What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

[Behold]

I have posted what I believe and for some reason you are desperately trying to figure it out in your head.

Actually, what i do with you, is i respond to your strange theology that is partly Calvin and partly made up invention.
I long ago realized that you are beyond hearing, as Marks, and Eternally Grateful, and most recently, God's Grace, and of course, me first of all, have talked to you in hundreds of posts, and you are "stuck on repeat" while you post verses that you can't even understand.
They seem to have given up, and as for me... i just post against what you post......for the sake of any new believer who might find your odd statements, and believe them.

I don’t believe you understand the spiritual rebirth ,

Spiritual rebirth is when the Holy Spirit of God, birth's the Believer's spirit into the Holy Spirit of God.

This is to become born again... ."in Christ" as "one with God".

Ive told you this about 40 times.
And the first time should have been enough.

I pray for your heart as I see a bitter spirit, when you talk at times.

You like to try to sound spiritual, and that is not a good quality..
Even saying you "see" something about me, is you pretending you have this ability.
So, the other one on the forum who pretends this nonsense, is CharismaticLady.... so, its not a good situation.

Im never bitter.
But it is frustrating to watch false and sometimes crazy theology, be allowed to continue to flourish, on Christian forums.
This should never be found, yet, it is the standard, and that insults the word "Christian" in the title.....every single day.

 

[Ritajanice]

C

Actually, what i do with you, is i respond to your strange theology that is partly Calvin and partly made up invention.
I long ago realized that you are beyond hearing, as Marks, and Eternally Grateful, and most recently, God's Grace, and of course, me first of all, have talked to you in hundreds of posts, and you are "stuck on repeat" while you post verses that you can't even understand.
They seem to have given up, and as for me... i just post against what you post......for the sake of any new believer who might find your odd statements, and believe them.



Spiritual rebirth is when the Holy Spirit of God, birth's the Believer's spirit into the Holy Spirit of God.

This is to become born again... ."in Christ" as "one with God".

Ive told you this about 40 times.
And the first time should have been enough.




You like to try to sound spiritual, and that is not a good quality..
Even saying you "see" something about me, is you pretending you have this ability.
So, the other one on the forum who pretends this nonsense, is CharismaticLady.... so, its not a good situation.

Im never bitter.
But it is frustrating to watch false and sometimes crazy theology, be allowed to continue to flourish, on Christian forums.
This should never be found, yet, it is the standard, and that insults the word "Christian" in the title.....every single day.

crazy to you, spiritual to me, I love being bathed in the Living word of God.

Good day and God Bless.

 

[Behold]

C

crazy to you, spiritual to me,

We are agreed, except what you share here.....on the forum, regarding your "how God caused me to believe"... is not just crazy to me.
I listed a few others.... who told you the same., and one is even a Catholic.

 

[Ritajanice]

You like to try to sound spiritual, and that is not a good quality..

When I talk it comes from within my spirit, the Holy Spirit speaks through me, my belief/ my opinion.

Nothing to do with quality, I’m just being obedient to the prompting of the Living Holy Spirit and will always be 100% obedient to his promptings and when he chooses to speak through me.

All Glory,Honour is yours Lord, Praise your Living Holy Name, In Jesus Name..Amen!

 

[Behold]

When I talk it comes from within my spirit, the Holy Spirit speaks through me, my belief/ my opinion.

The Holy Spirit would never lead you to try to prove Calvinism.

Calvinism is a Satanic Lie.

Nothing to do with quality, I’m just being obedient to the prompting of the Living Holy Spirit and will always be 100% obedient to his promptings and when he chooses to speak through me.

The Holy Spirit will never speak Calvinism through anyone.......Including John Calvin.

So, that's how you can begin to understand, what is going on in you.

 

[Ritajanice]

◄ Ephesians 5 ►

Berean Standard Bible Par ▾ Imitators of God 1Be imitators of God, therefore, as beloved children, 2and walk in love, just as Christ loved usa and gave Himself up for us as a fragrant sacrificial offering to God. 3But among you, as is proper among the saints, there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed. 4Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk, or crude joking, which are out of character, but rather thanksgiving. 5For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure, or greedy person (that is, an idolater), has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. 6Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things the wrath of God is coming on the sons of disobedience. 7Therefore do not be partakers with them. Children of Light 8For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light, 9for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness, and truth. 10Test and prove what pleases the Lord. 11Have no fellowship with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. 12For it is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret.13But everything exposed by the light becomes visible,b for everything that is illuminated becomes a light itself. 14So it is said: “Wake up, O sleeper, rise up from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.” 15Pay careful attention, then, to how you walk, not as unwise but as wise,16redeeming the time, because the days are evil. 17Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord’s will is. 18Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to reckless indiscretion. Instead, be filled with the Spirit. 19Speak to one another with psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs. Sing and make music in your hearts to the Lord, 20always giving thanks to God the Father for everything in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Behold]

What is the "initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit"?

