There is no spiritual gift called "the gift of tongues".

[The Learner]

At a later date, however, some famous names are to be found defending a contrary opinion. Anselm ("Monol.", 64), Abelard ("ln Ep. ad Rom."), Hugo of St. Victor ("De sacram." III, xi), and Richard of St. Victor ("De Trin.", III, v) all declare that it is possible to assign peremptory reasons why God should be both One and Three. In explanation of this it should be noted that at that period the relation of philosophy to revealed doctrine was but obscurely understood. Only after the Aristotelean system had obtained recognition from theologians was this question thoroughly treated. In the intellectual ferment of the time Abelard initiated a Rationalistic tendency: not merely did he claim a knowledge of the Trinity for the pagan philosophers, but his own Trinitarian doctrine was practically Sabellian. Anselm's error was due not to Rationalism, but to too wide an application of the Augustinian principle "Crede ut intelligas". Hugh and Richard of St. Victor were, however, certainly influenced by Abelard's teaching. Raymond Lully's (1235-1315) errors in this regard were even more extreme. They were expressly condemned by Gregory XI in 1376. In the nineteenth century the influence of the prevailing Rationalism manifested itself in several Catholic writers. Frohschammer and Günther both asserted that the dogma of the Trinity was capable of proof. Pius IX reprobated their opinions on more than one occasion (Denzinger, 1655 sq., 1666 sq., 1709 sq.), and it was to guard against this tendency that the Vatican Council issued the decrees to which reference has been made. A somewhat similar, though less aggravated, error on the part of Rosmini was condemned, 14 December, 1887 (Denz., 1915).

The doctrine as interpreted in Greek theology​

Nature and personality​

 

[The Learner]

Too long to post the rest.

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: The Blessed Trinity

The term employed to signify the central doctrine of the Christian religion, the truth that in the unity of the Godhead there are three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, these three persons being truly distinct one from another

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Thank you for asking what the Catholic Encylopedia really says.

 

[The Learner]

SUMMA THEOLOGIAE: The unity or plurality in God (Prima Pars, Q ...
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The word 'Trinity'. Can we say that the Son is other than the Father? Can an exclusive term, which seems to exclude otherness, be joined to an essential ...

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Amen. In which words neither is the Father specially named, nor the Son, nor the Holy Spirit; but the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of ...

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There is a ton of proof from the early Church Fathers that the Trinity was taught from the very beginning.

 

[The Learner]

Good night wife is kicking me off.

 

[MA2444]

God rejects all who won't do verse Matt 23:39-- And the Jewish religion refuses. Any Israelite or Gentile can come to Jesus true religion.

Didnt you read Romans 11 at all?

Matthew 23:39
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord....KJV

Where does the verse say that God rejects them? It says they wont see Him until they welcome Him as thier Messiah as a nation. They have not done this yet. They still reject the messiah, Jesus.

That's what the great tribulation is all about. To bring Israel to a saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. This will happen after 2/3 of the Jews die in war. In WW II 1 out of 3 Jews died. So it takes a lot to get Israel to cry out to the Messiah, but they will.

God doesnt reject them. Read Romans 11 it states it plainly.

 

[MA2444]

They are a nation, Yet they reject Jesus= they lose.

They dont lose. I admit it, I flipped over to the last chapter to see who wins...Israel does win. God wins.

 

[Keiw]

I already answered that friend, it has to do with cliques within a congregation, assembly.

a narrow exclusive circle or group of persons
especially : one held together by common interests, views, or purposes
high school cliques

Definition of CLIQUE

a narrow exclusive circle or group of persons; especially : one held together by common interests, views, or purposes… See the full definition

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Fact--God was with 1 single religion in the OT, he is with 1 in the NT. He only needs 1, there is 1 truth.

 

[Keiw]

"Rome" was not the Church, Both Peter and Paul were there.

