When Jesus Came out the Grave, he was Born Again.

[Bladerunner]

I would offer you that the oneness with God that Jesus was referring to has nothing to do with Jesus actually being God himself, but rather unity.

Jesus commented on this same oneness in John 17:20-23, praying that his disciples would have the same oneness with God that he does and with one another so they may be brought to complete unity. They're on the same team, fighting the same fight, but none of them are the same person as each other or God. I hope that makes sense.

John 17 (NIV)
20“My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— 23I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.

so you believe as a pharisee?

 

[Runningman]

so you believe as a pharisee?

As far as Jewish theology goes, Jesus was himself of the Pharisaic tradition who didn't believe the Messiah would be God. All of Jesus' teachings are compatible with the Pharisaic tradition in Jewish theology. Virtually all scholars I've read agree with that as well.

So I agree with the Pharisees to the extent that Jesus himself agreed with the Pharisees on, but your question seems to not follow from any thing I just said, but in the context it seems you think the Pharisees were wrong for not believing Jesus is God even when Jesus himself clearly didn't believe he is God.

Can you clarify what Jesus said that made you think otherwise?

 

[marks]

An extremist view of Christ..Jesus created the universe is a nonsense gnostic style view.

Try again...
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It's orthodox Christianity, Biblical Christianity.

If I didn't know better I'd think you were playing with me! The reality seems far worse!

Much love!

 

[bro.tan]

Thank you for your comments, but I would offer you that in the preceding verses, Jesus identified who the Father as the only God. So whether or not Jesus literally pre-existed in some form or another prior to a being a man doesn't necessarily mean that he would have pre-existed as God before the world was created unless you are proposing that Jesus is an incarnation of the Father in the modalist's sense of the word.

Peter astutely did point out that Jesus is the Messiah and Son of the Living God, confirmed by Jesus as being great answer it seems. So I would be inclined to go with what Peter said when identifying Jesus rather than what Thomas said.

The difference between the two is Peter believe much before the time of Jesus resurrection who Jesus was and where he came from. On the other hand it took Jesus to die and resurrect for Thomas to believe. Even today people don't believe who Jesus was before he came in the flesh, this why Jesus says in John 20: 29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

 

[Runningman]

The difference between the two is Peter believe much before the time of Jesus resurrection who Jesus was and where he came from. On the other hand it took Jesus to die and resurrect for Thomas to believe. Even today people don't believe who Jesus was before he came in the flesh, this why Jesus says in John 20: 29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

The rest of the Bible pretty much echoes what Peter said in regards to Jesus being the Son of God. The Bible is quite consistent about it. I don't believe "Son of God" means someone is God though I can understand why someone would come to that conclusion. This was actually one of the reasons for the council of Nicaea. The Arians could have their cake and the Trinitarians could have their cake. The Bible has just vague enough to go several different directions on theology. Christianity is quite diverse.

 

[GISMYS_7]

All threw Christian dome brothers and sisters we hear the term born again. You will hear people in the churches, on the street, at work, even in jail, making the statement, "since I have been born again. For those who have any knowledge in the word (Holy Scriptures) will understand that this just isn’t the case, because born again is a change in the body not in the mind. Now Paul says in Romans 12: 1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Now this is a pretty simple lesson brother and sisters, pay close attention to what’s being said.

Now, Let’s jump right in a conversation that Jesus was having with a man name Nicodemus. John 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Notice verse 3, except a man is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. We have just learned something here. If you are not born again you can not see the kingdom of God. As we go further you will understand this. Remember there is a time for everything.

Nicodemus asked a very good question. Take a look at the next set of verses.

John 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

In verse 5, born of the water in this case is the Word of God. Notice the Lord mentions the kingdom of God again, but He adds a little more information. He says "Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. When he mentions spirit He means exactly that. Watch how the Lord gives something physical to describe exactly what He means.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Notice: He made a difference between flesh and spirit. Ask yourself that question, was you born flesh or spirit?

John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Notice: He compared the wind to a spirit. Can you see the wind? No! We have seen things being blown around by the wind, but we have never seen the wind. If you are born of the spirit you are like the wind. This is when you are truly born again, when you are born of the spirit.

Notice: what Jesus does in these next few verses. Remember, this is after His resurrection.

John 20:26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Note two very important things within these verses. 1. Jesus appeared in the midst of them and the doors were shut. 2. Thomas called Him God. When Jesus came out of the grave he was born into the God family, Jesus was Born Again.

Jesus=God never had any need to be born again. THINK!!

 

[bro.tan]

Jesus=God never had any need to be born again. THINK!!

