What if I don’t want eternal life?

[Reggie Belafonte]

The point being, you are of this world or of the Kingdom of God ?

So if one is of the Kingdom of God then you have life now ? in abundance ! it's a gift ! you recive and give openly regarding the Grace given you.

If one lives of this world ? such a Soul is dead to the Holy Spirit, their for lost. for they do not have Grace !
When such a one dies and is of of this world, then they will be confrounted with the loss that they were ? but could of been, that is Hellfire !

The Bible points out that They may as well put a millstone around their neck and tossed it into the sea ! that's how their Soul will feel, a great loss ! lost in the madness of this world that is full of deceptions and delusions and sadly that's where they were at ! we were all called to be more than that ?

When one is truly born again, then such a one knows that their is a great gulf between this world and the Kingdom of God ! so one who is saved does not want others to be lost ! but Saved !

 

[MA2444]

It seems I am confined, through no choice of my own, to live for eternity, either in heaven or hell. Is it bad that I don’t find that appealing? Certainly no one finds the prospect of hell appealing. The heaven part sounds really nice, but for eternity? If I don’t have a choice, what about my free will? I prefer to die and that be the end of it.

I think it is bad. I think you're being extremely short sighted. You havent even ever seen Heaven yet so how could you possibly say something like that?

1 Corinthians 2:9
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him..../KJV

It is beyond our comprehension and imagination the good things that the Lord has in store for us. That sounds pretty good to me! I have a good imagination and I still dont have a clue how good everything will be! I believe that. Sign me up. I choose life.

 

[Kabone]

There seems to be an assumption that I don’t want to walk the path of god. That’s incorrect.

I search to see if my question is already a topic.

I was on another thread about what it means to ‘perish’. From that perspective, I’m not confined to eternity. I would just cease to exist. I find that very powerful because the choice to follow god is truly a free will choice. Meaning not made to avoid being punished.

 

[Brakelite]

The universe is unbelievably vast, millions of light years from one star to another, with unknown numbers of worlds in between. How could anyone get bored exploring all of that with the stories we have to tell different beings of creation aspects of God love for sinners that they could not possibly imagine.

 

[MA2444]

the choice to follow god is truly a free will choice. Meaning not made to avoid being punished.

Dueteronomy 30:15-20
15 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;

16 In that I command thee this day to love the Lord thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the Lord thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.

17 But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them;

18 I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it.

19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

20 That thou mayest love the Lord thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the Lord sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them..../KJV

You were not made just to avoid being punished. You were made to worship God and to give Him glory. So we seemed to get introduced to death and evil first here on earth...and He wants us to trust Him before He shows us life with Him. From that perspective it should be an easy choice or else you have led a very easy life.

My conclusion is that you simply do not read your Bible enough or pray? Because Faith comes by hearing the word of God.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

It seems I am confined, through no choice of my own, to live for eternity, either in heaven or hell. Is it bad that I don’t find that appealing? Certainly no one finds the prospect of hell appealing. The heaven part sounds really nice, but for eternity? If I don’t have a choice, what about my free will? I prefer to die and that be the end of it.

If you r ARE the one I remember from 10 years ago I will tell you the same thing that I said then.

One of my favorite televangelists use to say... not supported on the bible but his feelings... was that he believed that when one got to heaven that if you had a specific wish... such as wanting a favorite pet with you ... it would happen and I said you need to do whatever to get get there....because if that could even be true... the wish part...and we do not know... then you could petition to be blotted out of existence.

We simply do not know enough about "hell" to risk that by letting God believe you never asked to be here and dont want to be.

I would be more about finding the reason you were put here to begin with....

 

[JohnDB]

There seems to be an assumption that I don’t want to walk the path of god. That’s incorrect.

I search to see if my question is already a topic.

I was on another thread about what it means to ‘perish’. From that perspective, I’m not confined to eternity. I would just cease to exist. I find that very powerful because the choice to follow god is truly a free will choice. Meaning not made to avoid being punished.

I get it...
Living the Christian life and lifestyle is a reward all in itself. Heaven isn't necessary.

And when you think of living for eternity it currently appears to be a form of drudgery to you.

