Sorry i meant that he wanted to... There were a few he wanted to remove including Hebrews and James, but didn't.
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The Wisdom of Sirach/Ecclesiasticus
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My favorite outside the bible is 1 Enoch!
Lol!!LoL. That's why I'm here at present. I'm fasting, and boredom is my worst enemy. But if there's one thing you won't be around here, it's bored. It's like the true "Temple of Doom." You might get something really good out of it, but the situation is dangerous in so many ways, Lol.
I just want to throw this out there btw
I'm not a theologian.
I never took any Biblical courses in anything.
I don't want to lead anyone astray and be judged for it after I die so ...
Just keep that in mind
I'm not a theologian.
I never took any Biblical courses in anything.
I don't want to lead anyone astray and be judged for it after I die so ...
Just keep that in mind
Or I could write my own...how about this?
"The Spirit of the mighty God dwells within me?" - the book of Truman "It must be true, man!" Lol
"The Spirit of the mighty God dwells within me?" - the book of Truman "It must be true, man!" Lol
Pythagorean12
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What about the other 2?;)
It's a shame the only bible to date that includes the writings of Enoch are those related to the Ethiopian church.
Is anyone else having trouble getting straight answers from Google? Especially Biblical questions.
It seems like the algorithms are made to not give you a decent source. It is like it is skirting around a bit.
It seems like the algorithms are made to not give you a decent source. It is like it is skirting around a bit.
I'm glad it was there! I went to visit a friend one night. As I sat down at her dining table, she left the room to get us some drinks. I noticed a bible on the table in front of me. I hadn't touched a bible in more than ten years.
I flipped it open and started reading. As I watched, the words jumped up off of the page and when they were in front of my face, "Poof!" I was standing under a clear, moonlit, star-filled night sky, looking out across a distance of perhaps a half mile.
There was an army on horseback that stretched to the horizon! The army was riding on clouds. I was aware of someone standing to my right, though I wasn't able to look to see who it was.
My gaze was directed out into the army and as my sight was zoomed in, I saw that the riders were carrying weapons. My gaze was then directed to the front line of the army where I saw that instead of weapons, the riders were carrying musical instruments. My gaze was then directed to an individual and I saw that it was me! (I'm a worship leader)
Poof! I was back at my friend's table.
Later in my life I started walking with the Lord and had read the book of Jude many times, though I'd never connected the vision with vvs 14 and 15.
25 years later, in April 2014, the Lord led me to read 1 Enoch ch 1 (R.H. Charles translation) and when I got to verse 9, I saw that it was describing the vision.
So 1 Enoch is special to me. Enoch is not something I'd recommend the young in the Lord or unstable to read, though I believe much, if not all of it is inspired. It is strong meat meant for those mature enough to digest it. Shalom.
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Hidden In Him
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I'm avoiding DuckDuckGo too, because of that racial hiring thing. Using qwant but sometimes just have to jump around because the results aren't the best.
I don't know if the results are bad or because the internet is triggering for me and I can't focus, but I am not finding answers.
See this is why I need a house with actual paper books
@FluffyYellowDuck It's fair to say - exact to say - that it's Scripture that is God-breathed. Other, general wisdom might at times be helpful but by definition isn't God-breathed, and thus does not carry God's authority.
It's interesting that the so called Protestant Apocrypha has even more books that the ones used by the Roman Catholic Church.
However, just because it's professedly Protestant, doesn't mean it's Biblical.
Have you read Sirach, @farouk? It was part of the Bible.
If you haven't and you want to take a peek, here is a link... Someone else may know of a better translation.
If you can find something that doesn't match up with what the Bible says, I'm definitely interested. We should analyze some things.
Bible Gateway passage: Sirach 1 - Good News Translation
Even in those editions of the King James which contained the Apocrypha - including Sirach / Ecclesiasticus - it is stated in the 39 Articles that they "[do] not apply them to establish any doctrine". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirach
Glancing through the 39 Articles right now and it looks like it was not established until 1563 by the Anglican church... The KJV appears to have not come out until 1611.
From what I can tell, and anyone correct me if I'm wrong, it looks like it existed in scripture before that time and before Jesus, and 2/3rds seemed to be included in the Greek Septuagint.
Isn't that would the NT writers and Jesus would have read?
There's no evidence that the Lord Jesus accepted the Apocrypha as Scripture.
Right but it being apocrypha would have been a concept later on in the 16th century.
If Jesus himself read from the Septuagint and it was included, the concept of "apocrypha" wouldn't exist
If it wasn't the inspired Word of God in the first place, no later label would alter the situation.
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