A little well known History from primary source:

Pliny to the Emperor Trajan​

It is my practice, my lord, to refer to you all matters concerning which I am in doubt. For who can better give guidance to my hesitation or inform my ignorance? I have never before participated in trials of Christians, so I do not know what offenses are to be punished or investigated, or to what extent. And I have been not a little hesitant as to whether there should be any distinction on account of age, or no difference recognized between the very young and the more mature. Is pardon to be granted for repentance, or if a man has once been a Christian is it irrelevant whether he has ceased to be one? Is the name itself to be punished, even without offenses, or only the offenses perpetrated in connection with the name?

Meanwhile, in the case of those who were denounced to me as Christians, I have followed the following procedure: I interrogated them as to whether they were Christians; those who confessed I interrogated a second and a third time, threatening them with punishment; those who persisted I ordered executed. For I had no doubt that, whatever the nature of their creed, stubbornness and inflexible obstinacy surely deserve to be punished. There were others possessed of the same folly; but because they were Roman citizens, I signed an order for them to be transferred to Rome.

Soon accusations spread because of these proceedings, as usually happens, and several incidents occurred. An anonymous document was published containing the names of many persons. Those who denied that they were or had been Christians, when they invoked the gods in words dictated by me, offered prayer with incense and wine to your image, which I had ordered to be brought for this purpose together with statues of the gods, and also cursed Christ – none of which those who are really Christians can, it is said, be forced to do — these I thought should be discharged. Others named by the informer declared that they were Christians, but then denied it, asserting that they had been but had ceased to be, some three years before, others many years, some as much as twenty-five years. They all worshipped your image and the statues of the gods, and cursed Christ. They asserted, however, that the sum and substance of their fault or error had been that they were accustomed to meet on a fixed day before dawn and sing responsively a hymn to Christ as to a god, and to bind themselves by oath, not to do some crime, but not to commit fraud, theft, or adultery, not falsify their trust, nor to refuse to return a trust when called upon to do so. When this was over, it was their custom to depart and to assemble again to partake of food — but ordinary and innocent food.

Even this, they affirmed, they had ceased to do after my edict by which, in accordance with your instructions, I had forbidden political associations. Accordingly, I judged it all the more necessary to find out what the truth was by torturing two female slaves who were called deaconesses. But I discovered nothing else but depraved, excessive superstition. I therefore postponed the investigation and hastened to consult you. For the matter seemed to me to warrant consulting you, especially because of the number involved. For many persons of every age, every rank, and also of both sexes are and will be endangered. For the contagion of this superstition has spread not only to the cities but also to the villages and farms. But it seems possible to check and cure it.

It is certainly quite clear that the temples, which had been almost deserted, have begun to be frequented, that the established religious rites, long neglected, are being resumed, and that from everywhere sacrificial animals are coming, for which until now very few purchasers could be found. Hence it is easy to imagine what a multitude of people can be reformed if an opportunity for repentance is afforded.

Trajan to Pliny​

You observed proper procedure, my dear Pliny, in sifting the cases of those who had been denounced to you as Christians. For it is not possible to lay down any general rule to serve as a kind of fixed standard. They are not to be sought out; if they are denounced and proved guilty, they are to be punished, with this reservation, that whoever denies that he is a Christian and really proves it — that is, by worshiping our gods — even though he was under suspicion in the past, shall obtain pardon through repentance. But anonymously posted accusations ought to have no place in any prosecution. For this is both a dangerous kind of precedent and out of keeping with the spirit of our age.

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The Israelites murdered the apostles. They kept demanding for the apostles to stop teaching in the name of Jesus, the apostles refused their apostacized will. And told them--We must obey God as ruler rather than men.

 

[Keiw]

In What Ways Did Jesus Live As A Jew? - Chosen People Ministries

We can assess the Jewishness of Jesus by His relationship to the people of His day, by His relationship to the Jewish religion, and by His relationship with

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“Was Jesus a Jew? Or was Jesus a Christian?” These are the first two questions I pose when leading workshops on the Jewish roots of Christianity. About half the hands go up for Jewish. More go up for Christian. Several for both. A few aren’t sure how to respond. How would you respond? Does it...

