When Jesus Came out the Grave, he was Born Again.

[bro.tan]

You’re not making any point. That’s why I don’t see it. A quickening spirit quickens things. We are not quickeners. Jesus is the quickener. I think you’re reading into the verse something that’s not there.

Jesus says in Matthew 13: 14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith,
By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; And seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, And their ears are dull of hearing,
And their eyes they have closed; Lest at any time they should see with their eyes,
And hear with their ears, And should understand with their heart, And should be converted, and I should heal them.

 

[Truther]

Jesus says in Matthew 13: 14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith,
By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; And seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, And their ears are dull of hearing,
And their eyes they have closed; Lest at any time they should see with their eyes,
And hear with their ears, And should understand with their heart, And should be converted, and I should heal them.

Because I say that we are not made quickening spirits, quickening the dead by our spirits then I am deaf and blind?

 

[Bladerunner]

You might say, Jesus “evolved” into an omnipresent body after his God resurrected him from the dead.

I don't think you understand. Jesus was fully man and He also was fully GOD! Look to Rev 4-5 and see how Jesus is seen by others at the throne room of GOD.

 

[Truther]

I don't think you understand. Jesus was fully man and He also was fully GOD! Look to Rev 4-5 and see how Jesus is seen by others at the throne room of GOD.

When Jesus was a full grown man on earth, he told the woman at the well per John 4:24 that God is a Spirit … Him… Him…
You should’ve told God that God is fully man. Jesus described God as a Spirit.
Your statement directly contradicts Jesus. That must be the Catholicism rising up in your heart.

 

[wooddog]

Yes,, but he was made a quickening spirit after he was resurrected by God. None of us were made a quickening spirit. We don’t quicken anything. We are quickened.

When are we quickened?

 

[Truther]

When are we quickened?

At the catching away per 1 Cor 15

 

[bro.tan]

Because I say that we are not made quickening spirits, quickening the dead by our spirits then I am deaf and blind?

There's two ways of becoming quickening the Bible teaches. Can you explain those two with scriptures and or verses?

 

[wooddog]

At the catching away per 1 Cor 15

Right, at verse 36 when we die in the flesh.

 

[Bladerunner]

When Jesus was a full grown man on earth, he told the woman at the well per John 4:24 that God is a Spirit … Him… Him…
You should’ve told God that God is fully man. Jesus described God as a Spirit.
Your statement directly contradicts Jesus. That must be the Catholicism rising up in your heart.

Yet GOD wrestled with Jacob as a man.......Jesus was born of a human woman. Like you and I were...that is unless you were born out of a test tube of the future. Yes the Body of GOD is spirit in nature, Light. As God can do anything, then yes, He was fully GOD and fully man at the same time and who are you to doubt it..

 

[Truther]

There's two ways of becoming quickening the Bible teaches. Can you explain those two with scriptures and or verses?

We are quickened by the Holy Ghost. We are not quicken-ing spirits. You know the difference, correct?

 

[Truther]

Right, at verse 36 when we die in the flesh.

Some will not have to die. Some will be caught up and go from mortality straight to everlasting life. We will be quickened with the dead Saints. I hope I’m one of them.

 

[Truther]

Yet GOD wrestled with Jacob as a man.......Jesus was born of a human woman. Like you and I were...that is unless you were born out of a test tube of the future. Yes the Body of GOD is spirit in nature, Light. As God can do anything, then yes, He was fully GOD and fully man at the same time and who are you to doubt it..

Jesus, Mary’s son, was existing from the beginning of the world. As a matter of fact. Adam was created in the image of the man Christ Jesus. God knew his son and made everything by for and through him. How can this be? God transcends time.

 

[bro.tan]

We are quickened by the Holy Ghost. We are not quicken-ing spirits. You know the difference, correct?

That's not a humble response, after I ask you to explain. No need to keep going around in circles you got all the answers.

 

[Bladerunner]

We are quickened by the Holy Ghost. We are not quicken-ing spirits. You know the difference, correct?

I along with all the true believers were quickened by the Holy Spirit so that in reality we are quickening Spirits.

In other words, The Holy Spirit brought us back to life from the dead to the point that our Spirit live in the word of Jesus Christ.

One might argue being dead one should be in the grave...Yet,the Lord tells us we are all "dead in Sins" at birth..therefore it stands to reason the Holy Spirit brings us back from that death that was placed upon us (true believers). Yes we are living spirits in His Church awaiting for His arrival in the clouds to take us HOME.

Have a great evening Truther....

 

[Truther]

That's not a humble response, after I ask you to explain. No need to keep going around in circles you got all the answers.

There is a quickener and a quickenee. That’s two different people. We are the quickenee , and God is the quickener .

 

[Truther]

I along with all the true believers were quickened by the Holy Spirit so that in reality we are quickening Spirits.

In other words, The Holy Spirit brought us back to life from the dead to the point that our Spirit live in the word of Jesus Christ.

One might argue being dead one should be in the grave...Yet,the Lord tells us we are all "dead in Sins" at birth..therefore it stands to reason the Holy Spirit brings us back from that death that was placed upon us (true believers). Yes we are living spirits in His Church awaiting for His arrival in the clouds to take us HOME.

Have a great evening Truther....

We are not quickening spirits. Only Jesus is a quickening spirit. He’s the only one that is called a quickening spirit. You are trying to take Jesus’ place of raising people from the dead. It’ll never work. You can’t even raise yourself from the dead. Much less others.

 

[Bladerunner]

We are not quickening spirits. Only Jesus is a quickening spirit. He’s the only one that is called a quickening spirit.

what is the word Quickening mean to you or a simply definition is ok.....a Hint: "Alive"

You are trying to take Jesus’ place of raising people from the dead. It’ll never work. You can’t even raise yourself from the dead. Much less others.

I don't quicken anyone spirit. will leave that to the Holy Spirit....Bring their spirit within them back from the dead....By that I mean...they are dead in their sins. and this is Biblical.

 

[Truther]

what is the word Quickening mean to you or a simply definition is ok.....a Hint: "Alive"

I don't quicken anyone spirit. will leave that to the Holy Spirit....Bring their spirit within them back from the dead....By that I mean...they are dead in their sins. and this is Biblical.

…ing is the point.

Quicken…ing is a process of making someone alive.

We cannot control the process.

 

[bro.tan]

There is a quickener and a quickenee. That’s two different people. We are the quickenee , and God is the quickener .

I would like to see a verse or scripture please, to go with what you saying.

 

[Truther]

I would like to see a verse or scripture please, to go with what you saying.

You want a verse in the Bible that says we raise the dead? I can show you one that says we are raised from the dead by another entity, but not one that says we raise the dead.