It seems I am confined, through no choice of my own, to live for eternity, either in heaven or hell. Is it bad that I don’t find that appealing? Certainly no one finds the prospect of hell appealing. The heaven part sounds really nice, but for eternity? If I don’t have a choice, what about my free will? I prefer to die and that be the end of it.
What if I don’t want eternal life?
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Ronald Nolette
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God made all things and they exist by His rules. He is sovereign over everything including you and I. We are sinners before Him and have a sin debt, which if we have to pay is eternity in the lake of fire in agony,
However God loved us so much He sent Jesus to die and rise again to save us if we trust Him.
He made us for HImself:
Revelation 4:11
King James Version
11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.Oour ultimate and highest joy is found in seeking Him and serving Him.
Not if we are born again. Jesus already paid the debt with His blood.
Jesusfollower
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Of course you have a choice, you have not seen Heaven yet so cannot know what is like. there is a description in the book of revelations, please read it. Do you think you will do nothing for all eternity? maybe you will do important, interesting things? Many theory about hell which one is true? do you believe God would leave people to suffer forever? the book of revelations mentions a lake of fire and second death, or rather a permanent death.....
God gives you a choice in this life, what path will you take, the wide path or the narrow one?
Runningman
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Jesus said only those who believe in him with have eternal life. All others perish which is to say they pass away completely and/or are destroyed. There would be nothing left of you that is alive and conscious to experience living eternally in hell. And living forever eternally will not be dry, dull, or boring. You would be in some pretty good company and enjoying. Think of a life with no problems or concerns ever again. That's the idea of what heaven is.
John 3
16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
BlessedPeace
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Dan Clarkston
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Yeah so it's all about you and what you want with zero regard for the Lord's will.... due to this, you aren't saved anymore since you have turned away from following the Lord which is dying to self and embracing His will, embracing what He wants.
Looks like eternal torment and suffering are in your future. Congrats!
Ah, satan's lie claiming those that aren't saved will cease to exist.
Those claiming such consider Jesus Christ to be a liar because Jesus specifically said those in hell will be tormented there for eternity.
BlessedPeace
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That's false. And the OP should ignore it completely as a lie from the pit.
A Christian BEVERosex their Salvation. It is a free,because Yeshua paid the price in full, irrevocable gift of God.
Not of ourselves so that none may boast.
The Catholic church said Jesus said......
They couldn't augment the Hebrews OT so they warped the writings there and created Hell.
When it isn't in the OT it can't be in the New Testament, NT.
Jesusfollower
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NOT your place to judge! God knows man's heart not you.
ScottA
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You don't understand -- therefore, you do not want what is best.
Contrary to popular belief, eternity is not "endless days." It's no days at all, meaning nothing to be weary of (as it may be with time). Properly defined, eternity is "I am"--not "I'm tired and have had enough." Obviously, you are only weighing life in this world against death. Consequently, you are actually weighing death against death. If you want relief, death is not the correct choice. Actually, that would be more of the same--for all of eternity.
Believe that the promise of good news--is indeed good...and you will be pleasantly surprised...and eternally grateful.
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You are not the one to decide if I am saved. I could be the most pious person on the planet. I’m not. Although, the most pious would never admit to being so.
You might also think about what it means to celebrate someone else’s misfortune.
Isn’t heaven the reward for doing god’s work on earth? I have therefore earned my place in heaven by embracing god’s will.
No, Satan's lie was and is "Ye shall not surely die"
Aunty Jane
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No, actually…it is quite natural to feel this way because “heaven or hell” were never the destinations for all people at all….the only choices God gave to humans was the choice between life of death….obey and live…disobey and die…it was really not more complicated than that. That is allowing God to be God, who gave us life and has the right to dictate how we live it.
Read Genesis and see that God created humans to live forever on earth in paradise conditions, but the first humans lost that life for all their offspring……Jesus came to buy it back under the law of redemption. If you understand what the big picture is, you can see clearly what the Scriptures teach about life and death.
Your free will is yours to exercise…..if you do not want what God is offering, he will not impose his will on you. If you know the terms, you can simply ignore them and act in a manner contrary to his laws and principles….Jesus offered life to people…he did not impose it under threat of eternal torment in hell….he never taught such a thing. If we do not come to God willingly out of love, then he is not going to drag anyone kicking and screaming…..your wish can be granted. Your eternal future is in your own hands.
Rella ~ I am a woman
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About 10 years or so ago , on another forum, there was a poster who said the very same thing.
I wonder if that would have been you? That forum ceased to be.
Dan Clarkston
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Jesus said we will know them by their fruits so those producing bad fruit have bad hearts.
Those with a good heart produce good fruit.
God was speaking of spiritual death which is being separated from the Lord.
satan's lie was Adam and Eve could sin and not die spiritually... so, they went ahead and did sin and they died spiritually.
Warning people living in sin that they will suffer in the eternal fires of hell is not celebrating anything.
Hobie
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When I had a fire with my riding lawn mower, I got gasoline all over my upper body which promptly lit up burning like a bonfire. I knew I had seconds to put it out and could not drop and roll or burn my garage or worse. So I grabbed a rag but it had oil, so I took off my shirt and scraped the gasoline off, but it burned my hands and arms quite badly. You do not want to suffer that kind of pain at any level and I have a fairly high pain threshold. But if you choose that path with your 'freewill',' you will find it is the worse way to die as you see it start to burn and melt your skin to say nothing of the feeling of helplessness and I assure you, great regret. Its not something anyone would choose if they knew the pain IMHO....
You have quite a dilemma. Better choose soon. Tomorrow may be too late. MANY are plunging into Hell Fire right now!
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Aunty Jane
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Actually there was no natural cause of death mentioned in Eden. The only way to die was to disobey God’s command. They did die spiritually because we see the separation from God that occurred when sin entered into the world. (Rom 5:12) But physical death also kicked in that day and with the loss of their original perfection due to the sin that occurred in their own bodies, they began the slow descent into physical death as well. There was a “tree of life” in the garden too that guaranteed that mortal life on earth would be never ending and free access to this tree was granted untill they ate from the TKGE…..only then was the “tree of life” placed off limits… (Gen 3:22-24)
Unfortunately some relish the thought of such punishment for those who merely disagreement with their accepted doctrines. Hell is a satanic idea, far from the thoughts of a loving God who only ever offered “life or death” to his human family.…never did he offer humans the choice between heaven and hell.
I'm glad I didn't accuse Jesus of that!!!
Mark 9:43-48
43 If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life maimed, rather than having two hands, to go to hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched-- 44 where 'Their worm does not die, And the fire is not quenched.'
45 And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life lame, rather than having two feet, to be cast into hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched--46 where 'Their worm does not die, And the fire is not quenched.'
47 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire--48 where 'Their worm does not die, And the fire is not quenched.'
Are you really saying ChristianityBoard's statement of Faith is Satanic???
"We recognize that these realities are named as heaven and hell. Eternal separation from God occurs in hell."
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Wick Stick
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Not everyone has the same beliefs on the afterlife. It isn't exactly a settled thing within all Christianity, because the book only tells us so much.
Some believe in Annihilation - that some souls are destroyed and simply cease to exist. Perhaps that's a belief you should look into.
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