TRUE MEANING OF THE SEVEN THUNDERS PROPHECY

[Davy]

I get so tired of seeing the Biblically illiterate play games with the written Word of God, trying to make slogans and vain philosophy out of a small piece of God's Word they pull out of a Bible Chapter.

The "seven thunders" idea of Revelation 10 which was told to Apostle John is a simple matter, IF... one stays with the actual Bible Chapter SUBJECT FLOW...

Rev 10:1-7
10 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:
2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,

3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.

That "seven thunders" of course is symbolic for something, but we don't know what it is symbolic for yet at this point in that Chapter.

4 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, "Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not."

John was getting ready to write down what those "seven thunders" uttered, and he was told not to.

5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,

6 And sware by Him That liveth for ever and ever, Who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

That angel John sees then declares "... that there should be time no longer:" at that point? Well that means of course the END of this world has come at this point in time. Just what... end though? Keep going...

7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as He hath declared to His servants the prophets.
KJV

That... is what the angel meant "that there should be time no longer", pointing to the END of this present world with that "voice of the seventh angel"! What "seventh angel"? The one of Revelation 11 that sounds the FINAL SEVENTH TRUMPET. That is the day of Christ's future coming to gather His Church, the last day of this present world.

That means ALL... Bible prophecy given by God and His Christ about this present world will be COMPLETED, DONE on that 7th Trumpet sounding. That is the "mystery" that above verse is pointing to being fulfilled.

What are those "seven thunders" symbolic for then, ONCE these OTHER Revelation 10 verses are understood? One can't grasp what the "seven thunders" are symbolic for until the above is understood about it being linked to that "mystery" of ALL Bible prophecy being fulfilled for this present world on that 7th angel sounding.

And God uses symbols of His natural creation in many of His Messages, and this is one example of that.

With a THUNDERSTORM, what happens next... after you see lightening strike?

You hear THUNDER! And depending on how far away the lightening hit also depends on how long a period of silence happens before you hear the resultant thunder.

Thus the "seven thunders" Message is simple, and no need for John to write them down, because when those "seven thunders" occur, it means the lightening which caused them is already DONE, PAST.

So what's the lightening in this case? It's those SEVEN TRUMPET VOICES given in God's Word, which are also included in The Old Testament prophets, Bible prophecy about events of the very end of this world, leading up to Christ's future return on the last day of this world.

 

[The PuP]

I get so tired of seeing the Biblically illiterate play games with the written Word of God, trying to make slogans and vain philosophy out of a small piece of God's Word they pull out of a Bible Chapter.

The "seven thunders" idea of Revelation 10 which was told to Apostle John is a simple matter, IF... one stays with the actual Bible Chapter SUBJECT FLOW...

Rev 10:1-7
10 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:
2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,

3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.

That "seven thunders" of course is symbolic for something, but we don't know what it is symbolic for yet at this point in that Chapter.

4 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, "Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not."

John was getting ready to write down what those "seven thunders" uttered, and he was told not to.

5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,

6 And sware by Him That liveth for ever and ever, Who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

That angel John sees then declares "... that there should be time no longer:" at that point? Well that means of course the END of this world has come at this point in time. Just what... end though? Keep going...

7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as He hath declared to His servants the prophets.
KJV

That... is what the angel meant "that there should be time no longer", pointing to the END of this present world with that "voice of the seventh angel"! What "seventh angel"? The one of Revelation 11 that sounds the FINAL SEVENTH TRUMPET. That is the day of Christ's future coming to gather His Church, the last day of this present world.

That means ALL... Bible prophecy given by God and His Christ about this present world will be COMPLETED, DONE on that 7th Trumpet sounding. That is the "mystery" that above verse is pointing to being fulfilled.

What are those "seven thunders" symbolic for then, ONCE these OTHER Revelation 10 verses are understood? One can't grasp what the "seven thunders" are symbolic for until the above is understood about it being linked to that "mystery" of ALL Bible prophecy being fulfilled for this present world on that 7th angel sounding.

And God uses symbols of His natural creation in many of His Messages, and this is one example of that.

