Was Noah's flood global?

[Taken]

I know I’m kind off on an island with this, but observe the following…

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The Differences between the two creation events​
In Genesis chapter One They all (plural) were CREATED. Created is Hebrew word #1254 bara' "...male and female created he them" (Gen 1:27)​	But in Genesis chapter Two Adam alone (singular) is FORMED Formed is Hebrew word #3335 yatsar "...in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed." (Gen 2:8)​
They are created male and female at the same time. No 'Adam's Rib' here!​	Adam is formed some time before Eve. She later being made from him.​
They were simply created, human and mortal. "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment"(Heb 9:27).​	Adam given the breath of life, became a living soul. (Adam would have lived forever had he not fell - see Gen 6:3 "for that he also is flesh"). Ask yourself, "also," as in whom else?​
They are told to multiply. "...Be fruitful and multiply..." (Gen 1:28)​	No such command is given to Adam and Eve (Adam's family was told to multiply after the flood; i.e., Noah's family was told in Gen 9:1).​
Mankind given dominion over animals and fish.​	Adam was a farmer.​
The animals were wild animals and the plants were wild plants. No names given.​	They were domestic animals and crop plants. Adam named these.​
There was not yet rain.​	"...went up a mist from the earth..."(Gen 2:6)​
The creation was completed. All the various races, men and women alike, were created. THEN ------ >>>​	But after that, in Gen 2:5, God saw that He "did not have a man to till the ground" (farmer). So God then FORMED Adam.​

But probably the most striking evidence that Genesis chapter Oneand Genesis chapter Two are not speaking of the same event would be:


This immediately dismisses the misconception that the account in Gen 2 is merely a deeper explanation of the events in Gen 1, as many will say and teach. For if it were, then God 'messed up' on the order of His creation, which is of course impossible. When God and man are at variance, man is always wrong and God always right. Let's now go to the Creation Scriptures themselves for further evidence and documentation.

Will disagree…
Considering the Big Picture…
Who, what, when, why, how….

 

[Truthnightmare]

@Truthnightmare ~
Side note. Some years ago I located a diary of my G+ grandfathers brother, he wrote during his participation the Us Civil war. Personally it was interesting to me since much was detailed about the entire family (parents, 16 children, 5 sons in the war.)…
point being, the writing was in pencil, in a small booklet, in primitive cursive….with Zero punctuation, and at times difficult to keep straight one event from another, in the war, and folks at home. For my own pleasure, I kept the original copies of the diary along with 137 pages I typed on full page paper…making paragraphs and punctuations….and additionally added graphs to my pages specific to each family member, and photos as I was able to secure.
Today we simply have to take writing styles from hundreds of years ago, as they saw fit in what manner to reveal the knowledge.

God Bless you,
Taken

I’m not going to read this until I get home, have a feeling it’s rather interesting…
God bless TTYL

 

[Taken]

I’m not going to read this until I get home, have a feeling it’s rather interesting…
God bless TTYL

Okay. Enjoy your day.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[rebuilder 454]

reference? Particularly the overwhelming part.

Grand canyon

 

[TonyChanYT]

Grand canyon

See If you think that Noah's flood was global, then bet on it and follow up there.

 

[Taken]

@The Learner ~

Hope all is well for you and yours.
God Bless you.

Taken

 

[Truthnightmare]

Will disagree…
Considering the Big Picture…
Who, what, when, why, how….

Who….

Who was Cain afraid of when he was kicked off the land? Adam? Eve?

 

[Taken]

Who….

Who was Cain afraid of when he was kicked off the land? Adam? Eve?

Cain was afraid of his own relatives, (brothers, sisters, nephews, and nieces,), who at any time might see him, seek after him, take revenge against him, plot his demise.

 

[Truthnightmare]

Cain was afraid of his own relatives, (brothers, sisters, nephews, and nieces,), who at any time might see him, seek after him, take revenge against him, plot his demise.

And when he; Cain got to Nod (ancient Mongolia) found a wife and built a city with those same family members?

The Hebrew is very clear on this, and within its clarity we are told God created mankind and later God formed, not created a special man the haa-adam.

How do you justify the following which was presented…

In Gen 1, the plants and animals were created BEFOREman(kind) was created.

In Gen 2, the plants and animals were formed AFTER the man Adam was formed.