According to word of God, Jesus had to be born again and so will you in the resurrection. But its sad because you probably steep in Roman Christianity so your mind is stuck with that doctrine. Because it uphold man's traditional holidays and pagan days (Sunday the 1st day as the Sabbath, Christmas, Easter and Halloween), but few are obeying God's Holy Days (Saturday the 7th day Sabbath, the Passover, Pentecost, etc...Leviticus 23:1-44). So you have to think!!!! How can a person get the mind of Christ and not do things of Christ? Christ didn't any of that nor the prophets and apostles. Thats why you can't understand that conversation with Nicodemus.

 

[Bladerunner]

According to word of God, Jesus had to be born again and so will you in the resurrection. But its sad because you probably steep in Roman Christianity so your mind is stuck with that doctrine. Because it uphold man's traditional holidays and pagan days (Sunday the 1st day as the Sabbath, Christmas, Easter and Halloween), but few are obeying God's Holy Days (Saturday the 7th day Sabbath, the Passover, Pentecost, etc...Leviticus 23:1-44). So you have to think!!!! How can a person get the mind of Christ and not do things of Christ? Christ didn't any of that nor the prophets and apostles. Thats why you can't understand that conversation with Nicodemus.

show me where it says Jesus had to reborn again and that He is not GOD.

 

[Runningman]

show me where it says Jesus had to reborn again and that He is not GOD.

That's one of the interesting things about the Bible. While I believe everything in its proper context has no contradictions, there are a lot of ideas that must be measured out in moderation.

For example, Jesus said not to judge others or else one will be judged by that same standard, while on the other hand he told the 12 disciples (Judas, of all people, included, it seems) they will sit on the 12 thrones and judge the tribes of Israel and inherit eternal life. People fell down and worshipped Jesus (whether in the sense of being God or not is debatable) yet his only teaching on worship was about it being to the Father in John 4. People seemed to think Jesus was a man, while on the one hand he said a lot of things that could possibly be interpreted as a claim to deity. Just when we thought we had him figured out, he went off and called the to to whom the word of God came, gods (elohim) themselves in John 10. He's the way, truth, life, and the son of man who descended from heaven, yet it's not crystal clear since he never said or did anything in any obvious words or actions in the Old Testament. He's the light of the world, yet he told his disciples they are also the light of the world in John 5. Never sinned, but was tempted in all ways as we are. He walked on water, Peter walked on water (at least a little bit) and even though he sat down at the right hand of God, was given all power in heaven and earth, he said others will do greater works than him, and just when we think that settles it, Jesus went off and said those who overcome will sit on his throne with him in Revelation 3... the same throne that's at the right hand of God.

Jesus is possibly what is obtainable and the example of what we can be. I think most people shy away from this because it seems like Jesus was a superman and impervious to whatever he wanted to be impervious to, yet seemed to let his guard down completely instead of summoning 12 legions of angels from his Father. Perhaps Jesus could have conquered the world if he wanted to. Not only could he have did that, but perhaps he was actually tempted to seize that earthly power. We already know what one did to 185K soldiers in one day. What would 12 legions do. I guess we will never really know, at least in this life.

 

[Bladerunner]

That's one of the interesting things about the Bible. While I believe everything in its proper context has no contradictions, there are a lot of ideas that must be measured out in moderation.

For example, Jesus said not to judge others or else one will be judged by that same standard, while on the other hand he told the 12 disciples (Judas, of all people, included, it seems) they will sit on the 12 thrones and judge the tribes of Israel and inherit eternal life. People fell down and worshipped Jesus (whether in the sense of being God or not is debatable) yet his only teaching on worship was about it being to the Father in John 4. People seemed to think Jesus was a man, while on the one hand he said a lot of things that could possibly be interpreted as a claim to deity. Just when we thought we had him figured out, he went off and called the to to whom the word of God came, gods (elohim) themselves in John 10. He's the way, truth, life, and the son of man who descended from heaven, yet it's not crystal clear since he never said or did anything in any obvious words or actions in the Old Testament. He's the light of the world, yet he told his disciples they are also the light of the world in John 5. Never sinned, but was tempted in all ways as we are. He walked on water, Peter walked on water (at least a little bit) and even though he sat down at the right hand of God, was given all power in heaven and earth, he said others will do greater works than him, and just when we think that settles it, Jesus went off and said those who overcome will sit on his throne with him in Revelation 3... the same throne that's at the right hand of God.

Jesus is possibly what is obtainable and the example of what we can be. I think most people shy away from this because it seems like Jesus was a superman and impervious to whatever he wanted to be impervious to, yet seemed to let his guard down completely instead of summoning 12 legions of angels from his Father. Perhaps Jesus could have conquered the world if he wanted to. Not only could he have did that, but perhaps he was actually tempted to seize that earthly power. We already know what one did to 185K soldiers in one day. What would 12 legions do. I guess we will never really know, at least in this life.y

Are you telling me the story of the Bible you made up or was brainwashed with it...The reformed/covenmental theology allegorizes the Bible to make it say what they want it to say. This bad pooh for in many cases, they actually call GOD a liar. Not a good way to get to heaven.