With a THUNDERSTORM, what happens next... after you see lightening strike?

You hear THUNDER! And depending on how far away the lightening hit also depends on how long a period of silence happens before you hear the resultant thunder.

Thus the "seven thunders" Message is simple, and no need for John to write them down, because when those "seven thunders" occur, it means the lightening which caused them is already DONE, PAST.

So what's the lightening in this case? It's those SEVEN TRUMPET VOICES given in God's Word, which are also included in The Old Testament prophets, Bible prophecy about events of the very end of this world, leading up to Christ's future return on the last day of this world.

You are right that what the seven thunders uttered is tied to the mystery. But you are wrong about what the mystery is. It is the resurrection. It IS A the "salvation of your souls". It IS "the grace and GLORY that is to TO COME that is to be brought to you at the Revelation of Jesus Christ". It IS "the blessed hope.

1Pe 1:9-13 KJV 9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the SALVATION OF YOUR SOULS. 10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the GRACE THAT SHOULD COME unto you: 11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the GLORY THAT SHOULD FOLLOW. 12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into. 13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST;

Paul told us of this mystery in 1COR15. Have you or even Paul been clothed with immortality or incorruption? NO. So it is still a mystery. What it is we know. But HOW we are clothed and WHEN it will come remains a mystery.

1Co 15:51-54 KJV 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So WHEN this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, THEN shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Be Blessed
The PuP

 

[grafted branch]

That... is what the angel meant "that there should be time no longer", pointing to the END of this present world with that "voice of the seventh angel"! What "seventh angel"? The one of Revelation 11 that sounds the FINAL SEVENTH TRUMPET. That is the day of Christ's future coming to gather His Church, the last day of this present world.

If the millennium is a literal thousand years then time would still be a reality during the millennium. That would mean that the seventh trumpet sounds after the millennium, if time is no longer when the seventh trumpet is sounded.

Is that part of the point you’re trying to make here?

 

[Davy]

You are right that what the seven thunders uttered is tied to the mystery. But you are wrong about what the mystery is. It is the resurrection. It IS A the "salvation of your souls". It IS "the grace and GLORY that is to TO COME that is to be brought to you at the Revelation of Jesus Christ". It IS "the blessed hope.

Brethren, this one sounds like he has gone off on a false Pre-trib Rapture Theory tangent. They love to quote that "blessed hope" idea, the false Pre-trib Rapture school using it as a SLOGAN for a false pre-trib rapture.

Titus 2:13
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
KJV

Does the above verse where that "blessed hope" is quoted from, REVEAL JUST WHEN Christ's appearing will be in order to gather us? NO! it does not!

But the Pre-trib Rapture school, that's what they do, THEY TAKE PIECES OF BIBLE SCRIPTURE and make SLOGANS AND SAYINGS OUT OF IT!

Think about Tim LaHaye's 13 Left-behind book series. They all push the idea of being TAKEN! The problem with that, is they PULL that TAKEN idea out of the Luke 17 Scripture where Lord Jesus was WARNING the Church AGAINST BEING 'TAKEN', for it means to be a symbolic DEAD CARCASE 'taken' in deception to where the fowls eat on a dead carcase! In other words, they just SKIP Christ's WARNING there at the end of Luke 17, and instead make A MAJOR SLOGAN FEST out that one idea of 'being TAKEN'!

(I often consider just what it is that causes these pre-trib rapture theory brethren to be so deceived by such slogan creating charlatans they allow over them. I can only feel by The Holy Spirit that they are actually weak in The FAITH because of not realizing what this world is actually about, and what the events for the end of this world actually are. So it is much easier to just forget about Jesus' Biblical SIGNS of the END that He commanded His Church to be watching, leading up to His future return. That's just too... much for those deceived brethren to consider, so they lay it all on their Church leaders and what those deceived men tell them believe. In other words, they let OTHERS tell them what to think. I would hate to know that I left the care of my soul in their hands, instead of in the hands of our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ by keeping His Word.