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The biblical record sets out the facts: Jesus Christ is “the son of David, the son of Abraham” (Matthew 1:1). When the angel Gabriel announced Jesus’ birth, he spoke of Jesus’ having “the throne of his father David” and of His “reign over Jacob’s descendants forever” (Luke 1:32–33). In writing of Jesus’ unique priesthood, the author of Hebrews says, “It is clear that our Lord descended from Judah” (Hebrews 7:14). Judah was a son of Jacob, and it’s from his name that we get the word Jew. Mary’s genealogy, in Luke chapter 3, shows that the mother of Jesus was a direct descendant of King David, giving Jesus the legal right to the Jewish throne and establishing without a doubt that Jesus was a Jew by descent.

The biblical record also presents Jesus as living a Jewish lifestyle and keeping the Jewish law. He was reared in a Jewish home, and Jesus’ parents were careful to do all that the law required of them (Luke 2:39). In His ministry, Jesus often taught in synagogues (Matthew 13:54; Luke 6:6; John 18:20), and even in the temple (Luke 21:37). In His teaching, Jesus pointed to the Law and the Prophets as authoritative (Matthew 5:17; 12:5; Mark 10:19), He taught others to keep the law (Matthew 23:1–3), and He Himself observed the commandments. Jesus identified with the religion of the Jews and was considered a rabbi (John 1:38; 6:25), although He strongly rejected the pharisaical reinterpretation of that religion.

As a Jew, Jesus observed Passover (John 2:13), the Feast of Tabernacles (John 7:2, 10), and Hanukkah, (John 10:22). Jesus was called the King of the Jews (Mark 15:2).

The Messiah prophesied in the Old Testament was a Jewish savior, one chosen by God for a special purpose. The Messiah was to serve God by redeeming Israel and then ruling from Zion, bringing peace, righteousness, and security to Israel (see Isaiah 9:6—7; 32:1; Jeremiah 23:5; Zechariah 9:9). Jesus is the Jewish Messiah, the Son of David sent to the Jews, and in His earthly ministry He focused on “the lost sheep of Israel” (Matthew 15:24). But in His death and resurrection, Jesus secured salvation for all who would trust in Him, regardless of their nationality or background. The Jewish Messiah became the worldwide Savior (Ephesians 2:11–22).

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Was Jesus a Jew? Was Jesus a Jew religiously? Was Jesus a Jew ethnically?

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He was born in the Jewish town of Bethlehem and raised in Nazareth. Jesus was fully immersed in Jewish culture, nationality, and religion.

Jesus practiced the religion of first-century Judaism. He was “born under the law” (Galatians 4:4) and grew up learning the Torah and following its precepts. He perfectly obeyed the Mosaic Law—all the commandments, ordinances, and feasts (Hebrews 4:14–16). He not only obeyed the Law; He fulfilled it and brought its requirements to a close (Matthew 5:17–18; Romans 10:4).

Jesus and His disciples observed the Passover (John 2:13, 23; Luke 22:7–8) and the Feast of Tabernacles (John 7:2, 10). He kept an unnamed Jewish feast in John 5:1. He attended worship services and taught in synagogues (Mark 1:21; 3:1; John 6:59; 18:20). He advised others to observe the Law of Moses and offer sacrifices (Mark 1:44). He promoted respect for the Law as it was being taught by the scribes and Pharisees of His day (Matthew 23:1–3). He quoted the Tanakh often (e.g., Mark 12:28–31; Luke 4:4, 8, 12). In all of this, Jesus showed that His religion was Judaism.

As Jesus spoke to a group of Jews, He issued a bold challenge to them: “Can any of you prove me guilty of sin?” (John 8:46). If Jesus had in any way departed from the religious observances of Judaism, His enemies would have immediately seized this opportunity to condemn Him. As it was, Jesus had a knack for silencing His critics (Matthew 22:46).

Jesus had many harsh words for the leaders within His own religion. It’s important to remember that Jesus’ condemnation of the Pharisees, scribes, and Sadducees (Matthew 23) was not a condemnation of the Law or of the Judaism of the day. Jesus’ denunciations of hypocrites, corrupt officials, and the self-righteous were in sharp contrast to His commendation of those who were devout before God and lived out their faith honestly (see Luke 21:1–4). Jesus spoke out against certain religious leaders because “they teach man-made ideas as commands from God” (Matthew 15:9, NLT). On two occasions, Jesus cleared the temple of thieving, rapacious sinners (John 2:14–17; Matthew 21:12–13). These actions were not designed to destroy Judaism but to purify it.