And something that you are not considering is that part of Eternal Life that is really good is not explainable to us. We don't have the understanding or vocabulary to express what it really means...(because we have only lived inside the confines of time)

Let me see if I can get you to understand this part....

God gave humans life so we could live, Christ died and granted us salvation so that us believers could have an even more rich and fulfilling life than others. (

And living an even more rich and fulfilling life in heaven without any pain, suffering or drudgery is what is promised....meaning we won't be bored or tired of life at all. (Tears of sorrow turned into laughing so hard our eyes water)

Bad stuff is removed from heaven. You will lead a productive and interesting life there. It won't include tedium or boredom. (Those things are not allowed in heaven)


Not to mention that nobody who isn't sick wants to die...everyone wants to live just a bit longer.

 

[Kabone]

I get it...
Living the Christian life and lifestyle is a reward all in itself. Heaven isn't necessary.

And when you think of living for eternity it currently appears to be a form of drudgery to you.

And something that you are not considering is that part of Eternal Life that is really good is not explainable to us. We don't have the understanding or vocabulary to express what it really means...(because we have only lived inside the confines of time)

Let me see if I can get you to understand this part....

God gave humans life so we could live, Christ died and granted us salvation so that us believers could have an even more rich and fulfilling life than others. (

And living an even more rich and fulfilling life in heaven without any pain, suffering or drudgery is what is promised....meaning we won't be bored or tired of life at all. (Tears of sorrow turned into laughing so hard our eyes water)

Bad stuff is removed from heaven. You will lead a productive and interesting life there. It won't include tedium or boredom. (Those things are not allowed in heaven)


Not to mention that nobody who isn't sick wants to die...everyone wants to live just a bit longer.

Yes, thank you. I seek righteousness and help others because it’s what Jesus wants me to do. And that’s enough for me. I don’t do it for the promise of heaven.
There’s also a little part of me that’s not quite afraid, just a little apprehensive. Heaven is all joy and love and gummy colas forever. Obviously we’d all be self aware and so I’d be excited to see my grandpa again, whom I love very much. And after searching and searching, I come to the realization that he’s not here. How will I feel?

 

[MA2444]

And something that you are not considering is that part of Eternal Life that is really good is not explainable to us. We don't have the understanding or vocabulary to express what it really means...(because we have only lived inside the confines of time)

Plus the other part of the equation! That in Heaven we will no longer be under any oppression from the enemy and demons and stuff! That's going to make a huge difference in the quality of life!!

I think that when it's all over on earth and said and done that we will have all the answers to our questions and I believe that everyone will be astounded at the sheer amout of Demonic Opppression that we had to live under on earth!

 

[Jack]

Unfortunately some relish the thought of such punishment for those who merely disagreement with their accepted doctrines. Hell is a satanic idea, far from the thoughts of a loving God who only ever offered “life or death” to his human family.…never did he offer humans the choice between heaven and hell.

Are you really saying ChristianityBoard's statement of Faith is Satanic???

"We recognize that these realities are named as heaven and hell. Eternal separation from God occurs in hell."

JW's don't like answering questions.

 

[Kabone]

I am excited about the prospect of just watching the history of the universe. Watching Jesus’ actual sermons. The plight of Joseph and Mary. See what happened to all those planes in the Bermuda Triangle.

 

[MA2444]

I am excited about the prospect of just watching the history of the universe. Watching Jesus’ actual sermons. The plight of Joseph and Mary. See what happened to all those planes in the Bermuda Triangle.

I've watched some cool testimonies online about people who were taken up and shown some different things in Heaven. One lady said she was taken and observed some Angels building a house in Heaven and she said somehow, she just knew that, this was her house the two Angels were working on. And one of the Angels stood up on the roof and yelled to some other construction Angel, I'm running out of building material! And the other Angel yelled back, it should be here anytime! And then some giant vehicle showed up packed to the gills with building materials, and the woman who was watching asked her Tour Guide Angel, What's this all about? And the Angel said, We knew he would run out of building material but because you performed a good deed for someone on earth and helped them (recently), that good deed paid for these new load of building materials for your new house!

I dont know if they was adding a room or a wing? I dont even remember what her good deed was that she helped someone out was. But I think it had the ring of truth to it because it says in scripture, build up your treassuers in heaven...and it also says, Lord when did we give you a cup of water? And He said, When you gave it to one of my children! So there's that...