Yet maybe God is causing their deceptions about the end times for a reason, like maybe because their FAITH is weak with their lack of Biblical understanding of the Scriptures line upon line, that their deception will be a type spiritual protection for the coming "great tribulation" events. I don't know, we'll have to see, if we are still alive for when the future false-Messiah shows up in Jerusalem and proclaims himself as The Christ.)

 

[Davy]

If the millennium is a literal thousand years then time would still be a reality during the millennium. That would mean that the seventh trumpet sounds after the millennium, if time is no longer when the seventh trumpet is sounded.

Is that part of the point you’re trying to make here?

Not my point, as your statement above is not Biblically true anyway.

There is no reason to assume... that the final 7th Trumpet - 3rd Woe of Revelation 11:14-15 happens AFTER Christ's future 1,000 years reign. I don't know who... put your idea in your head, but it certainly was not from me, nor from Bible Scripture, because your idea is not written anywhere in God's Word.

Rev 11:14-15
14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever."
KJV

 

[grafted branch]

Not my point, as your statement above is not Biblically true anyway.

There is no reason to assume... that the final 7th Trumpet - 3rd Woe of Revelation 11:14-15 happens AFTER Christ's future 1,000 years reign. I don't know who... put your idea in your head, but it certainly was not from me, nor from Bible Scripture, because your idea is not written anywhere in God's Word.

Rev 11:14-15
14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever."
KJV

Well, is there time in the millennium or not?

 

[The PuP]

Brethren, this one sounds like he has gone off on a false Pre-trib Rapture Theory tangent. They love to quote that "blessed hope" idea, the false Pre-trib Rapture school using it as a SLOGAN for a false pre-trib rapture.

Titus 2:13
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
KJV

Does the above verse where that "blessed hope" is quoted from, REVEAL JUST WHEN Christ's appearing will be in order to gather us? NO! it does not!

But the Pre-trib Rapture school, that's what they do, THEY TAKE PIECES OF BIBLE SCRIPTURE and make SLOGANS AND SAYINGS OUT OF IT!

Think about Tim LaHaye's 13 Left-behind book series. They all push the idea of being TAKEN! The problem with that, is they PULL that TAKEN idea out of the Luke 17 Scripture where Lord Jesus was WARNING the Church AGAINST BEING 'TAKEN', for it means to be a symbolic DEAD CARCASE 'taken' in deception to where the fowls eat on a dead carcase! In other words, they just SKIP Christ's WARNING there at the end of Luke 17, and instead make A MAJOR SLOGAN FEST out that one idea of 'being TAKEN'!

(I often consider just what it is that causes these pre-trib rapture theory brethren to be so deceived by such slogan creating charlatans they allow over them. I can only feel by The Holy Spirit that they are actually weak in The FAITH because of not realizing what this world is actually about, and what the events for the end of this world actually are. So it is much easier to just forget about Jesus' Biblical SIGNS of the END that He commanded His Church to be watching, leading up to His future return. That's just too... much for those deceived brethren to consider, so they lay it all on their Church leaders and what those deceived men tell them believe. In other words, they let OTHERS tell them what to think. I would hate to know that I left the care of my soul in their hands, instead of in the hands of our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ by keeping His Word.

Yet maybe God is causing their deceptions about the end times for a reason, like maybe because their FAITH is weak with their lack of Biblical understanding of the Scriptures line upon line, that their deception will be a type spiritual protection for the coming "great tribulation" events. I don't know, we'll have to see, if we are still alive for when the future false-Messiah shows up in Jerusalem and proclaims himself as The Christ.)

Brethren, this one sounds like he has gone off on a false Pre-trib Rapture Theory tangent. They love to quote that "blessed hope" idea, the false Pre-trib Rapture school using it as a SLOGAN for a false pre-trib rapture.

Titus 2:13
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
KJV

Does the above verse where that "blessed hope" is quoted from, REVEAL JUST WHEN Christ's appearing will be in order to gather us? NO! it does not!

But the Pre-trib Rapture school, that's what they do, THEY TAKE PIECES OF BIBLE SCRIPTURE and make SLOGANS AND SAYINGS OUT OF IT!