Jesus was an observant Jew who perfectly followed the Law. His death brought an end to the Old Covenant God had made with Israel—shown in the tearing of the temple veil (Mark 15:38)—and established the New Covenant (Luke 22:20). The early church was rooted in Judaism and Jewish messianism, and the earliest believers in Christ were mostly Jews. But as the believers proclaimed the risen Jesus as the Messiah, the unbelieving Jews rejected them, and they were forced to make a clean break from Judaism (see Acts 13:45–47).

Jesus was the Messiah that the Jews had been anticipating. He was born into the religion of Judaism, fulfilled the Jewish religion, and, when His own rejected Him, He gave His life as a sacrifice for the sins of the world. His blood ratified the New Covenant, and, soon after His death, Judaism lost its temple, its priesthood, and its sacrifices.

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Jesus was Jewish, he came specifically for the Israelite nation-they rejected him and sent him to his death. Thus God rejected them, it was the final straw, out of their( God and Jesus) great love, left the door open to them-Matt 23:39--They outright refuse to this day.

 

[Keiw]

The Blessed Trinity​

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• Dogma of the Trinity
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• Proof of the doctrine from Tradition
• The Trinity as a mystery
• The doctrine as interpreted in Greek theology
• The doctrine as interpreted in Latin theology

The dogma of the Trinity​

The Trinity is the term employed to signify the central doctrine of the Christian religion — the truth that in the unity of the Godhead there are Three Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, these Three Persons being truly distinct one from another.


Thus, in the words of the Athanasian Creed: "the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God." In this Trinity of Persons the Son is begotten of the Father by an eternal generation, and the Holy Spirit proceeds by an eternal procession from the Father and the Son. Yet, notwithstanding this difference as to origin, the Persons are co-eternal and co-equal: all alike are uncreated and omnipotent. This, the Church teaches, is the revelation regarding God's nature which Jesus Christ, the Son of God, came upon earth to deliver to the world: and which she proposes to man as the foundation of her whole dogmatic system.

In Scripture there is as yet no single term by which the Three Divine Persons are denoted together. The word trias (of which the Latin trinitas is a translation) is first found in Theophilus of Antioch about A.D. 180. He speaks of "the Trinity of God [the Father], His Word and His Wisdom (To Autolycus II.15). The term may, of course, have been in use before his time. Afterwards it appears in its Latin form of trinitas in Tertullian (On Pudicity 21). In the next century the word is in general use. It is found in many passages of Origen ("In Ps. xvii", 15). The first creed in which it appears is that of Origen's pupil, Gregory Thaumaturgus. In his Ekthesis tes pisteos composed between 260 and 270, he writes:


It is manifest that a dogma so mysterious presupposes a Divine revelation. When the fact of revelation, understood in its full sense as the speech of God to man, is no longer admitted, the rejection of the doctrine follows as a necessary consequence. For this reason it has no place in the Liberal Protestantism of today. The writers of this school contend that the doctrine of the Trinity, as professed by the Church, is not contained in the New Testament, but that it was first formulated in the second century and received final approbation in the fourth, as the result of the Arian and Macedonian controversies. In view of this assertion it is necessary to consider in some detail the evidence afforded by Holy Scripture. Attempts have been made recently to apply the more extreme theories of comparative religion to the doctrine of the Trinity, and to account for it by an imaginary law of nature compelling men to group the objects of their worship in threes. It seems needless to give more than a reference to these extravagant views, which serious thinkers of every school reject as destitute of foundation.

Anyone teaching God is a trinity is actually calling Jesus and Paul liars.

 

[Keiw]

Didnt you read Romans 11 at all?

Matthew 23:39
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord....KJV

Where does the verse say that God rejects them? It says they wont see Him until they welcome Him as thier Messiah as a nation. They have not done this yet. They still reject the messiah, Jesus.