 

[bro.tan]

show me where it says Jesus had to reborn again and that He is not GOD.

I see the that spirit coming in to play, but the things is, if you can't understand the conversation Jesus is having with Nicodemus in John 3rd Ch, you are going to turn everything around to be something else that I post. Even though Paul said something similar to what you just post, but not quite like that. Let's go and take a look at what Paul says in I Corinthians 15: 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. 49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. 50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

Look at verse 50, notice what it says "flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God". Remembers Jesus said something similar to this in John chapter 3. Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. This is the Fathers Kingdom, which Jesus spoke of. But during the Lord's thousand-year reign with the saint, flesh and blood beings will still be on the earth along with spirit beings. There will be only spirit beings after the second resurrection. Remember what Nicodemus asked the Lord? He asked Him, " how could a man be born again when he was already old?" And the Lord answered by saying, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.” In order for you to be born again you must be changed into a spiritual body.

Even Peter understood this, let's go to 1 Peter1: 23 being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

 

[Bladerunner]

I see the that spirit coming in to play, but the things is, if you can't understand the conversation Jesus is having with Nicodemus in John 3rd Ch, you are going to turn everything around to be something else that I post. Even though Paul said something similar to what you just post, but not quite like that. Let's go and take a look at what Paul says in I Corinthians 15: 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual bod

there are three bodies Natural(made of Clay), Soul and the Spirit. The scripture is only mentioning two of these three.

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.u

I suspect Adam and Eve were clothed in light until the fall. Yet the first man was also made from the clay of the earth. Jesus was fully God and Fully Man.

47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. 49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

for we all bear the image of the first Adam and those who have faith in the second Adam will bear the image of Him.

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

Look at verse 50, notice what it says "flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God". Remembers Jesus said something similar to this in John chapter 3. Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. This is the Fathers Kingdom, which Jesus spoke of. But during the Lord's thousand-year reign with the saint, flesh and blood beings will still be on the earth along with spirit beings.

agree to this point.

There will be only spirit beings after the second resurrection. Remember what Nicodemus asked the Lord? He asked Him, " how could a man be born again when he was already old?" And the Lord answered by saying, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.” In order for you to be born again you must be changed into a spiritual body.

First of all, Nicodemus was of the Sadducees and knew what Jesus was meaning...to put it lightly, when you are born again, you are Justified by GOD....and you will receive the this: "
"Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh."
Your spirit will be among those in Paradise (heaven waiting area)while your body and soul will still be here on earth awaiting the Rapture or death. which ever comes first, you still get to be with Jesus Christ.

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Even Peter understood this, let's go to 1 Peter1: 23 being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever

agree wholeheartedly...Your soul is born again, for your body is still incorruptible.
We here on earth who are truly saved, are awaiting the Rapture or Death..We win either way.

 

[bro.tan]

there are three bodies Natural(made of Clay), Soul and the Spirit. The scripture is only mentioning two of these three.

I suspect Adam and Eve were clothed in light until the fall. Yet the first man was also made from the clay of the earth. Jesus was fully God and Fully Man.

for we all bear the image of the first Adam and those who have faith in the second Adam will bear the image of Him.

agree to this point.

First of all, Nicodemus was of the Sadducees and knew what Jesus was meaning...to put it lightly, when you are born again, you are Justified by GOD....and you will receive the this: "
"Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh."
Your spirit will be among those in Paradise (heaven waiting area)while your body and soul will still be here on earth awaiting the Rapture or death. which ever comes first, you still get to be with Jesus Christ.

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That's not the conversation, the first thing Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. (John 3:3) Jesus is talking about the Father kingdom here, see this goes right over people's head like a bullet. But if you steep into Roman Christianity teaching then you can't see this.

agree wholeheartedly...Your soul is born again, for your body is still incorruptible.
We here on earth who are truly saved, are awaiting the Rapture or Death..We win either way.

Just as you freely accepted Jesus in your life you can also freely choose to stop serving him. Jesus said with his own mouth; (Matt. 24:13) But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. That is until the end of your life, or until the Second Coming of the Lord.

 

[Bladerunner]

That's not the conversation, the first thing Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. (John 3:3) Jesus is talking about the Father kingdom here, see this goes right over people's head like a bullet. But if you steep into Roman Christianity teaching then you can't see this.




Just as you freely accepted Jesus in your life you can also freely choose to stop serving him. Jesus said with his own mouth; (Matt. 24:13) But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. That is until the end of your life, or until the Second Coming of the Lord.

you said:"you can also freely choose to stop serving him." No, God chooses whom He Elects...and says so in His WORD...It is there, simply read it....

