Understanding : Acts 2:38

[Ritajanice]

So is this not when you were born again After he gifted you with faith and you trusted him and called out to him like the tax collector?

Personally I am sick of your childish attacks., Stop telling me I do not know something..

The holy spirit tells everyone this truth. Have you not read romans 1. No one has an excuse, Because they know it. They hide this truth and God allows them to.

No, I just disagree with your view.. I am not ignoring anything, there you go again assuming and attacking.. And you still have not answered how I can go from unbelief to belief without repenting.



Yes he did tell us. Even Nicodemus did nto understand and asked, How can these things be, Jesus did not leave him hanging.

Its the cross. he who BELIEVES is not condemned, He who does not believe is in a state of condemnation already..

No one is saved from eternal damnation until they are first justified.

We are justified by faith.

Did you read my post...I have no more discussion with you...here it is in case you missed it.

We are once again going round in circles @Eternally Grateful ...I don’t believe as you believe and you don’t believe as I believe...no point in continuing to force each other to believe our way..that is NEVER going to happen, I thrive on God’s Living word...will now exit this thread...enjoy the rest of your day and try not to take things so personally...there is great freedom when one is able to do that...Look to Jesus as the GREATEST of examples......Praise God,xx




.thank you, enjoy the rest of your day.

 

[JBO]

The Spirit beareth witness with our spirit that we are Gods children, God speaks to our spirit as he’s indwelling our spirit and gifting us his faith to believe in the Spirit...a manifestation of the Spirit,..the Living word of God which is the Living spiritual rebirth, is backed up by His written word.

God is obviously not speaking to your spirit the same things that He is speaking to Greatful's spirit. How come God speaks different things to different people's spirits about the same things?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

We are once again going round in circles @Eternally Grateful ...I don’t believe as you believe and you don’t believe as I believe...no point in continuing to force each other to believe our way..that is NEVER going to happen, I thrive on God’s Living word...will now exit this thread...enjoy the rest of your day and try not to take things so personally...there is great freedom when one is able to do that...Look to Jesus as the GREATEST of examples......Praise God,xx

This is your problem. You act as if me trying to correct your behavior is me taking something personally.

As believers in Christ, we should be able to take direction fro other believers when they tell us we are doing something wrong. And not try to deflect it back on them as you just did.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Only those losing an argument resort to name calling. Calling someone childish is name calling.

lol.. whatever. show me how I was losing the argument. I will wait patiently

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Where do you think I said that?

So yuo changed your mind, you no longer believe we have to be water baptized to be saved?

He is trying to get them to see that the work they must do is believing. Those who believe and are baptized will be saved.

Jesus did not say this,

He said he who believes ius not condemned, he who does not believe is condemned already.

No mention whatsoever of baptism

 

[Ritajanice]

God Hates Pride

• God hates pride; we must learn to hate what God hates and to love what God loves. How much do you hate pride?
• Proverbs 8:13 “To fear the LORD is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behaviour and perverse speech.”
• Proverbs 11:2 “When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom.”
• Proverbs 16:5 “The LORD detests all the proud of heart. Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished.”
• Proverbs 16:18 “Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.”
• God is not out to hurt your pride he is out to kill your pride.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Did you read my post...I have no more discussion with you...here it is in case you missed it.

We are once again going round in circles @Eternally Grateful ...I don’t believe as you believe and you don’t believe as I believe...no point in continuing to force each other to believe our way..that is NEVER going to happen, I thrive on God’s Living word...will now exit this thread...enjoy the rest of your day and try not to take things so personally...there is great freedom when one is able to do that...Look to Jesus as the GREATEST of examples......Praise God,xx




.thank you, enjoy the rest of your day.

SMH, You made that post after the posts I responded to.

There you go making the mistake again.

Keep trying, I will keep calling you out for your behavior.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

God Hates Pride

• God hates pride; we must learn to hate what God hates and to love what God loves. How much do you hate pride?
• Proverbs 8:13 “To fear the LORD is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behaviour and perverse speech.”
• Proverbs 11:2 “When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom.”
• Proverbs 16:5 “The LORD detests all the proud of heart. Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished.”
• Proverbs 16:18 “Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.”
• God is not out to hurt your pride he is out to kill your pride.

Yes he hates pride.

Take this to heart and look inside.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

God is obviously not speaking to your spirit the same things that He is speaking to Greatful's spirit. How come God speaks different things to different people's spirits about the same things?

God is not speaking to us both. God does not contradict himself.