That's what the great tribulation is all about. To bring Israel to a saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. This will happen after 2/3 of the Jews die in war. In WW II 1 out of 3 Jews died. So it takes a lot to get Israel to cry out to the Messiah, but they will.

God doesnt reject them. Read Romans 11 it states it plainly.

Verse 23:38--Jesus tells them-your house( religion) is abandoned to you--means they are cut off of being Gods chosen unless they do verse 39-they won't.

 

[Keiw]

They dont lose. I admit it, I flipped over to the last chapter to see who wins...Israel does win. God wins.

Spiritual Israel wins-meaning Gods chosen. Literal Israel rejects Jesus to this day. And will until its to late.

 

[MA2444]

Verse 23:38--Jesus tells them-your house( religion) is abandoned to you--means they are cut off of being Gods chosen unless they do verse 39-they won't.

Is that what that means? Lets take a look at it....

House oikos G3624
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]

1. a house
   1. an inhabited house, home
   2. any building whatever
      1. of a palace
      2. the house of God, the tabernacle
   3. any dwelling place
      1. of the human body as the abode of demons that possess it
      2. of tents, and huts, and later, of the nests, stalls, lairs, of animals
      3. the place where one has fixed his residence, one's settled abode, domicile
2. the inmates of a house, all the persons forming one family, a household
   1. the family of God, of the Christian Church, of the church of the Old and New Testaments
3. stock, family, descendants of one

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Strong’s Definitions [?](Strong’s Definitions Legend)
οἶκος oîkos, oy'-kos; of uncertain affinity; a dwelling (more or less extensive, literal or figurative); by implication, a family (more or less related, literally or figuratively):—home, house(-hold), temple..../(Blueletterbible)

So it doesnt say that it means religion. I'm sorry Brother, try again?

Matthew 23
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord..../KJV

And it doesnt say that they are not the chosen anymore at all.
Got anything else?

 

[Keiw]

Is that what that means? Lets take a look at it....

House oikos G3624
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]

1. a house
   1. an inhabited house, home
   2. any building whatever
      1. of a palace
      2. the house of God, the tabernacle
   3. any dwelling place
      1. of the human body as the abode of demons that possess it
      2. of tents, and huts, and later, of the nests, stalls, lairs, of animals
      3. the place where one has fixed his residence, one's settled abode, domicile
2. the inmates of a house, all the persons forming one family, a household
   1. the family of God, of the Christian Church, of the church of the Old and New Testaments
3. stock, family, descendants of one

Click for Synonyms
Strong’s Definitions [?](Strong’s Definitions Legend)
οἶκος oîkos, oy'-kos; of uncertain affinity; a dwelling (more or less extensive, literal or figurative); by implication, a family (more or less related, literally or figuratively):—home, house(-hold), temple..../(Blueletterbible)

So it doesnt say that it means religion. I'm sorry Brother, try again?

Matthew 23
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord..../KJV

And it doesnt say that they are not the chosen anymore at all.
Got anything else?

It is speaking about them not being Gods chosen anymore, unless they do verse 39. The renting of the banner, the moment Jesus died signified they are cut off.

 

[MA2444]

It is speaking about them not being Gods chosen anymore, unless they do verse 39. The renting of the banner, the moment Jesus died signified they are cut off.

Based on what though? I showed you that Greek doesnt define House as religion. There's not one word about not being chosen anymore or being cut off.

SO what you have said continues to be your opinion.

 

[The Learner]

Jesus was Jewish, he came specifically for the Israelite nation-they rejected him and sent him to his death. Thus God rejected them, it was the final straw, out of their( God and Jesus) great love, left the door open to them-Matt 23:39--They outright refuse to this day.