Think about Tim LaHaye's 13 Left-behind book series. They all push the idea of being TAKEN! The problem with that, is they PULL that TAKEN idea out of the Luke 17 Scripture where Lord Jesus was WARNING the Church AGAINST BEING 'TAKEN', for it means to be a symbolic DEAD CARCASE 'taken' in deception to where the fowls eat on a dead carcase! In other words, they just SKIP Christ's WARNING there at the end of Luke 17, and instead make A MAJOR SLOGAN FEST out that one idea of 'being TAKEN'!

(I often consider just what it is that causes these pre-trib rapture theory brethren to be so deceived by such slogan creating charlatans they allow over them. I can only feel by The Holy Spirit that they are actually weak in The FAITH because of not realizing what this world is actually about, and what the events for the end of this world actually are. So it is much easier to just forget about Jesus' Biblical SIGNS of the END that He commanded His Church to be watching, leading up to His future return. That's just too... much for those deceived brethren to consider, so they lay it all on their Church leaders and what those deceived men tell them believe. In other words, they let OTHERS tell them what to think. I would hate to know that I left the care of my soul in their hands, instead of in the hands of our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ by keeping His Word.

Yet maybe God is causing their deceptions about the end times for a reason, like maybe because their FAITH is weak with their lack of Biblical understanding of the Scriptures line upon line, that their deception will be a type spiritual protection for the coming "great tribulation" events. I don't know, we'll have to see, if we are still alive for when the future false-Messiah shows up in Jerusalem and proclaims himself as The Christ.)

I am not pretrib. So, your attempts to attribute to me the false narrative of pretrib, shows me how little you understand, and are blinded by your own beliefs. If you did read what I wrote, you didn't pay much heed to realize that I'm not pre-trib.
The PuP

 

[Davy]

Well, is there time in the millennium or not?

Get you a good clock and bury it somewhere, and wait and see if it still works after Christ's future coming. Sorry, but your point is just moot.

 

[Davy]

I am not pretrib. So, your attempts to attribute to me the false narrative of pretrib, shows me how little you understand, and are blinded by your own beliefs. If you did read what I wrote, you didn't pay much heed to realize that I'm not pre-trib.
The PuP

Doesn't matter if you are or are not, you still USED that "blessed hope" idea just like how deceived pre-trib rapture folks use it, and that... was my real point.

 

[Davy]

I am not pretrib. So, your attempts to attribute to me the false narrative of pretrib, shows me how little you understand, and are blinded by your own beliefs. If you did read what I wrote, you didn't pay much heed to realize that I'm not pre-trib.
The PuP

On second thought, maybe you need... more talking to.

You Said:
"You are right that what the seven thunders uttered is tied to the mystery. But you are wrong about what the mystery is. It is the resurrection. It IS A the "salvation of your souls". It IS "the grace and GLORY that is to TO COME that is to be brought to you at the Revelation of Jesus Christ". It IS "the blessed hope."

No, I was NOT wrong about what the "mystery" of Rev.10 is. It is about the WHOLE WORD OF GOD concerning THIS PRESENT WORLD that is CONCLUDED on that future day. That is why the Rev.10:7 verse says that "mystery of God" was DECLARED TO HIS SERVANTS THE PROPHETS.

Rev 10:7
7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as He hath declared to his servants the prophets.
KJV


So YOU presume to lecture me on my Bible understanding, when YOU show you cannot even handle basic English in the above?? Go Fish!

 

[grafted branch]

Get you a good clock and bury it somewhere, and wait and see if it still works after Christ's future coming. Sorry, but your point is just moot.

That’s like insisting 1+1=3 and telling me to wait and see if it’s true after I turn in my homework.

The point is not moot, the point proves you need to correct your understanding of the scriptures. God is not the author of confusion, these things have to make sense.

 

[The PuP]

Doesn't matter if you are or are not, you still USED that "blessed hope" idea just like how deceived pre-trib rapture folks use it, and that... was my real point.