Here are : 8

1.) You're born again, and can never go to Hell.

2.) "Christ in you, the Hope of Glory"

3.) You are now eternally , '"in Christ".

4.) You are eternally "One with God"

5.) You have "passed from death to Life".....having been "translated from Darkness.. to Light".

6.) You eternally now have "Eternal Life".

7.) You have eternally become "The Temple of the Holy Spirit"

8.) God has become your Eternal Heavenly Father

 

[Behold]

To say that there are few that find it means that few of all those who seek it actually find it.

Everyone is looking for something, all the time. @St. SteVen

This world is one big "search index"., because the "god of this world" has designed it to be so., and His game is....

"let me keep you away from what God wants you to see, to know".

"i will hide it from you, by showing you everything else".

So, everyone is looking.. everyone is searching....so, in THAT context.. . its "few that find the truth".

And once you find it.. The Devil will try to deceive you out of it... with cults, and theological ideas that seem like.. that sound like truth.

 

[Behold]

No , that is your own testimony,

No, its Paul's Gospel.

"all who believe, shall be saved".......not "All who are given faith to believe"..

See, Calvinism, strips the believer of Faith, by teaching that God causes them to have it.

That's (one) of the lies of Calvinism., that you promote over and over.., as does Brightframe and Ronald Nolette.

Thats what Calvinist's do.
Its what they FEEL INSIDE they are suppose to do.

 

[Ritajanice]

The initial evidence is that one’s spirit has become Born Again by Gods Living Witness His Living Holy Spirit.

You only have to know the name of Jesus....you don’t have to know anything about the cross, plus you can’t believe or understand anything about the cross, not until your spirit is Born Again, then Gods witness His Living Holy Spirit witnesses that truth to our spirit/heart.

You can read about the cross in the Bible m but, to truly understand the significance of the cross, one must have their spirit birthed, only then has one knowledge of God.

 

[Ritajanice]

No, its Paul's Gospel.

"all who believe, shall be saved".......not "All who are given faith to believe"..

See, Calvinism, strips the believer of Faith, by teaching that God causes them to have it.

That's the lie of Calvinism., that you promote over and over..

Your testimony is not Paul’s testimony.

The gospel does not birth your spirit..neither does hearing the gospel.

It’s because of the gospel that one can become Born Of The Spirit.

No one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit, you need God’s witness who births our spirit into His to even understand the good news of the gospel.

The Spirit testifies all about the gospel to our heart/ spirit, we know nothing of God not until our spirit has been birthed.

 

[Behold]

Your testimony is not Paul’s testimony.

My Testimony" is Grace through Faith, that is Paul's Gospel.

That is....>Paul teaching that our "faith" is counted by God" as (Christ's) Righteousness".. .. provided on our Behalf, because we gave God what He requires of Us.

= OUR FAITH.. In Christ.

 

[Behold]

You only have to know the name of Jesus...

Nonsense.

If you only "know the name of Jesus" then you dont understand why Jesus died on the Cross for you.

So, in that case a person would not know that Jesus died for their sin, is their Savior.......

And that is what you want to pretend is "the Gospel"?
So, now, you sound like Episkopos, as His False Gospel also has No CROSS IN IT.

But im sure you will correct that now........ @Ritajanice .


See, if there is no CROSS then there is NO SALVATION...

Paul said, "we preach CHRIST CRUCIFIED".. "as the preaching of THE CROSS........is the power of God, unto Salvation".

""""""For the Preaching of the Cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.""""

YOU don't agree... @Ritajanice .........and you just proved it again.

Now come and change all your words again... and i'll keep "Preaching the Cross"...over and over.. Just as Paul did.. just as all real Christians understand to do.

 

[Ritajanice]

My Testimony" is Grace through Faith, that is Paul's Gospel.

That is....>Paul teaching that our "faith" is counted by God" as (Christ's) Righteousness".. .. provided on our Behalf, because we gave God what He requires of Us.

= OUR FAITH.. In Christ.

You have no faith in Christ , not until our spirit is Born Again..you are not in the righteousness of Christ and you certainly don’t know who Christ , not until you have been gifted faith by God, once your spirit is Born Again, only then can you walk in faith as we know God in our spirit, there is where the indwelling Living Holy Spirit witnesses Gods truth to our heart /spirit.

 

[Webers_Home]

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is attributing the work of God to the devil.