 

[APAK]

All threw Christian dome brothers and sisters we hear the term born again. You will hear people in the churches, on the street, at work, even in jail, making the statement, "since I have been born again. For those who have any knowledge in the word (Holy Scriptures) will understand that this just isn’t the case, because born again is a change in the body not in the mind. Now Paul says in Romans 12: 1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Now this is a pretty simple lesson brother and sisters, pay close attention to what’s being said.

Now, Let’s jump right in a conversation that Jesus was having with a man name Nicodemus. John 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Notice verse 3, except a man is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. We have just learned something here. If you are not born again you can not see the kingdom of God. As we go further you will understand this. Remember there is a time for everything.

Nicodemus asked a very good question. Take a look at the next set of verses.

John 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

In verse 5, born of the water in this case is the Word of God. Notice the Lord mentions the kingdom of God again, but He adds a little more information. He says "Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. When he mentions spirit He means exactly that. Watch how the Lord gives something physical to describe exactly what He means.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Notice: He made a difference between flesh and spirit. Ask yourself that question, was you born flesh or spirit?

John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Notice: He compared the wind to a spirit. Can you see the wind? No! We have seen things being blown around by the wind, but we have never seen the wind. If you are born of the spirit you are like the wind. This is when you are truly born again, when you are born of the spirit.

Notice: what Jesus does in these next few verses. Remember, this is after His resurrection.

John 20:26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Note two very important things within these verses. 1. Jesus appeared in the midst of them and the doors were shut. 2. Thomas called Him God. When Jesus came out of the grave he was born into the God family, Jesus was Born Again.

Have you ever thought and seriously considered that Jesus became reborn in the Spirit of God, his Father by the time of his birth?

And then at his resurrection, by the power of his Father, realized the fruits of his rebirth as the firstborn from the death (human death).

 

[CTK]

Have you ever thought and seriously considered that Jesus became reborn in the Spirit of God, his Father by the time of his birth?

And then at his resurrection, by the power of his Father, realized the fruits of his rebirth as the firstborn from the death (human death).

How about this:

1) He was born as a man - just like us,
2) He received the Holy Spirit on the first day of the 70th week when He was baptized by John and “anointed by His Father” - and just like us, we have to receive the Holy Spirit for salvation,
3) He physically died- just as we will,
4) He was resurrected with an immortal body by God - just as we will be at the time of the end.

 

[Runningman]

The reformed/covenmental theology allegorizes the Bible to make it say what they want it to say. This bad pooh for in many cases, they actually call GOD a liar. Not a good way to get to heaven.

While I am not a Calvinist, stripping the Bible of any possible allegory and taking it completely literal results in a lot of interesting things. Is your perspective on the Bible to be literal about it all?

 

[Bladerunner]

While I am not a Calvinist, stripping the Bible of any possible allegory and taking it completely literal results in a lot of interesting things. Is your perspective on the Bible to be literal about it all?

No, the Bible tells you what it is: Songs of Solomon...Songs of Psalms, Poems, and even a 5 part Play.
There is also the Historical side...time and dates that can be confirmed but Man's History of the past. and of course the grammatical writings..The Bible uses languages of the times for the setting of each chapter. (i.e. Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew.) As in Daniel 1 is has the Hebrew flavor to it and Chapters 2 thru 7 were written in Aramaic. Chapters 1-6 are Historical and chapters 7-12 are visions of Daniel. Like the story of the Rich Man and Lazarus, (no, not a parable), it tells us of our surroundings and times to comes...We either get ready or not.

 

[APAK]

How about this:

1) He was born as a man - just like us,
2) He received the Holy Spirit on the first day of the 70th week when He was baptized by John and “anointed by His Father” - and just like us, we have to receive the Holy Spirit for salvation,
3) He physically died- just as we will,
4) He was resurrected with an immortal body by God - just as we will be at the time of the end.

CTK: I disagree slightly with your point 2. He received his Father's Spirit prior to and by his birth, and received more of his Father's Spirit (more power) upon his baptism tp perform his mission and ministry.

In spirit though I agree with you....great Day!

You could say that Jesus was the very 1st born-again human believer in his Father, God.

 

[Bladerunner]

How about this:

1) He was born as a man - just like us,

Yes He was "fully man" and "fully GOD"

2) He received the Holy Spirit on the first day of the 70th week when He was baptized by John and “anointed by His Father” - and just like us, we have to receive the Holy Spirit for salvation,

John was washing the Jewish people to cleanse them of their filth and idols....Jesus Baptized them removing their sins. Notice that Jesus did not receive the Holy Spirit within Him for He was already GOD....Daniel's 70th week has not happened yet at this point...Neither had the 69 week of years happen.......This event was about 3 years early.

3) He physically died- just as we will,

His Human Body was crucified, buried and resurrected on the fourth day. The resurrection brought His eternal soul and newly transfigured body together forever as you have said.

4) He was resurrected with an immortal body by God - just as we will be at the time of the end.

Agree