Colossians 2:9

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9 I say this because all of God lives in Christ fully, even in his life on earth.
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For in Him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
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for in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily,
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For in Him all the fullness of Deity (the Godhead) dwells in bodily form [completely expressing the divine essence of God].
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For in Him the whole fullness of Deity (the Godhead) continues to dwell in bodily form [giving complete expression of the divine nature].
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For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
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For the entire fullness of God’s nature dwells bodily in Christ,
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All the fullness of deity lives in Christ’s body.
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For in him, bodily, lives the fullness of all that God is.
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God lives fully in Christ.
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For in him dwells all the fulness of the Godhead bodily;
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because in Him dwells all the fullness of the Deity bodily.
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For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead corporeally;
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I say this because all of God lives in Christ fully, even in his life on earth.
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The whole nature of God himself lives in Christ, in his human body.
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For all the fullness of God’s being dwells bodily in Christ.
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For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
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For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
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For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
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All of God lives in Christ’s body,
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For the full content of divine nature lives in Christ, in his humanity,
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For the entire fullness of God’s nature dwells bodily in Christ,
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All of God lives fully in Christ (even when Christ was on earth).
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because all the essence of deity inhabits him in bodily form.
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Yet it is in him that God gives a full and complete expression of himself (within the physical limits that he set himself in Christ). Moreover, your own completeness is only realised in him, who is the authority over all authorities, and the supreme power over all powers.
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For in him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily,
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For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
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For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
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For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells bodily,
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because in him all the fullness of deity dwells bodily,
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For in Christ there is all of God in a human body;
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Watch out for people who try to dazzle you with big words and intellectual double-talk. They want to drag you off into endless arguments that never amount to anything. They spread their ideas through the empty traditions of human beings and the empty superstitions of spirit beings. But that’s not the way of Christ. Everything of God gets expressed in him, so you can see and hear him clearly. You don’t need a telescope, a microscope, or a horoscope to realize the fullness of Christ, and the emptiness of the universe without him. When you come to him, that fullness comes together for you, too. His power extends over everything.
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For in Him lives all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
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For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells in bodily form,
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All of God lives in Christ’s body,
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For in him dwells the whole fullness of the deity bodily,
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For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,
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For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,
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For it is in him that the entire fullness of deity dwells in bodily form,
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All of God lives fully in Christ (even when Christ was on earth),
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For in him all the fullness of deity lives in bodily form,
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God’s whole nature is living in Christ in human form.
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For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,
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For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,
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For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;
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For Christ is not only God-like, He is God in human flesh.
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For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body.
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For in him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily,
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For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
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For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
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For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
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For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
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In him, you see, all the full measure of divinity has taken up bodily residence.
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Because in Moshiach kol melo Elohim (all the plentitude of G-d) finds its bodily maon laShechinah (dwelling place for the Shechinah).
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For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead, bodily.
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For in him the whole fulness of deity dwells bodily,
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For in him the whole fulness of deity dwells bodily,
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For all the fullness of Deity lives bodily in Him,
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You see, all that is God, all His fullness, resides in His body.
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For in him all the fullness of the Deity dwells bodily,
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Christ has everything that God has.
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For in him dwelleth body-like all the fullness of the Godhead.
YLT
because in him doth tabernacle all the fulness of the Godhead bodily,

NWT
because it is in him that all the fullness of the divine quality dwells bodily.

 

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Colossians 2:9



For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily (oti en autw katoikei pan to plhrwma thv qeothtov swmatikwv). In this sentence, given as the reason (oti, because) for the preceding claim for Christ as the measure of human knowledge Paul states the heart of his message about the Person of Christ. There dwells (at home) in Christ not one or more aspects of the Godhead (the very essence of God, from qeos, deitav) and not to be confused with qeiotev in Romans 1:20 (from qeiov, the

quality of God, divinitas), here only in N.T. as qeiothv only in Romans 1:20. The distinction is observed in Lucian and Plutarch. Qeiothv occurs in the papyri and inscriptions. Paul here asserts that "all the plhrwma of the Godhead," not just certain aspects, dwells in Christ and in bodily form (swmatikwv, late and rare adverb, in Plutarch, inscription, here only in N.T.), dwells now in Christ in his glorified humanity (Philippians 2:9-11), "the body of his glory" (tw swmati thv dochv). The fulness of the God-head was in Christ before the Incarnation (John 1:1, John 1:18; Philippians 2:6), during the Incarnation (John 1:14, John 1:18; I John 1:1-3). It was the Son of God who came in the likeness of men (Philippians 2:7). Paul here disposes of the Docetic theory that Jesus had no human body as well as the Cerinthian separation between the man Jesus and the aeon Christ. He asserts plainly the deity and the humanity of Jesus Christ in corporeal form.