It also said, Jesus said to the young rich guy, if ye would have treasure in heaven, go sell you have and give to the poor, then thou shalt have treasure in heeaven...(something like that.) No wonder he told the guy that if that's how it works!

I bet our actions of the flesh on earth have profound effect in the spiritual realm of heaven. And knowing God and how He is with His Blessings to us, I bet he grades the reward for good deeds on a sliding scale. I bet one good deed for someone would cancel out 10 times when you walked away without helping.
So that time you changed the old lady's flat tire for her for free? Suddenly you might have a 10 BR mansion instead of a 5 BR?!

So mow that old lady's lawn who is your neighbor.
Help that person at the checkout line who is having difficulty paying.
Go ahead and give the homeless guy lunch money. (Geez, that's $20 nowadays!)
Whatever you can do to help someone. Step up. The actions of what you do in that moment...is like you're doing it for Jesus Himself! Would you help Jesus? I know you would!
So like they say...Just Do It.
We have a LOT to look forward to, and it aint gonna be Boring! Lol!

 

[MA2444]

I bet once we are free of this world and transformed like in the rapture, then we wont be subject to time anymore, right?

So it should be an easy thing to step over to like say...the Creation of the world? !!! I bet we can go there and watch Him do it! And be there, in the moment.

 

[Jericho]

Isn’t heaven the reward for doing god’s work on earth? I have therefore earned my place in heaven by embracing god’s will.

No, that's not how it works. No one earns their way into heaven by works. We only get there by confessing with our mouths and believing in our hearts that Jesus is Lord (Romans 10:19).

Heaven is all joy and love and gummy colas forever.

I think you have a lot of preconceived ideas of what you think heaven is like, and the idea of living for eternity probably sounds boring. I don't think it will be that way at all. All the near-death experiences (NDEs) I've ever heard said that when they were there, they never wanted to leave.

Obviously we’d all be self aware and so I’d be excited to see my grandpa again, whom I love very much. And after searching and searching, I come to the realization that he’s not here. How will I feel?

I heard of an NDE who went to heaven and said when he was in Jesus' presence he wasn't thinking or caring about anyone else, not his mother, not his family, no one. That may be hard for us to fathom, but I think once you there, the joy is so all-encompassing that there's no room for anything else. That would explain how there will be no mourning or crying of the "things passed away". (Rev 21:4)

 

[MA2444]

No, that's not how it works. No one earns their way into heaven by works. We only get there by confessing with our mouths and believing in our hearts that Jesus is Lord (Romans 10:19).



I think you have a lot of preconceived ideas of what you think heaven is like, and the idea of living for eternity probably sounds boring. I don't think it will be that way at all. All the near-death experiences (NDEs) I've ever heard said that when they were there, they never wanted to leave.



I heard of an NDE who went to heaven and said when he was in Jesus' presence he wasn't thinking or caring about anyone else, not his mother, not his family, no one. That may be hard for us to fathom, but I think once you there, the joy is so all-encompassing that there's no room for anything else. That would explain how there will be no mourning or crying of the "things passed away". (Rev 21:4)

I heard one, I can't remember if it was an NDE or she was just taken up in spirit to heaven, but she said her mother had died before her and while she was in heaven she thought about where is her mom? And she learned that her mom had actually not made it and was in hell....but that somehow, she was able to understand why it had to be for God to be a just God. She said she felt bad for her mom but that it did not interfere with her joy at the same time.

FWIW...

 

[quietthinker]

What if I don’t want eternal life?​

Nobody's gonna twist your arm!

 

[Duck Muscles]

It seems I am confined, through no choice of my own, to live for eternity, either in heaven or hell. Is it bad that I don’t find that appealing? Certainly no one finds the prospect of hell appealing. The heaven part sounds really nice, but for eternity? If I don’t have a choice, what about my free will? I prefer to die and that be the end of it.

Pretending to take you seriously for this moment.

You joined a forum filled with members that believe in eternal life do to ask such a question.

The answer within these confines is,like it or not you shall have eternal life in one of two available post life destinations.

That's how it goes according to God.

You have a choice in this life. When it is over you don't. But you're going to one place or the other for all eternity.