No. I made no connection with the blessed hope being a pretrib event. If you had been paying attention, you would see that I place the timing of the blessed hope of the church to be the 3rd thunder found in Rev 8.

Rev 8:3-5 KJV 3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. 4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand. 5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.

According to 1Th 1, Jesus will avenge the saints, upon them that obey not the gospel, when he comes to be glorified in the saints. It is the pouring out of the prayers of the saints upon the golden altar, that signifies that the revelation of Jesus Christ has occurred. But because the glorified saints will be taken to the Father's presence [THE LORD in 1Thess4], the mystery of the resurrection will remain a mystery until the revelation of the man of sin... when he suffers a mortal wound but does not die. Because he [the man of sin] is the ONLY one (known on earth) to [at that time] have immortality, it will not be until God resurrects the saints and prophets of Israel, when the 7th trumpet sounds, that the mystery of the resurrection [it's manifestation to the world] is no longer a mystery to the world. That is when the day of the Lord, the day of Christ shall begin.

2Th 2:1-13 KJV 1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to SALVATION through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

The PuP

 

[The PuP]

On second thought, maybe you need... more talking to.

You Said:
"You are right that what the seven thunders uttered is tied to the mystery. But you are wrong about what the mystery is. It is the resurrection. It IS A the "salvation of your souls". It IS "the grace and GLORY that is to TO COME that is to be brought to you at the Revelation of Jesus Christ". It IS "the blessed hope."

No, I was NOT wrong about what the "mystery" of Rev.10 is. It is about the WHOLE WORD OF GOD concerning THIS PRESENT WORLD that is CONCLUDED on that future day. That is why the Rev.10:7 verse says that "mystery of God" was DECLARED TO HIS SERVANTS THE PROPHETS.

Rev 10:7
7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as He hath declared to his servants the prophets.
KJV


So YOU presume to lecture me on my Bible understanding, when YOU show you cannot even handle basic English in the above?? Go Fish!

As I quoted from 1Peter, this mystery WAS revealed to the saints and prophets, but the reality of and timing of which, will be manifested at the Revelation of Jesus. And that is what John said when there shall be no more delay, in manifesting what the saints and prophets preached. The prophets could not preach what has not been revealed to them. They preached about the glory of the resurrection that should follow. But the reality of the resurrection will not come until the revelation of Jesus... just as Peter stated.
The PuP

 

[Davy]

That’s like insisting 1+1=3 and telling me to wait and see if it’s true after I turn in my homework.

The point is not moot, the point proves you need to correct your understanding of the scriptures. God is not the author of confusion, these things have to make sense.

You and your buddies here that keep showing up pushing that LIE, that I need understanding in The Scriptures, are starting to sound like an OLD RECORD PLAYER, A SCRATCHY ONE AT THAT!

The reality is that you'all cannot stand those who are given to understand Bible Scripture, like God has given me. You hate anyone... with that ability to show what God's Word actually says as written! And the reason is simple; because it EXPOSES all the LIES from men's doctrines that are pushed on Christian forums.

God's Word full strength as written, just is not that popular, especially on many Christian forums.

 

[Davy]

No. I made no connection with the blessed hope being a pretrib event. If you had been paying attention, you would see that I place the timing of the blessed hope of the church to be the 3rd thunder found in Rev 8.

Yes you DID... make a connection with man's false Pre-trib Rapture theory when you used that "blessed hope" idea like they do.

And NO... I do not believe you.

 

[ScottA]

Unfortunately...this above is all still the conjecture of personal interpretation and understanding, and no revelation as promised.

 

[The PuP]

On second thought, maybe you need... more talking to.

You Said:
"You are right that what the seven thunders uttered is tied to the mystery. But you are wrong about what the mystery is. It is the resurrection. It IS A the "salvation of your souls". It IS "the grace and GLORY that is to TO COME that is to be brought to you at the Revelation of Jesus Christ". It IS "the blessed hope."

No, I was NOT wrong about what the "mystery" of Rev.10 is. It is about the WHOLE WORD OF GOD concerning THIS PRESENT WORLD that is CONCLUDED on that future day. That is why the Rev.10:7 verse says that "mystery of God" was DECLARED TO HIS SERVANTS THE PROPHETS.

