation, especially when it comes to the beasts and the harlot. If you read this carefully and let it sink in you will understand that it is 100% correct. I warn you, it is long but necessarily so.

I won't quote the verses but read Revelation 13:1 and Revelation 13:11. The key to understanding these verses and I suppose the whole book of Revelation is the blasphemous names on the heads of the beast.

When you read the Old Testament, what is it that provokes God to anger the most? What was the reason God brought judgement on Israel? I'll tell you what it was, IDOLATRY! The worship of false gods or false religions.

It follows then that the blasphemous names would be the names of religions because what could be more blasphemous to God than the name of a false god or religion? But which religions?

Well as the only religion that leads to heaven is Christianity and the beast is the ANTI Christ, presumably that means that the false religions would also have to have a "messiah" of some description.

Do you know how many religions besides Christianity have a messianic figure of some sort? Seven! And only seven. Seven blasphemous names, seven religions..

Those seven religions are further separated into 10 different branches, that is, three of the seven have two major branches. The horns on the beast therefore are the ten major branches of those religions and the ten crowns are the authority each religion/branch possesses to give to their messiah currently held by the figurehead leader of each religion/branch. Ten horns, ten branches.. Ten crowns, ten figureheads..

The seven heads are the respective "messiahs."

Read that again and understand what it means.

That's right, there isn't going to be only one antiChrist, there are going to be *SEVEN!* One for me and one for you depending on where in the world you live and on which side of the aisle you fall.

The seven religions are Judaism (Orthodox and Zionism), islam (Sunni and Shia), Buddhism (Theravada and Mahayana), Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Taoism and Ba'bism/Bahá'i. (7 names /10 branches/10 crowns)

The respective "messiahs" are Mashiach, mahdi, Maitreya, Kalki, Saoshyant, Li Hong and "he whom God will make manifest" . (7 "messiahs"/7 heads)

When the Bible says "All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast" it's because they already do, and they don't even know that they do..

Using the same formula of heads being religions and horns being branches of them we can decipher who the second beast and his horns represent and also with the harlot too.

In Revelation 13:11 we're told that the second beast has "two horns like a lamb" and as we know Jesus is the Lamb, the beast out of the earth must represent a false Christianity.

The second beast also mimics Elijah by calling fire down from heaven so presumably that means he's coming as a false Elijah to the first beast's false Christ which will also be why he's called the false prophet.

There are only two branches of "Christianity" that are expecting Elijah in the end-times, the LDS and the JW's. Two branches, two horns..

The harlot represents not only Catholicism and through her daughters most organized Christianity but she also represents all religions that have a female godhead because she is Asherah who they all ultimately worship.

You should notice that virtually every religion in the world is covered and that those religions cover practically the whole world. You should also see that I have merely applied available facts to the scriptures.

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So who are the beasts and the harlot? Can we know? I believe that we can, yes, and they're not who you think they are.

In 2 Timothy 3:8 Paul mentions Jannes and Jambres but that is the only mention of them in the whole Bible. Who are they and what have they done to warrant their actual names being in the Bible?

They were the Egyptian sorcerers who went up against Moses in Pharoah's court when Moses turned his staff into a snake and it ate the staffs of the sorcerers after they did the same thing. If you read the account of the plagues in Exodus you can see that God humiliated the Egyptian magicians and the Egyptians in general.

But why would Paul name them in scripture 1500 years after they had died? There has to be a reason and if you do a bit of research into them I believe that it becomes obvious why.

Jannes and Jambres left Egypt with the Israelites but *Jannes drowned in the Red Sea* when God closed it over the Egyptians. His brother Jambres stayed with the Israelites and was even believed to have converted to Judaism. He was supposedly one of the instigators of the golden calf incident and was one of the followers of Korah who were *swallowed up by the earth.*

Jannes drowned in the sea - beast out of the sea
Jambres swallowed by the earth - beast out of the earth

Aggadic writings tell us that the Egyptian sorcerers, during the end of days, possessed the necessary occult knowledge to embark on a journey to the Jewish world to come. I'll repeat that, the *Egyptian sorcerers possessed the necessary occult knowledge to embark on a journey to the Jewish world to come.*

So two powerful Egyptian sorcerers who have a serious beef with God over the way he humiliated them in Pharoah's court and over the way in which they died possess the occult knowledge to appear in the world today.. Ookaay..

Is anybody expecting a couple of 3500yr old Egyptian sorcerers any time soon? Well they're coming anyway and I don't think that they're coming as tourists..