Choose wisely.

Or,don't and play the odds and find out.

 

[quietthinker]

Pretending to take you seriously for this moment.

You joined a forum filled with members that believe in eternal life do to ask such a question.

The answer within these confines is,like it or not you shall have eternal life in one of two available post life destinations.

That's how it goes according to God.

You have a choice in this life. When it is over you don't. But you're going to one place or the other for all eternity.


Choose wisely.

Or,don't and play the odds and find out.

'You shall surely die' God said to Adam, if he transgressed. He did not say you will live forever in torment.
A&E were banished from Eden so they did not partake of the Tree of Life and so become everlasting sinners.

If death is our choice, it will be honoured.

Judas received the same gift of healing and raising the dead as did the other disciples yet in the final analysis he chose to kill himself (to die)....nobody twisted his arm. His choice was honoured.

 

[Taken]

What if I don’t want eternal life?

It seems I am confined, through no choice of my own, to live for eternity, either in heaven or hell. Is it bad that I don’t find that appealing? Certainly no one finds the prospect of hell appealing. The heaven part sounds really nice, but for eternity? If I don’t have a choice, what about my free will? I prefer to die and that be the end of it.

God IS JUST…. YOU get to CHOOSE your eternal destiny….WITH God FOREVER….OR…
WithOUT God FOREVER.

God IS MERCIFUL… YOU WANT to CHOOSE, to BE WithOUT God FOREVER?

No Problem. You CAN CHOOSE that.

God IS MERCIFUL….YOU WANT to CHOOSE,
TO NOT LIVE FOREVER?

No Problem. You CAN CHOOSE that.

Human men WHO CHOOSE, to be withOUT God FOREVER……DO NOT, SHALL NOT, WILL NOT, CONTINUE TO LIVE FOREVER

A human man CAN ONLY LIVE “Forever”…
“IF his natural spirit, (born of a mans SEED), is BORN AGAIN, (of the SEED of God).

God IS MERCIFUL…any human man WHO “rejects” God, “rejects” Gods OFFERING of Gods SEED…. Shall NOT, Will NOT, LIVE FOREVER;

His Natural body SHALL die.
….(which its life is its BLOOD)
His Natural spirit SHALL die.
….(which its life is its NATURAL TRUTH)
The Life of his SOUL…
…(which is GODS BREATH), shall return to God.
….AND…AFTER Judgement…IS Sentencing.
….AND SENTENCING….shall be AS the Individual WANTED…

* withOUT God Forever.
* withOUT LIFE Forever.
* Body and Soul Destroyed.
* They Forgotten Forever.

God IS JUST…every individual person SHALL RECEIVE what they WANTED….
Life forever with God.
Lifeless forever withOUT God.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[MA2444]

Pretending to take you seriously for this moment.

You joined a forum filled with members that believe in eternal life do to ask such a question.

The answer within these confines is,like it or not you shall have eternal life in one of two available post life destinations.

That's how it goes according to God.

You have a choice in this life. When it is over you don't. But you're going to one place or the other for all eternity.


Choose wisely.

Or,don't and play the odds and find out.

We do have a choice, and the Lord will ot force this on anyone. Scripture says, I have set before you life and death therefore life is the better choice. But he wont force it on anyone.

And sometimes that's the point where people have said, yeah but I didnt ask to be here...
And I beg to differ on that too. Scripture says He does not change. (Malachi 3:6) so the Lord was already like that and wont change His mind and force you live eternally with Him if you dont want to.

As far as I didnt ask to be here goes...Doesnt scripture say that He knew us before we were in the womb? So if Jesus doesnt force Himself on people and He knew us before we were in the womb...then it stands to reason that He did not force us to be born here, He doesn't change! So we did choose to be here, or, at the very least, we agreed to it.

Just because He gave us all Amnesia when we were born doesnt change the facts, it just means we dont remember doing that! I believe we probably chose our own parents before being conceived.

But if one thinks about it...so if we knew the task set before us at that time, then it also stands to reason that we also knew the reward if we came out of it alive...That must be some big reward to make us want to come to this hellhole!

And again, if you look at scripture, that's exactly what it says, our reward is beyond our (earthly) comprehension. It will be that good. Hang in there Brother! In His strength, we can do this!