Theosis vs Christlikeness

[Lizbeth]

The revealed nature of Christ by the Apostles is suitable for Jesus being the first fruits and second Adam. His importance vanishes regarding our guarantee of our inheritance as soon as one speculates he is anything but a mere man.

The first man Adam was of the earth, earthy..........the second Adam became a quickening spirit. Jesus was not a "mere" man because He came from above, unlike the first Adam. And it is necessary to believe that He came from above, sent by the Father. God is not telling anyone to put their faith and trust in a mere man because the bible says cursed is everyone who trusts in man.

Jhn 16:27-28

For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.

I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father


But no-one can believe/receive this without the Holy Spirit....ye must be born again. To reject His deity is to reject Him, who He was and is.

 

[Wrangler]

Jhn 16:27-28

For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.

Proof that Jesus is NOT God is that he is OF or FROM God.

For some reason, trinitarians interpret these prepositions - of and from - as a verb, “is.”

To reject His deity is to reject Him, who He was and is.

This contradicts Scripture. The Bible teaches that Jesus was a man (mere man, if you prefer) who was Anointed by God for substitutionary punishment, which is death. Then, God rewarded Jesus by giving him all authority in heaven and Earth.

To deny Jesus’ TOTAL sacrifice, pretend he only sacrificed 1 of his 2 natures, is to reject him, who he was and is. You cannot just ignore Scripture that goes against your IDOL. Jesus is the second Adam, the first fruits, which guarantee our inheritance. To achieve this, he must be a mere man, like the rest of us.

 

[amigo de christo]

You need two chalkboards.

On the first chalkboard, write 100 times = the WORD came down from the FATHER and became a man

On the second chalkboard, write 100 times = Christ/the WORD is from ABOVE @Wrangler is from below

After you do this, take a good look at the two chalkboards and then let us know if you can SEE the Significance of Christ

Continue to contend for the true faith my friend . We march onwards in the LORD my friend .

 

[amigo de christo]

More unbelief!!!

this is where all the finding common ground junk
all the removal of the diety of Christ
was always all about . They want us to believe THE LIE my friend .
Take a peek at this . THIS IS OF ANTI CHRIST .

 

[amigo de christo]

Proof that Jesus is NOT God is that he is OF or FROM God.

For some reason, trinitarians interpret these prepositions - of and from - as a verb, “is.”


This contradicts Scripture. The Bible teaches that Jesus was a man (mere man, if you prefer) who was Anointed by God for substitutionary punishment, which is death. Then, God rewarded Jesus by giving him all authority in heaven and Earth.

To deny Jesus’ TOTAL sacrifice, pretend he only sacrificed 1 of his 2 natures, is to reject him, who he was and is. You cannot just ignore Scripture that goes against your IDOL. Jesus is the second Adam, the first fruits, which guarantee our inheritance. To achieve this, he must be a mere man, like the rest of us.

prepare to go broke funding st judes .
I am gonna expose this anti christ intefaith hope and unity junk . Or you can join me in the fight against this lie
THIS IS OF ANTI CHRIST wrangler . NOT GOD , anti christ .

 

[amigo de christo]

The first man Adam was of the earth, earthy..........the second Adam became a quickening spirit. Jesus was not a "mere" man because He came from above, unlike the first Adam. And it is necessary to believe that He came from above, sent by the Father. God is not telling anyone to put their faith and trust in a mere man because the bible says cursed is everyone who trusts in man.

Jhn 16:27-28

For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.

I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father


But no-one can believe/receive this without the Holy Spirit....ye must be born again. To reject His deity is to reject Him, who He was and is.

march on in the trenches dear sister . you are loved and prayed for as well .

 

[amigo de christo]

That is to open the real Scriptures not the water downed JW bible with its deliberate mistranslated verses.

Want to start a new religion?
Take the Scriptures, make modifications and voila. Mohammad did it, more recently Joseph Smith (Mormon) followed by Russell (JW), two young and successful new religions. What they all have in common is that the Scriptures are wrong -

Mohammad - the Jews messed up the Scriptures, the Quran is the correct one.
Smith - all other churches were participating in apostasy, look what I have, the book of Mormon.
Russell - let's throw away 1900 years of Christianity, they were all wrong about Jesus and we are the only ones who have it right.

It's a working system as we can currently see in populist politics, kick against the ruling establishment and you will get enough followers.

And since we are discussing JW theology, why did Russell and company replaced the cross with a stake in whole the NT? How can he know 1900 years after? Well of course you got to be different to have success, apparently degrade Christ was not enough.

This is of anti christ . People find it so hard to beleive that leaders and teachers can use the NAME OF JESUS
and yet preach an anti christ message . LET NO MAN fall for this . we must make our stand now and contend for the true faith
once delivered long ago by the first men and CHRIST . We are in a final hours battle that has raged
throughout the centuries but is now hitting a great peak in this last hour .

 

[Lizbeth]

this is where all the finding common ground junk
all the removal of the diety of Christ
was always all about . They want us to believe THE LIE my friend .
Take a peek at this . THIS IS OF ANTI CHRIST .

Absolute lie and hard to listen to...this is leading souls to perdition, not to salvation. It's not from the mind of Christ but from the mind of a virtue-signalling (aka self-righteous) man. I wonder what @Episkopos thinks of this.

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen brother Amigo. "Those who were appointed to eternal life BELIEVED." There are many scrips as we know, but this one alone tells us something about those who did not believe.