Rev 10:7
7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as He hath declared to his servants the prophets.
KJV


So YOU presume to lecture me on my Bible understanding, when YOU show you cannot even handle basic English in the above?? Go Fish!

Time does not end when the seven thunders sound. How can you possibly defend the reality of a literal thousand year reign of Christ, if time ends before the millennium even begins? If you were to grasp the real reality of the seven thunders, you would realize that the 6th thunder, which sounds in Rev 16, signifies the resurrection of the two witnesses. We know this by the great earthquake that John mentions in both Rev 11 and Rev 16. There again, the 2 witnesses are in the process of fulfilling their 1260 day ministry. Time hasn't ceased. Only the reality of the mystery has been revealed, and is no longer a mystery, when the 7th trumpet sounds.
The PuP

 

[Davy]

As I quoted from 1Peter, this mystery WAS revealed to the saints and prophets, but the reality of and timing of which, will be manifested at the Revelation of Jesus. And that is what John said when there shall be no more delay, in manifesting what the saints and prophets preached. The prophets could not preach what has not been revealed to them. They preached about the glory of the resurrection that should follow. But the reality of the resurrection will not come until the revelation of Jesus... just as Peter stated.
The PuP

What "mystery" would that be, the one YOU GOT from men's doctrines of Hyper-Dispensationalism? You don't believe there's TWO Gospels also, do you?

So what?, you think you can just key on that word "mystery" from wherever it appears in other Bible Scripture, and wrongly INSERT those other ideas into that Rev.10 subject of the "mystery of God"? If so, then you really do... show you cannot understand basic English, much less Bible Scripture as written.

That Rev.10:7 "mystery of God" is NOT the mystery Apostle Paul spoke of involving how Christ's Salvation would also go to the believing Gentiles. What Rev.10:7 is referring to in connection with God's OT prophets is about THE WHOLE OF BIBLE PROPHECY FOR ALL... EVENTS INVOLVING THIS PRESENT WORLD TIME! Why is it about all that? Because that is what that FINAL 7TH TRUMPET CONCLUDES ON THE LAST DAY OF THIS PRESENT WORLD WHEN JESUS RETURNS!

Now if you cannot understand that simplicity I explained, then good luck with your delusions from men's doctrines.

 

[The PuP]

Yes you DID... make a connection with man's false Pre-trib Rapture theory when you used that "blessed hope" idea like they do.

And NO... I do not believe you.

The blessed hope is the glorious appearing of Jesus. Not a pretrib rapture. There is no timing element found in Titus 2, other than Jesus's appearing. That is the Pre-trib fallacy and is not what I promote.
Be Blessed
The PuP

 

[The PuP]

What "mystery" would that be, the one YOU GOT from men's doctrines of Hyper-Dispensationalism? You don't believe there's TWO Gospels also, do you?

So what?, you think you can just key on that word "mystery" from wherever it appears in other Bible Scripture, and wrongly INSERT those other ideas into that Rev.10 subject of the "mystery of God"? If so, then you really do... show you cannot understand basic English, much less Bible Scripture as written.

That Rev.10:7 "mystery of God" is NOT the mystery Apostle Paul spoke of involving how Christ's Salvation would also go to the believing Gentiles. What Rev.10:7 is referring to in connection with God's OT prophets is about THE WHOLE OF BIBLE PROPHECY FOR ALL... EVENTS INVOLVING THIS PRESENT WORLD TIME! Why is it about all that? Because that is what that FINAL 7TH TRUMPET CONCLUDES ON THE LAST DAY OF THIS PRESENT WORLD WHEN JESUS RETURNS!

Now if you cannot understand that simplicity I explained, then good luck with your delusions from men's doctrines.

You are so confused by what I say. The mystery IS the reality of the resurrection. WE SHALL ALL BE CHANGED. It's not ours or any Jews or Gentiles believing the gospel. It is the resurrection, the salvation of our souls.
The PuP