I learned along time ago. To stop thinking I have it all in stone, and I am right,, I continue to try to learn and help others..

 

[Behold]

You have to be Born Again before you can “believe” in the Spirit Of God,..yes that is correct.

Not according to God's plan of Redemption.

And im glad you posted your teaching.... as these Mods here, know better, as i dont think that any of them are Hyper-Calvinists.
So we'll see what we get..

Listen, according to "TULIP">.. what you posted is what it teaches.

 

[Behold]

God is obviously not speaking to your spirit the same things that He is speaking to Greatful's spirit. How come God speaks different things to different people's spirits about the same things?

Because there are 2 of them.

 

[Ritajanice]

Not according to God's Redemption.

And im glad you posted this as these Mods here, know better, so, we'll see what we end up with....

Listen, according to "TULIP">.. what you posted is what it teaches.

According to Gods Living word...you cannot believe in the Spirit .....without the witness of the Holy Spirit..

God brings us to initially believe in Jesus ....then gifts us the faith to believe in our spirit, ....it’s our spirit that needs to believe in Jesus....that can only happen by the spiritual rebirth........yes maybe @Angelina or @Nancy need to be notified of my Calvin belief that you keep asssuming of me.

I will NEVER denounce what I have received in my heart...if I get banned then so be it...

I will NEVER deny Gods Living word on how I became Born Again having never read a Bible.

 

[Behold]

According to Gods Living word...you cannot believe in the Spirit .....without the witness of the Holy Spirit..

Noone "believes in the Spirit" to be born again....We Believe in JESUS, and God accepts our faith to then give us the Gift of Salvation.

This "believes in the spirit".. you keep posting... this phrase.

Is that "believes in the Holy Spirit" or is that "now that im in the Spirit, born again, by the Spirit, i can finally trust in Christ".

This "believes in the spirit".. is not a bible verse, so, did you make it up, or is it something a Hyper Calvinist wrote that you've memorized?

 

[Ritajanice]

Noone "believes in the Spirit" to be born again....We Believe in JESUS, and God accepts our faith to then give us the Gift of Salvation.

This "believes in the spirit".. you keep posting... this phrase.

We believe in our spirit, because we are Born Again of the Spirit...the Living Spirit...not the written word....that backs up Gods Living word..

The written word does not make one Born Again only the Living word of God can do that....he testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children....that’s his Living word, do you understand that?

Is that "believes in the Holy Spirit" or is that "now that im in the Spirit, born again, by the Spirit, i can finally trust in Christ".

Those are your words that you posted those are not my words.....

This "believes in the spirit".. is not a bible verse, so, did you make it up, or is it something a Hyper Calvinist wrote that you've memorized?

We believe Gods Living word in our spirit, not our intellect.

Gods word is Alive and Active in us.....our spirit is Born Again....that is where we believe in our spirit....which is then relayed to our mind.

You can’t have a Living relationship with God via his Spirit....without being Born of The Spirit ..we don’t communicate with God in our intellect, we communicate with him via our spirit.

Spirit gives birth to spirit....that is the Living spiritual rebirth....our spirit comes Alive in Gods Spirit, who witnesses Gods truth to our spirit......our spirit is Born Again, not by the written word, by Gods Living word...the written word backs up Gods Living word.

 

[Behold]

The written word does not make one Born Again only the Living word of God can do that.

Never said it did.
That's someone else you are talking to, who must have said something similar.

Paul teaches this..

Titus 3:5

5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost....​

Ritajanice said:
"""""".you understand the cross once you have become Born Again""""""


= now that im born again, i can finally "see the Cross' and Trust in Christ.

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Ritajanice said:
""""You have to be Born Again before you can “believe” in the Spirit Of God,..yes that is correct.""""

 

[Ritajanice]

Never said it did.
That's someone else you are talking to, who must have said something similar.

Paul teaches this..

Titus 3:5​

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5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost....​

Ritajanice said:
"""""".you understand the cross once you have become Born Again""""""


= now that im born again, i can finally "see the Cross' and Trust in Christ.

=
Ritajanice said:
""""You have to be Born Again before you can “believe” in the Spirit Of God,..yes that is correct.""""

I have already explained this...I was brought to initially believe in Jesus........you cannot believe in your spirit that Jesus died on the cross, unless you have been Born Of The Spirit...Spirit gives birth to spirit?