That particular sin has to be deliberate rather than the result of an honest
mistake; for example:

"Then they brought him a demon-possessed man who was blind and mute,
and Jesus healed him, so that he could both talk and see. All the people
were astonished and said: Could this be the Son of David?

. . But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, "It is only by Beelzebub, the
prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons." (Matt 12:22-24)

Some of the Pharisees were not only fully aware that Jesus was a God-send,
but they were also convinced of it.

"Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a member of the
Jewish ruling council. He came to Jesus at night and said: Rabbi, we know
you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the
miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him." (John 3:1-2)

So their remark about Beelzebug was a deliberate attempt to undermine
Jesus' credibility and get the people to believing he was a sorcerer. In point
of fact, according to Matt 12:14 their attempt was premeditated.

NOTE: The Pharisees were highly respected in their communities. No doubt
quite a few people believed them as they went about associating Jesus with
paranormal activity.

You know; I can almost forgive highly respected entertainers and athletes
for stooping to slander in the dirty world of politics, but it is nigh unto
impossible for me to forgive spiritual big wigs for talking advantage of the
public's trust in the world of religion.
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[Behold]

You have no faith in Christ , not until our spirit is Born Again..

You are teaching that God saves the person, before they give God their Faith in Christ.

Paul Teaches that You give your faith in Christ to God first.... so that God accepts it... to then save you.

Your teaching is the opposite of The Gospel.. its a Backwards Gospel that is Hyper Calvinism, and if of the devil.

@Ritajanice .. this is your gospel that you have posted again, and again... Galatians 1:8

 

[Ritajanice]

Nonsense.

If you only "know the name of Jesus" then you dont understand why Jesus died on the Cross for you.

So, in that case a person would not know that Jesus died for their sin, is their Savior.......

And that is what you want to pretend is "the Gospel"?
So, now, you sound like Episkopos, as His False Gospel also has No CROSS IN IT.

But im sure you will correct that now........ @Ritajanice .


See, if there is no CROSS then there is NO SALVATION...

Paul said, "we preach CHRIST CRUCIFIED".. "as the preaching of THE CROSS........is the power of God, unto Salvation".

YOU don't agree... @Ritajanice .........and you just proved it again.

Now come and change all your words again...

No, it’s not nonsense,God draws us to Jesus , God brings us to repentance / Godly sorrow, God brings us to initially believe in Jesus, ..you do not need to read about any gospel or good news to be birthed by the Spirit.

God wills the birth via his Holy Spirit, man has no say in the spiritual rebirth , they were chosen and predestined to become Born Of The Spirit.

 

[Behold]

No, it’s not nonsense,God draws us to Jesus

Being Drawn to Christ.. is not being made to believe by "supernatural faith", that is your odd belief.

Being Drawnt to Christ.. is being shown Who to believe in.. so that YOU put YOUR FAITH, in Christ.
Its the HS who shows you..
This is the NT, teaching that you '"come to the knowledge of the Truth"... .. and then YOU decide if you put your faith in Christ, who is "THE TRUTH".

Some do.... some wont.

 

[Ritajanice]

You are teaching that God saves the person, before they give God their Faith in Christ.

Paul Teaches that You give your faith in Christ to God first.... so that God accepts it... to then save you.

Your teaching is the opposite of The Gospel.. its a Backwards Gospel that is Hyper Calvinism, and if of the devil.

@Ritajanice .. this is your gospel that you have posted again, and again... Galatians 1:8

You cannot give your faith to God, you have none, not until he gifts us faith to believe in our heart/ spirit, I am preaching the word..not your understanding of the word.

Faith is a gift from God, just as his word says..you have no spiritual knowledge of God , not until he gives us the gift of supernatural faith to believe in our heart/spirit.

 

[Ritajanice]

Being Drawn to Christ.. is not being made to believe by "supernatural faith", that is your odd belief.

Being Drawnt to Christ.. is being shown Who to believe in.. so that YOU put YOUR FAITH, in Christ.
Its the HS who shows you..
This is the NT, teaching that you '"come to the knowledge of the Truth"... .. and then YOU decide if you put your faith in Christ, who is "THE TRUTH".

Some do.... some wont.

Being drawn to Jesus is an act of God ..you cannot believe in Jesus, not until our spirit is birthed.you don’t even know who he is, apart from reading about him in the Bible or stories that we are told about him at school/ home.

He does the choosing he does the birthing via his Spirit, if you have been Born Of The Spirit by divine heart revelation, where the Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children.

You can NEVER not believe that, because we are birthed by the Living Holy Spirit.

All who God chooses to birth will be birthed..no question about it, just as His word says.