The problem with the Bible alone!

[LTJMP14]

Nothin' like good, old-fashion DENIAL in the face of incontrovertible evidence. . .

You don't comprehend the English too well, do you?

 

[GRACE ambassador]

9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived THE GRACE That Was Given Unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

Precious friend, rockytopva, Excellent post. The Bible Further Confirms God's Transition From "Law Over To HIS PURE GRACE!" So, that "WHO to follow" as they "followed CHRIST," Is Extremely Abundant And Clear! Amen? Is it Peter, JAMES, Or Paul? ie:
(1) Rightly Divided - "Brief" Intro!:

"Prophecy/Law" {earthly} gospel of the kingdom, ISRAEL "Prominent!" {past/future}
Salvation is by “faith + works” = believe AND be water baptized…
ie: “faith WITHOUT works is DEAD!” This is For The TWELVE apostles!

Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15 KJB! ) From "Things That DIFFER":

"Mystery/GRACE!" {Heavenly!} Gospel Of GRACE, Jew And Gentile "Equal!" {Current, Today!} for The Body Of CHRIST! By GRACE Through faith are ye {Eternally} SAVED!
ie: “faith WITHOUT works Is ALIVE!” THIS Was Given To God's ONE apostle, Paul!

Question: Do "we today" follow The LAW and Peter/The Eleven, OR: According to
CHRIST's Commandments, Given TO PAUL, Under PURE GRACE:

1Co_4:16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.
1Co_11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of CHRIST.

Seems Plain and Clear to me...

(2) More Excellent “study”:
The Great Commission

(3) Be Richly Enlightened, Encouraged And Edified!
God's Simple Will!

 

[quietthinker]

The problem with the Bible alone is that it scuttles the many appendages men want to add.

 

[LTJMP14]

The problem with the Bible alone is that it scuttles the many appendages men want to add.

Appendages to the Bible aren't needed.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Soooo - if YOU guys are "right" and we're "wrong" - WHY all the factions??

Because we have a lot of unsaved people who don't have the Spirit in them in our midst. They are the ones that cause divisions:

"These are the ones who cause divisions, who are worldly and devoid of the Spirit." Jude 1:19​

And they will remain among us until the harvest (now that the Catholic and Protestant churches have stopped killing them, lol):

"The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will weed out of His kingdom every cause of sin and all who practice lawlessness." Matthew 13:41
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Until then, those who can see can not be led astray by someone who can't see. See?

“Every plant that My heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by its roots. Disregard them! They are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” Matthew 15:13-14​

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[Ferris Bueller]

Then, perhaps YOU can tell me:
WHICH one is the Authority spoken of in Matt. 18:15-18 that settles matters between the brethren?
If a Baptist and a Calvinist have a matter to settle - WHO do they turn to?

WHICH one teaches the right doctrines??
Some Protestant denominations believe in baptismal regeneration, while others do not.
Some believe in soul-sleep, while others do not.
Some believe in the total depravity of man, while others do not.
Some believe in the Holy Trinity, while others do not.
Some believe in doctrine of “once saved, always saved”, while others do not.
Some believe in a pre-tribulation “Rapture”, while others do not.
Some believe that only those who were predestined will make it to heaven, while others do not.
Some believe that some were predestined for hell, while others do not.
Some believe in a woman’s right to choose abortion, while others do not.
Some believe that practicing homosexuality is a sin, while others do not.
Most believe in contraception, while others do not – and the list goes on.

WHO is right??

The one whom the Spirit of discernment reveals is right. That's who's right.

"You, however, have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth." 1 John 2:20

"...as for you, the anointing you received from Him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. ...just as His true and genuine anointing teaches you about all things..." 1 John 2:27​

 

[BreadOfLife]

Ignoring History is not exposing a lie! LOL

I exposed the inventing of "history".
PROVE me wrong . . .

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Whether YOU like it or not - Jesus left us with a Church - and a hierarchy (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 18:15-18, John 17:20-21, 1 Thess. 5:12 , 1 Tim. 5:17, 1 Cor. 12:28).

We know that. What we resist is what you say constitutes the church and who you say constitutes the hierarchy within the church.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Because we have a lot of unsaved people who don't have the Spirit in them in our midst. They are the ones that cause divisions:

"These are the ones who cause divisions, who are worldly and devoid of the Spirit." Jude 1:19​

And they will remain among us until the harvest (now that the Catholic and Protestant churches have stopped killing them, lol):

"The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will weed out of His kingdom every cause of sin and all who practice lawlessness." Matthew 13:41
​

Until then, those who can see can not be led astray by someone who can't see. See?

“Every plant that My heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by its roots. Disregard them! They are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” Matthew 15:13-14
​

This response is BEYOND silly.

Sooooo, you're telling me that ALL Protestants believe in the EXACT SAME doctrine - except for those "unsaved" ones who are causing all the division??

It was the FOUNDERS of each faction that determined the doctrines.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Sooooo, you're telling me that ALL Protestants believe in the EXACT SAME doctrine - except for those "unsaved" ones who are causing all the division??

Of the things that God has revealed, and which matter, yes.

Refute Judes's words, not mine. Have at it........

"These are the ones who cause divisions, who are worldly and devoid of the Spirit." Jude 1:19​

Explain to us why Jude is wrong, if you are so sure he is wrong.

 

[BreadOfLife]

We know that. What we resist is what you say constitutes the church and who you say constitutes the hierarchy within the church.

Ahhhh - so the Church was leaderless until the 16th century??
Is that what you're saying??

 

[BreadOfLife]

Of the things that God has revealed, and which matter, yes.

Sooooo - God doesn't care about the differences I laid out in post #237??

 

[BreadOfLife]

The one whom the Spirit of discernment reveals is right. That's who's right.

"You, however, have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth." 1 John 2:20

"...as for you, the anointing you received from Him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. ...just as His true and genuine anointing teaches you about all things..." 1 John 2:27​

In other words - YOU don't have a CLUE.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

It was the FOUNDERS of each faction that determined the doctrines.

And it is the blind that follow these blind guides, not those who can see. A blind person can not lead a person who can see. Only a person who can't see. Read the verses I'm posting, please.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

In other words - YOU don't have a CLUE.

What is it about John's words that you do not believe?

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Sooooo - God doesn't care about the differences I laid out in post #237??

I don't know. I'd have to read your list again.

And just so you know, people don't like you because you are arrogant and you are very brash. Just talk to me. Check your out of control emotions at the door please and just talk to me calmly and rationally. You'll find I'm a very honest, level headed person.

 

[LTJMP14]

Ahhhh - so the Church was leaderless until the 16th century??
Is that what you're saying??

The ekklesia has been constant and unmitigating from the 1st century, namely: born again repentant believers and followers of Jesus Christ.

Tell me, since you act as tough you know more than the rest of us: What denomination was Jesus?

 

[BreadOfLife]

And it is the blind that follow these blind guides, not those who can see. A blind person can not lead a person who can see. Only a person who can't see. Read the verses I'm posting, please.

So, you're basically condemning EVERY person in EVERY Protestant denomination,
They are there because they believe the doctrines.

You can't have it BOTH ways . . .

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Ahhhh - so the Church was leaderless until the 16th century??
Is that what you're saying??

No, lol. There have always been those believers among us who possess one or more of the five-fold ministry offices. And in my humble opinion I'll go so far as to say most of them are not in official offices of professional ministry.

 

[BreadOfLife]

What is it about John's words that you do not believe?

It's not John I don't believe - it's YOU.
You're not making sense because in ONE breath you embrace Protestant factionism - and in the next breath you condemn it.

That's called, "Hypocrisy" . . .