Many are being prepared by deceptive leaders and peoples throughout the denominations of christendom
They infiltrated us BIG TIME about twenty five years back .
This is why we see such animosity towards truth , escalating to even against those who
even now remind people of the dire need to BELEIVE .
EVEN the gospel is under attack by this generation of christendom .
People thinking they so spiritiual , so advanced , so higher walk
YET Their knowledge DENIES EVEN the SIMPLE GOSPEL . its all a hoax sister .
They have to bring a essay to promote their unbeleif
and yet ONE LINE of scrip can prove them dead wrong .

 

[Lizbeth]

Proof that Jesus is NOT God is that he is OF or FROM God.

For some reason, trinitarians interpret these prepositions - of and from - as a verb, “is.”


This contradicts Scripture. The Bible teaches that Jesus was a man (mere man, if you prefer) who was Anointed by God for substitutionary punishment, which is death. Then, God rewarded Jesus by giving him all authority in heaven and Earth.

To deny Jesus’ TOTAL sacrifice, pretend he only sacrificed 1 of his 2 natures, is to reject him, who he was and is. You cannot just ignore Scripture that goes against your IDOL. Jesus is the second Adam, the first fruits, which guarantee our inheritance. To achieve this, he must be a mere man, like the rest of us.

Once again you prove you don't have ears to hear. I'm sorry for you.

 

[amigo de christo]

Absolute lie and hard to listen to...this is leading souls to perdition, not to salvation. It's not from the mind of Christ but from the mind of a virtue-signalling (aka self-righteous) man. I wonder what @Episkopos thinks of this.

episkopos admitted he was inclusivist . THIS POPE IS ONE .
so i would not be a bit suprised if he has no problem with that message .
THEY ALL cliam to BELEIVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST and yet SURE make the claim and give the impression
there is NO NEED to beleive . People act like false teachers dont exist .
That somehow if one just says and claims , LIKE OPRHA WIMPHREY , LIKE this pope , like scores of others
that somehow they are brethren and not false .
PEOPLE FORGET the warnings JESUS gave , That even peter and paul gave
FALSE BRETHREN , false teachers
bringing in DAMNAMBLE heresays , EVEN DENYING THE LORD that brought them .
People in this day and age
have no idea THAT MANY NOW who even cliam to BELIEVE IN JESUS
REALLY ONLY USE HIS NAME TO DENY HIM . many can do that . People better watch out .

 

[Gottservant]

"ye are gods"

 

[amigo de christo]

Once again you prove you don't have ears to hear. I'm sorry for you.

People dont seem to understand at all sister .
Because they been put to sleep by men .
by false love , false doctrines and etc , which they Loved to hear .
Let me give us a warning peter gave THE CHURCH
when you read this , LOOK at the video and you TELL ME if that is not EXACTLY what peter and others warned would occur
specially near the end .
Just as there was false prophets amongst the people
so too shall there arise false teachers Amongst you
bringing in DAMNABLE heresays , Denying even the LORD that brought them .
By reason of whom the way of TRUTH shall be EVIL SPOKEN of
False teachers AMONGST YOU
and peter warned and wrote , AND MANY SHALL FOLLOW THEIR PERNSCIOUS ways
by reason of whom the way of TRUTH shall be EVIL SPOKEN OF
SISTER ITS HERE and its massive now . And try bringing the biblical version of CHRIST ,
HIS words , the apostels words to them. THAT VERSION they speak EVIL OF .

 

[amigo de christo]

"ye are gods"

i have said ye are gods , but ye shall die like men . watch out for the lil god syndrome .

 

[Gottservant]

i have said ye are gods , but ye shall die like men . watch out for the lil god syndrome .

let God be God and Man be Man

 

[ProDeo]

Proof that Jesus is NOT God is that he is OF or FROM God.

For some reason, trinitarians interpret these prepositions - of and from - as a verb, “is.”


This contradicts Scripture. The Bible teaches that Jesus was a man (mere man, if you prefer) who was Anointed by God for substitutionary punishment, which is death. Then, God rewarded Jesus by giving him all authority in heaven and Earth.

To deny Jesus’ TOTAL sacrifice, pretend he only sacrificed 1 of his 2 natures, is to reject him, who he was and is. You cannot just ignore Scripture that goes against your IDOL. Jesus is the second Adam, the first fruits, which guarantee our inheritance. To achieve this, he must be a mere man, like the rest of us.

Throwing away almost 2000 years of Christianity by changing Scripture, you dare.

 

[David in NJ]

"ye are gods"

"but ye shall die like men"

 

[Wrangler]

Throwing away almost 2000 years of Christianity by changing Scripture, you dare.

The man-is-god thesis began in the 4th century. It is foreign to the Bible writers and the monotheism of Christ.

 

[Wrangler]

Once again you prove you don't have ears to hear. I'm sorry for you.

For us, there is one God, the Father. 1 Cor 8:6

Eisegesis is to read into this the trinitarian god.

 

[David in NJ]

The man-is-god thesis began in the 4th century. It is foreign to the Bible writers and the monotheism of Christ.

How can Christ be 'only a man' when HE existed before man and HE created man.

The Greatest Love, the Greatest Truth and the Greatest Joy you will ever know is to know the Savior who took your punishment on the Cross,
so that you @Wrangler may be Washed from your sins and come into Fellowship with the FATHER, with the SON and with the HOLY SPIRIT.

i was a RCC prisoner until the Day that the FATHER called me to the Lord Jesus Christ = Today i am FREE, in the Love of God

You can be also, when you come to the LIGHT = JESUS is the LIGHT of the World

Then Jesus spoke saying, “I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.”