The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

[MA2444]

Again, where did I say that His bride would be subjected to God's wrath? I didn't. I was referring to this passage:

1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

In no way, shape or form did I say that we will go through this "sudden destruction" that Paul referenced here. It's God's wrath. We are not appointed to it. We will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air just before this happens. I have said that multiple times. But, what I have also pointed out multiple times is that this is describing the final wrath of God that will be poured out on the entire earth (every inch of it)

Isnt this holding a pre-trib rapture viewpoint? If you believe what you wrote, then you're a pretribber. Just a post or two ago you said, oh no I;m not? So that don't compute. This post sounds like a pretrib view.

LOL. It's hard to believe that you are serious. Are you playing a game with me here for your own amusement? If so, I'm not interested in that. I guarantee that I said nothing to indicate that I believe in a pre-trib rapture. I have been arguing against a pretrib rapture the whole time. Please slow down and read what I'm saying more carefully because in no way, shape or form have I said that I believe in a pre-trib rapture. Not even close.

Here is your post which says you most certainly are not pretrib. So you got me confused here? What do you believe?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I remember what you said, you said the rapture isnt after the tribulation. so I thought you may be a misunderstood pretribber after all?

When did I say that? What did I say to make you think that? I'm pretty sure I never did since I don't believe that. I have pointed out many times (not to you directly, but overall) that I believe Matthew 24:29-31 (and Mark 13:24-27) refer to the rapture (gathering of the elect = rapture) and Jesus very specifically said it will happen "AFTER the tribulation of those days".

It was this morning that I seen that you made the comment something about there are two tribulations. And you lost me that. I never heard such a thing before.

Would you agree that you never hearing that before doesn't necessarily make it not true? I would hope so.

Before I explain again about how I see two tribulations referenced in the Olivet Discourse and why, let me just ask you something based on this scripture passage:

Matthew 24:1 Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.” 3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”

Obviously, Jesus told the disciples that the temple buildings they were looking at would be destroyed. If you think about what the temple meant to the Jews back then you can understand how shocking that must have been for them to hear Him say that. So, they naturally would want to ask Him more about it. And they did. That is what their first question was about. Do you agree? If so, where do you think He answered that question? I believe He answered it in Matthew 24:15-21.

Pretrib. Posttrib. Two Tribs? So now I know that somehow that I dont understand yet, you sure aint pretrib.

Many people see it as I do. You just haven't been exposed to this particular view until now.

I guess I could have missed it. This thread has has been going fast! If I did read it perhaps it was unclear to me. (That's what bringing no preconceived notions or biases bring with it. i.e., I wonder what he meant by that?) Because you seem to have a wayy different perspective than I do. I'm trying to understand what you're saying.

We definitely have way different perspectives. I still would like to know what exactly is your understanding of the tribulation, though. That isn't clear to me right now. It seems like you see it as only involving God's wrath, but I don't know what you think it entails, how long it lasts, etc.

Ok, let me rephrase it then. Fair enough? Daniel 9-10-11-12 is a prophecy given to Daniel from a Messenger of the Lord. Read those four short chapters and tell me if you think this prophecy is literal or allegorical?

Good enough?

It's obviously both. Why does it have to be one or the other? Parts of it are literal and parts are allegorical (figurative, symbolic, metaphorical, whatever word you want to use). But, I disagree that it's just one long prophecy from the beginning of Daniel 9 til the end of Daniel 12 as you apparently believe. There are multiple different prophecies within Daniel 9-12. For example, Daniel 9:24-27 is its own prophecy.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Isnt this holding a pre-trib rapture viewpoint? If you believe what you wrote, then you're a pretribber. Just a post or two ago you said, oh no I;m not? So that don't compute. This post sounds like a pretrib view.

If you define the trib as the final wrath of God that burns up the entire earth on the day Christ returns, which is what I believe the passage I reference entails (1 Thess 5:2-3 - see 2 Peter 3:10-12 for more detail) then I suppose you could call me a pretribber. But, is that your understanding of the trib, that it only involves the day Christ returns to burn up the entire earth? From other things you've said, I don't think so, so I can't make sense of what you're saying here.

Here is your post which says you most certainly are not pretrib. So you got me confused here? What do you believe?

LOL! I have told you what I believe mutliple times now. I can't help it if you don't understand what I'm telling you. I don't know how to word it any other way than what I already have. Other people don't have so much trouble understanding what I tell them (nevermind whether they agree or not), so I'm not sure what is causing you to not understand. If you have any specific questions instead of a very broad question like "What do you believe", please ask them.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

There are two raptures. And both are before the wrath of God. And many can't find one.

There is only one and that is obvious. Why would there be more than one? It makes no sense. I believe Jesus is efficient. He will have all of His people from all-time gathered to Him all at once.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Maybe we should really drop that like we keep threatening to? Lol. Look, me and him do not speak each others language. He seems obnoxious to me and I seem obnoxious to him. It happens sometimes even to people who are not too thin skinned, which he is imo. So we should let it go and not try to push a bad position. He is my brother in Christ, ok? I know we're on the same side and we are all in the body, right? So maybe he is a hand and I am a foot. Can a foot understand a hand? Is the foot wrong if he can't undertand the hand? No! But there different functions in the body. Personally, myself? I dont understand how hands work in the body, we're just different parts of the same body.
There. How diplomatic is that?!

You and I are not fully understanding each other, either, but you're still talking to me. Anyway, you do what you want. I'm not saying any more about this.