But why does God call them beasts and abominations? Because to God they ARE beasts and abominations, Jannes especially..

Jannes is actually the Roman god Janus and while he's normally portrayed as having two heads or two faces he actually has many heads.. Seven heads to be exact. This study by the Black Sheep Researcher tells you an awful lot about Janus/Jannes.

You'll discover that Janus is Bel, and Janus is Ba'al, is Moloch and even more. It leaves little doubt that Janus is the seven headed beast out of the sea. Jambres is his brother.. The harlot is their mother (the mother of prostitutes and of the *abominations of the earth* ).

It's also possible that they are Titans, you know, big giants? Like *REALLY BIG GIANTS!* Have a watch of this video to follow my train of thought here..

200 Watchers & The Race Of Giants They Created/

Their mother, the harlot, is Jezebel who was the wife of Ahab. How can Jezebel be their mother? Well, like her sons, Jezebel was also a powerful occult sorcerer, I can only surmise that when God says she's their mom He is talking about the spirit that controlled her, that being the spirit of Asherah who is the mother of the Titans through another one of her alter egos, Gaia. They are the same person..

So in summary, because this comment is long enough anyway..

Anti-Christ = the beast out of the sea = Janus/Jannes (+ seven antiChrists)
False prophet = beast out of the earth = Jambres
The harlot = Jezebel

You can't tell me that when these guys show up people aren't going to "wonder after the beast" , a seven headed giant magician or that they won't be fooled by their "lying signs and wonders" considering how powerful their magic is. When "Elijah" tells everybody that Janus is the god they've always been worshipping the seven messiahs will concur and so the world will be convinced to worship Janus AS God.

"See, I have warned you ahead of time"

Blessings

P.S. there are some supporting Scriptures but the post is too long already..

I watched the video...skipped through alot of it because I intend to go back and listen some more....but I am in love with that song at the end...what's the name of it...who is the singer?

 

[Bobby Jo]

To All,

To consider how people "think", -- one can see the deceptions in this Election where the TRUTH SEEKS THE LIGHT of FACTS; but the Liars try to conceal their deeds in darkness. A PERFECT EXAMPLE is from the results of the AUDIT of some 22 Michigan Voting Machines, where the audit results were prevented from being Published BY THE SECRETARY OF STATE.

It took a Judge to over-rule the Secretary of State's petition, but the Judge still FORCED SOME REDACTIONS.


So too where purported "Christians" spew their FALSE Ideologies and then REFUSE to defend them. And so they hide in darkness afraid you'll dig deep enough to discover their deceptions.

But GOD says "Freely you have Received, so Freely Give", and I am MORE THAN WILLING to both Present and Defend what Scripture Demands and what History Documents! :)
Bobby Jo

 

[Heart2Soul]

Would you guys PLEASE educate yourselves on the definition of cult and occult...
One refers to all religions
The other specifically refers to dark, evil, or satanic beliefs.

 

[Bobby Jo]

Would you guys PLEASE educate yourselves on the definition of cult ...

Dearest H2S,
It seems to me that ANY Religion/Denomination that FORCES a person to accept THEIR understanding of Scripture and/or GOD, is a CULT. Of course there are always varying degrees of such imposition, but we're NOT called to be under Men, -- only under GOD. So if any MAN thinks he's our SUPERIOR, it's time to leave their company:

Matt. 23:9 ... call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. ​

And to my knowledge there's one particular religion, which is actually a CULT, and this "organization" promulgates the premise where Dan. 2 depicts FIVE World Empires (which is CORRECT); but where they FALSELY depict this FIFTH Empire as the "coalition of the willing".

But of course there's NO TRUTH to their "coalition of the willing", and the "church members" can't challenge their "cult leaders" because they'll be "excommunicated"; but at the same time these "church members" repeat these FALSE DOCTRINES, while being unable to explain exactly what the "coalition of the willing" means, includes, or even excludes.


And so these "members" insist that they have knowledge, but will NEVER have knowledge:

2 Tim. 3:5 holding the form of religion but denying the power of it. Avoid such people. 6 For among them are those who make their way into households and capture weak women, burdened with sins and swayed by various impulses, 7 who will listen to anybody and can never arrive at a knowledge of the truth.​

And lacking knowledge, they RUN from any Challenge. But personally, I RUN TOWARD A CHALLENGE:

2 Tim. 4:2 preach the word, be urgent in season and out of season, convince, rebuke, and exhort, be unfailing in patience and in teaching.​

With Very, VERY Best Regards,
Bobby Jo