Colossians 2:9 (KJV) - Robertson's Word Pictures (NT)

For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

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Colossians 2:9-10. For in him dwelleth Inhabiteth, κατοικει , continually abideth; all the fulness of the Godhead Believers may be filled with all the fulness of God, Ephesians 3:19; but in Christ dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead, the most full Godhead, Colossians 1:19; bodily Really, substantially. The very substance of God, if one might so speak, dwells in Christ in the most full sense. “It is plain,” says Dr. Doddridge, “that the Godhead is an anglicism equivalent to Deity. Compare Acts 17:29. And I cannot think that these wonderful words are intended merely to signify that God hath lodged in the hands of Christ a fulness of gifts, to be conferred upon men, as if the passage were merely parallel to John 1:16-17, as Mr. Pierce explains it; while Socinus sinks it yet lower, as if it only referred to his complete knowledge of the divine will. I assuredly believe, that as it contains an evident allusion to the Shechinah, in which God dwelt, so it ultimately refers to the adorable mystery of the union of the divine and human natures in the person of the glorious Emmanuel, which makes him such an object of our hope and confidence, as the most exalted creature, with the most glorious endowments, could never of himself be.” And ye are complete in him You have in and from him every thing necessary to your salvation, all the wisdom and knowledge, the righteousness and strength, the holiness, support, and comfort that you stand in need of, to enable you to glorify God on earth, and to prepare you for being glorified with him in heaven. But the original expression, εν αυτω πεπληρωμενοι , is literally, ye are filled by him. See on John 1:16. Christ is filled with God, and ye are filled with, or by, Christ. The fulness of Christ overflows his church, Psalms 133:3. He is originally full, but our fulness is derived from him. Who is the head of all principality and power Of angels as well as men. Not from angels, therefore, but from their Head, are we to ask whatever we stand in need of. The supremacy of Christ over all created beings, is asserted in many other passages of Scripture. See the margin. A doctrine this which affords the greatest consolation to the people of God, as it assures them that nothing befalls them without his permission, and that all things shall work together for their good.

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Verse 9​

9. For—"Because." Their "philosophy" ( :-) is not "after Christ," as all true philosophy is, everything which comes not from, and tends not to, Him, being a delusion; "For in Him (alone) dwelleth" as in a temple, c.

the fulness— (Colossians 1:19 (NAS)

19 For it was the Father's good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him,
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10 "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own, but the Father, as He remains in Me, does His works.
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of the Godhead—The Greek (theotes) means the ESSENCE and NATURE of the Godhead, not merely the divine perfections and attributes of Divinity (Greek, "theiotes"). He, as man, was not merely God-like, but in the fullest sense, God.

bodily—not merely as before His incarnation, but now "bodily in Him" as the incarnate word (John 1:14 (NAS)

14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us; and we saw His glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
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18 No one has seen God at any time; God the only Son, who is in the arms of the Father, He has explained Him.
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" tooltipenable="true" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: none; cursor: pointer; color: rgb(200, 83, 53); margin-left: 2px; margin-right: 2px;">John 1:18). Believers, by union with Him, partake of His fulness of the divine nature (John 1:16 (NAS)
16 For of His fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace.
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4 Through these He has granted to us His precious and magnificent promises, so that by them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world on account of lust.
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Verse 9
For in him (in Christ) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead (of the divinity) corporally.[3] That is, in the person of Christ, the Son of God, really and substantially united to our human nature. Not inhabiting, as in a temple as the Nestorian heretics pretended, nor as by his grace in men’s souls, but so as to be personally or hypostatically united to the soul and body of Christ. (Witham)

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II. The Antidote.-"For in Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily, and in Him ye are made full, who is the head of all principality and power."