 

[The Learner]

@The Learner ~

Hope all is well for you and yours.
God Bless you.

Taken

I am in a lot of shoulder and back pain ---- fell out of bed last night and injured top of my head.

 

[The Learner]

Cain was afraid of his own relatives, (brothers, sisters, nephews, and nieces,), who at any time might see him, seek after him, take revenge against him, plot his demise.

How many years passed from the flood and that event?

 

[The Learner]

And when he; Cain got to Nod (ancient Mongolia) found a wife and built a city with those same family members?

The Hebrew is very clear on this, and within its clarity we are told God created mankind and later God formed, not created a special man the haa-adam.

How do you justify the following which was presented…

In Gen 1, the plants and animals were created BEFOREman(kind) was created.

In Gen 2, the plants and animals were formed AFTER the man Adam was formed.

interesting says very tired one.

 

[Truthnightmare]

I am in a lot of shoulder and back pain ---- fell out of bed last night and injured top of my head.

Praying..

 

[Taken]

I am in a lot of shoulder and back pain ---- fell out of bed last night and injured top of my head.

Oh no, sorry to hear that. Hope you can find relief for your physical discomfort. Maybe consider some solutions/ options to prevent another occurrence of falling out of bed from happening again??

God Bless you,

Taken

 

[Taken]

How many years passed from the flood and that event?

Flood, and “that event” (Cain killing his brother Able, then leaving Noah’s clan)…

How many year’s having passed?
I don’t know.

Scripture does not directly highlight that information.

I suppose one could do a study and try to figure out “years time span”, buy what years are mentioned, and conclude a speculative answer.

Not my interest. Don’t think that was the point, rather the point being Cain being separated from Noah’s Clan….which would mean Cain being separated from Noah’s teaching of Gods Word.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[TheHC]

Yes, a global Food. If it had been local, would Noah & his family have been in the Ark for a year? The waters would have drained off, if it were local.
Also, if it were local, Noah & his fam could have just moved to another area.

Here is a thread from another website:

Flood Evidences — revised

Global Flood evidence: ***1.Vast herds of grazing animals, perhaps millions of them, discovered within the permafrost (called muck fields by some, due to the mud mixed in from previous melting), in the Alaskan and Yukon regions. In the Siberian permafrost, a few have been discovered upright...

www.religiousforums.com

 

[Truthnightmare]

Yes, a global Food. If it had been local, would Noah & his family have been in the Ark for a year? The waters would have drained off, if it were local.
Also, if it were local, Noah & his fam could have just moved to another area.

Here is a thread from another website:

Flood Evidences — revised

Global Flood evidence: ***1.Vast herds of grazing animals, perhaps millions of them, discovered within the permafrost (called muck fields by some, due to the mud mixed in from previous melting), in the Alaskan and Yukon regions. In the Siberian permafrost, a few have been discovered upright...

www.religiousforums.com

As I can understand how many see a global flood, the text and the narrative seems to indicate local. And this is accompanied by things we now know.

Noah and his family was a specific race, a pedigree if you will. If what you state is true would mean two people of one race can create another.

 

[Jay Ross]

-Why did God tell Moses to build an ark and preserve the animals if it was a local flood? It would have been much easier to tell them to relocate to higher ground.

Did God tell Moses to build an ark in which to take on board the animals that God was going to bring to the ark to preserve them.

It looks like your proofreading skills are lacking.

Don't be concerned, it just makes us a little more human and approachable in that most members have the same problem.

 

[rebuilder 454]

As I can understand how many see a global flood, the text and the narrative seems to indicate local. And this is accompanied by things we now know.

Noah and his family was a specific race, a pedigree if you will. If what you state is true would mean two people of one race can create another.

The receding waters created the grand canyon.
That alone disproved a local event.
But we know it covered the mountains because it says so.
Without question, a global event.

 

[Jack]

Genesis 7:17-22
17 Now the flood was on the earth forty days. The waters increased and lifted up the ark, and it rose high above the earth.
18 The waters prevailed and greatly increased on the earth, and the ark moved about on the surface of the waters.
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered.
20 The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered.
21 And all flesh died that moved on the earth: birds and cattle and beasts and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, and every man. 22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, all that was on the dry land, died.

Amen Jesus!