What if I don’t want eternal life?

[BlessedPeace]

The universe is unbelievably vast, millions of light years from one star to another, with unknown numbers of worlds in between. How could anyone get bored exploring all of that with the stories we have to tell different beings of creation aspects of God love for sinners that they could not possibly imagine.

I don't think there are sinners on other worlds. Just this one.


The thing is, if someone never hears about Yeshua, they aren't judged later as worthy of Hell. Because they died not knowing they were in need of salvation.


That makes spreading the good news not so good. Because without it people are better off when they die. They never knew they were condemned from birth.

 

[Kabone]

No, that's not how it works. No one earns their way into heaven by works. We only get there by confessing with our mouths and believing in our hearts that Jesus is Lord (Romans 10:19).



I think you have a lot of preconceived ideas of what you think heaven is like, and the idea of living for eternity probably sounds boring. I don't think it will be that way at all. All the near-death experiences (NDEs) I've ever heard said that when they were there, they never wanted to leave.



I heard of an NDE who went to heaven and said when he was in Jesus' presence he wasn't thinking or caring about anyone else, not his mother, not his family, no one. That may be hard for us to fathom, but I think once you there, the joy is so all-encompassing that there's no room for anything else. That would explain how there will be no mourning or crying of the "things passed away". (Rev 21:4

When I wrote about doing god’s work I thought it went without saying I’ve accepted Jesus as my savior. Apologies for the confusion.
I’ve read arguments several ways about what it takes to get into heaven, all backed up with plenty of verses. It’s quite confusing, but I figure if I do it all then I have all the options covered.
Can you double check Roman’s 10:19? Mine doesn’t read like that. Maybe you meant romans 10:9?

 

[Jericho]

Can you double check Roman’s 10:19? Mine doesn’t read like that. Maybe you meant romans 10:9?

Yes, that was a typo. My mistake. Salvation isn't complicated, people make it complicated. Jesus did all the work, we only need to accept the gift.

 

[Brakelite]

I don't think there are sinners on other worlds. Just this one.

I agree. This world is utterly unique due solely to the magnificent grace and love of God manifested in the sacrifice of Jesus. I believe a party of our future will entail sharing that one self sacrificial aspect of God's character that will be unknown and not ever experienced by those who had never sinned, and been forgiven.
As for preaching the gospel. Everyone has sinned. No exceptions. If you deny anyone the opportunity to hear that the Creator of the universe loves them, and died in their place , and that if they repent of their sin and believe, they will never die, you will be held partly responsible for their ultimate demise.
KJV Ezekiel 3:17-18
17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.
18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

 

[BlessedPeace]

I agree. This world is utterly unique due solely to the magnificent grace and love of God manifested in the sacrifice of Jesus. I believe a party of our future will entail sharing that one self sacrificial aspect of God's character that will be unknown and not ever experienced by those who had never sinned, and been forgiven.
As for preaching the gospel. Everyone has sinned. No exceptions. If you deny anyone the opportunity to hear that the Creator of the universe loves them, and died in their place , and that if they repent of their sin and believe, they will never die, you will be held partly responsible for their ultimate demise.
KJV Ezekiel 3:17-18
17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.
18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

If God is just,he cannot damn to Hell anyone who never knew the ultimatum His Gospel affords.

 

[DJT_47]

Too bad. No one has a choice.

 

[Duck Muscles]

We do have a choice, and the Lord will ot force this on anyone. Scripture says, I have set before you life and death therefore life is the better choice. But he wont force it on anyone.

And sometimes that's the point where people have said, yeah but I didnt ask to be here...
And I beg to differ on that too. Scripture says He does not change. (Malachi 3:6) so the Lord was already like that and wont change His mind and force you live eternally with Him if you dont want to.

As far as I didnt ask to be here goes...Doesnt scripture say that He knew us before we were in the womb? So if Jesus doesnt force Himself on people and He knew us before we were in the womb...then it stands to reason that He did not force us to be born here, He doesn't change! So we did choose to be here, or, at the very least, we agreed to it.

Just because He gave us all Amnesia when we were born doesnt change the facts, it just means we dont remember doing that! I believe we probably chose our own parents before being conceived.

But if one thinks about it...so if we knew the task set before us at that time, then it also stands to reason that we also knew the reward if we came out of it alive...That must be some big reward to make us want to come to this hellhole!

And again, if you look at scripture, that's exactly what it says, our reward is beyond our (earthly) comprehension. It will be that good. Hang in there Brother! In His strength, we can do this!

I don't recollect the teachings as you describe them.

No one comes to God but through Jesus. This doesn't happen your choice because we don't know how unless God leads us.God chooses us. We don't choose God he chooses us.

 

[BlessedPeace]

I don't recollect the teachings as you describe them.

No one comes to God but through Jesus. This doesn't happen your choice because we don't know how unless God leads us.God chooses us. We don't choose God he chooses us.

Ego and pride will always object to that fact. It's there in the words of God yet those who idolize self will never see it. It is foolishness to even suggest it. That's in scripture too.

False doctrine is discerned by the, I can ....
I can choose. I can lose....

It will always be in opposition to the I AM.

That's how we can tell the difference between the doctrines of man and those of God.
Some go so far as to insist on the blasphemy that says Jesus was just a blessed man serving God.

 

[Rockson]

It seems I am confined, through no choice of my own, to live for eternity, either in heaven or hell. Is it bad that I don’t find that appealing? Certainly no one finds the prospect of hell appealing. The heaven part sounds really nice, but for eternity? If I don’t have a choice, what about my free will? I prefer to die and that be the end of it.

But you probably lack perspective on what Heaven and the next world is like. If we think of this world as merely a sand box and outside the box you see as we might say THE REAL WORLD perhaps you'd never take a position you'd want your life itself to be over.