These words may be a reason for the warning-"Take heed, for"; or they may be a reason for the implied exclusion of any teaching which is not after Christ. The statement of its characteristics carries in itself its condemnation. Anything "not after Christ" is ipso facto wrong, and to be avoided-"for," etc. "In Him" is placed with emphasis at the beginning, and implies "and nowhere else." "Dwelleth," that is, has its permanent abode; where the tense is to be noticed also, as pointing to the ascended Christ. "All the fulness of the Godhead," that is, the whole unbounded powers and attributes of Deity, where is to be noted the use of the abstract term. Godhead, instead of the more usual God, in order to express with the utmost force the thought of the indwelling in Christ of the whole essence and nature of God. "Bodily," that points to the Incarnation, and so is an advance upon the passage in the former chapter (Colossians 1:19 (NAS)

19 For it was the Father's good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him,
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" tooltipenable="true" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: none; cursor: pointer; color: rgb(200, 83, 53); margin-left: 2px; margin-right: 2px;">Colossians 1:19), which speaks of "the fulness" dwelling in the Eternal Word; whereas this speaks of the Eternal Word in whom the fulness dwelt becoming flesh. So we are pointed to the glorified corporeal humanity of Jesus Christ in His exaltation as the abode, now and forever, of all the fulness of the Divine nature, which is thereby brought very near to us. This grand truth seems to Paul to shiver to pieces all the dreams of these teachers about angel mediators, and to brand as folly every attempt to learn truth and God anywhere else but in Him.


If He be the one sole temple of Deity in whom all Divine glories are stored, why go anywhere else in order to see or to possess God? It is folly; for not only are all these glories stored in Him, but they are so stored on purpose to be reached by us. Therefore the Apostle goes on, "and in Him ye are made full"; which sets forth two things as true in the inward life of all Christians, namely, their living incorporation in and union with Christ, and their consequent participation in His fulness. Every one of us may enter into that most real and close union with Jesus Christ by the power of continuous faith in Him. So may we be grafted into the Vine, and builded into the Rock. If thus we keep our hearts in contact with His heart and let Him lay His lip on our lips, He will breathe into us the breath of His own life, and ye shall live because He lives, and in our measure, as He lives. All the fulness of God is in Him, that from Him it may pass into us. We might start back from such bold words if we did not remember that the same apostle who here tells us that that fulness dwells in Jesus, crowns his wonderful prayer for the Ephesian Christians with that daring petition, "that ye may be filled with all the fulness of God." The treasure was lodged in the earthen vessel of Christ’s manhood that it might be within our reach. He brings the fiery blessing of a Divine life from Heaven to earth enclosed in the feeble reed of His manhood, that it may kindle kindred fire in many a heart. Freely the water of life flows into all cisterns from the ever fresh stream, into which the infinite depth of that unfathomable sea of good pours itself. Every kind of spiritual blessing is given therein. That stream, like a river of molten lava, holds many precious things in its flaming current, and will cool into many shapes and deposit many rare and rich gifts. According to our need it will vary itself, being to each what the moment most requires, -wisdom, or strength, or beauty, or courage, or patience. Out of it will come whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report, as Rabbinical legends tell us that the manna tasted to each man like the food for which he wished most.

This process of receiving of all the Divine fulness is a continuous one. We can but be approximating to the possession of the infinite treasure which is ours in Christ; and since the treasure is infinite, and we can indefinitely grow in capacity of receiving God, there must be an eternal continuance of the filling and an eternal increase of the measure of what fills us. Our natures are elastic, and in love and knowledge, as well as in purity and capacity for blessedness, there are no bounds to be set to their possible expansion. They will be widened by bliss into a greater capacity for bliss. The indwelling Christ will "enlarge the place of His habitation," and as the walls stretch and the roofs soar, He will fill the greater house with the light of His presence and the fragrance of His name. The condition of this continuous reception of the abundant gift of a Divine life is abiding in Jesus. It is "in Him" that we are "being filled full"-and it is only so long as we continue in Him that we continue full. We cannot bear away our supplies, as one might a full bucket from a well, and keep it full. All the grace will trickle out and disappear unless we live in constant union with our Lord, whose Spirit passes into our deadness only so long as we are joined to Him.

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