That is the Living word of God...His Spirit ( Living) gives birth to our dead spirit and brings our spirit Alive, then we can believe in our spirit, because we have been Born Again in our spirit by the Living word of God.

Our spirit is where we communicate with God via His Spirit....His Living Spirit communicates with our spirit, as he made our spirit Born Again by His Living word.

Gods Living word will never contradict His written word....I thrive on God’s Living word, backed up by his written word...we communicate in our spirit to God...who is very much Alive and Active in our spirit...

 

[Behold]

you cannot believe in your spirit that Jesus died on the cross, unless you have been Born Of The Spirit..

"believe in your spirit".

What is that ?

Its not in a bible, @Ritajanice .

The NT says that with the Heart, you believe....>Faith is in your HEART., and your Spirit is born again.

So, again, this pharse you keep posting.... .. "believes in the spirit".. did you make it up, or is it something a Hyper Calvinist wrote that you've memorized?

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Grace is the Mercy of God, extended as : "For God so loved the World that He gave JESUS"

Here is Grace.

John 3:16
2 Corinthians 5:19
John 3:17

Grace is God's Son's Blood and Death provided to deal with the sin of the world, one believer at a time.

Grace is not water baptism.
Grace is not keeping commandments, and law.
Grace is not trying to stay saved.

I remember growing up in church and being taught that repentance was me turning away from sin. So when I was entrenched in a powerful sin as an adult I tried and tried to turn away from that sin, but it only lasted three days and I was back again in it. But even today turning away from sin is still the definition of repentance. Do you think that also? Most people do. Its not true.

Repentance is admitting that I can't "turn away" from sin. That's what I finally did. I told Jesus that if He existed that He was going to have to put me in a position where I couldn't commit that sin; that it was no longer available to me. He answered that prayer (the first prayer in my life at almost 30 years old that was ever answered.) I still didn't completely understand, only that He must exist because this was definitely an answer to my prayer, but it broke my heart. You see I loved my sin. At church during prayer on Wednesday night, I started asking Him questions and He answered by showing me a vision, and me asking dumb questions. Then in answer to a really dumb question He yelled "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Boy that shut me up! I had never heard His voice before. Then I knew He was going to say more and I just listened. And He spoke the most memorable 8 sentences I ever heard and I finally understood. It was then that according to His mercy (your words) He poured Himself into me. I was filled with the powerful grace of Himself and all the desire to sin was immediately gone forever. So we are both right. Yours is the why of grace. And mine is what we receive of grace. Power to be and remain cleansed and righteous.

 

[Ritajanice]

"believe in your spirit".

What is that nonsense?

Not nonsense at all....Spirit gives birth to spirit?...our spirit is birthed....how are we led by the Spirit...in our minds...no ...in our spirit.....

Its not in a bible, @Ritajanice .

The NT says that with the Heart, you believe....>Faith is in your HEART., and your Spirit is born again.

So, again, this pharse you keep posting.... .. "believes in the spirit".. is not a bible verse, so, did you make it up, or is it something a Hyper Calvinist wrote that you've

Faith is a gift from God a manifestation of the Spirit..biblical......you cannot believe in God in your human understanding....you believe in God through our spirit....our spirit is Born Again, ....

I can keep asking you, if that is what you need., as that phrase is not in a NT..

Did you make it up?
Did you learn in from some online Calvinism study ???????????

I have never studied Calvin in my life...

And this, is an un-truth.. that you posted.

No it’s not...in your opinion it’s an un-truth.

Ritajanice said:
""""You have to be Born Again before you can “believe” in the Spirit Of God,..yes that is correct.""""

Your spirit must be Born Again...that is where we communicate with God, Biblical....Spirit gives birth to spirit..

God is Spirit, we communicate with God via our spirit, that is where we are Born Again..biblical.

How did Jesus communicate with God?....

 

[Behold]

I remember growing up in church and being taught that repentance was me turning away from sin. So when I was entrenched in a powerful sin as an adult I tried and tried to turn away from that sin, but it only lasted three days and I was back again in it. But even today turning away from sin is still the definition of repentance. Do you think that also? Most people do. Its not true.

Trying to "repent from sin" when your nature is "the sin nature"?

That is like falling off a tall building and not hitting the ground..

Impossible.

There is no "repenting of sin" when you are a SINNER who needs to be SAVED.

Real REPENTANCE, is not to turn from Sin, that is the nature of a SINNER....but its to repent, or turn from UNBELIEF.. to FAITH, in Christ.

That is the repentance that God calls : FAITH.