Because you seem to think that the rapture is post trib, so she would have to go through the Tribulation period. The Tribulation period is all about God's wrath and she was Not Apoointed to Wrath.

Here is where we differ which I guess neither of us have made clear before now. My understanding of the tribulation period is that it's a time of a high level of deception during which wickedness increases, many people are deceived and many fall away from the faith (see Matthew 24:10-12;23-26, 2 Thess 2:1-12). So, I don't see it as an ongoing time period of God's wrath. But, you do. So, there is a big difference between how we understand the tribulation. And this is why you have been confused up to this point. You have not realized that I don't have the same understanding of what the tribulation is as you do. So, it makes no sense for you to think of me as pre-trib or post-trib or whatever when I don't even have the same understanding of what the trib is as you do.

 

[The Light]

Because you seem to think that the rapture is post trib, so she would have to go through the Tribulation period. The Tribulation period is all about God's wrath and she was Not Apoointed to Wrath.

I'm going to have to disagree with you. The tribulation of those days is over before the wrath of God begins. That said, I think he still has the Church going through the wrath of God.

 

[The Light]

There is only one and that is obvious. Why would there be more than one? It makes no sense. I believe Jesus is efficient. He will have all of His people from all-time gathered to Him all at once.

Gentiles first and then the 12 tribes across the earth, the seed of the woman.

The feasts of God tell us there will be two raptures.

 

[MA2444]

Keeping in mind that I was referencing 2 Peter 3:10-12, what exactly is it that you're saying the Lord wouldn't do? I'm sorry, but you are sometimes hard to follow (I know you think the same of me...oh well). Please be more specific as to what exactly you are talking about here. How do you interpret this passage:

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Oh, I was saying that I know the Lord well enough to know that He wouldn't take his Fiance to a gang fight.

That sounds like a 2nd Coming scripture. Oh, I have it in my notes as a 2nd Coing scripture 2 Peter 3: 1-14. The only rapture scripture in my notes from Peter is in 1 Peter 1:7-13 I had come to the conclusion that the first line in your 2 Peter scripture isnt about the rapture because it says He says that day will come as a thief in the night. It is a similar expression but what it means is, the world wont be ready for Him or expecting Him so it will be unexpectedly, like a thief in the night comes. (unexpectedly to the unbelievers). Then it goes on to talk about that great and dreadful day of the Lord. I think it says, He will destoy them with the brightness of His coming? Sets down on the Mt of Olives and all wickedness and all are wicked people are put down. Then He sets up His Millenial kingdom for 1000 years. With Satan bound.

Okay, so you are familiar with the post-trib view. But, it seems like you don't know much at all about amillennialism, which is the doctrinal perspective that I'm speaking from. Is that correct? I'm post-trib as well, but my understanding of the trib is different than most post-trib premillennialists.

Yes I am, I was a posttribber for quite awhile. And you are correct, I dont know much about Amillenialism. I know some things. But since I a premillenialist I'm sorta a fundementalist also. It seems like most times that I proved my own doctrine wrong about whatever, it turned out that I wasnt taking the text literal enough. Weird huh? So I started believing that, God says what He means and means what He says.
Correct again that I have no clue if you are pre or post trib. You go both ways and that's weird to me. So you need to expound some will you?!

You do understand that most of us here believe we have a good handle on these things we talk about and, yet, we still disagree. So, it's not as if the closer you are to the Lord, the better you understand Bible prophecy. That isn't necessarily the case. I can find very mature Christians who pray often, help the poor and do all the things mature Christians should do but they completely disagree when it comes to Bible prophecy. People can claim that they don't bring bias and assumptions into it, but what else explains two people who otherwise agree on what the Bible teaches having such different beliefs when it comes to Bible prophecy?

No not quite. I can not bring biases and preconceptions into a discussion in order to understand a point of view better. But when the discussion is over and I can apply my own knowledge and expierences to make an inference it it either makes sense or it doesn't or what I thought before now dont make sense so I draw a conclusion about the correctness of the of the other viewpoint as put forth into consideration. So it doesnt mean that I brought my biases into the discussion.

As far as I understand it different beliefs in the same prophecy is dicated by a persons hermenutics, or how they study the bible. So some people believe more literally (Premils) and some people believe more allegorical (amils).

Either that, or the foot just dont understand the hand. ?? What is it? essentially it is just a widely different understand of prophect because of do they approach it premil or amil? Literal or allegorical. It has nothing to do with me thinking that I am closer to God than anyone else. I thought I made that clear? I am not high on the Mountain. I am ankle deep in the waters. That's all I am. I aint no Moses or Paul! I'm nobody.

But when I returned to the Lord in a serious way in 09 (2010 really) I have tried to make a consistent effore so that I may be found "approved" so I put my heart in it...and after awhile, the Lord said, You know what? Blessing blessing blessing. Revelation, presence, peace in my spirit. I accidently did enough for the Lord to lead me a full step into the water. (That's all!) and that made God become very real to me. I dont put myself above any man. It comes down to God rewards obedience, in this life and the next. And still...I am nobody! Who am I? They call me Nobody. Truth.

 

[marks]

It seems like most times that I proved my own doctrine wrong about whatever, it turned out that I wasnt taking the text literal enough.

Me too!

Much love!

 

[MA2444]

I have stories myself I could tell and many other Christians do as well, but I don't think this is the time and place for that. Takes enough time just to discuss the prophecies here, which is what this forum is for.

I was just saying that, I know the Lord enough to have learned that He does not make the church go through the great trib. He couldnt. He wouldnt. And I have all sorts of peace in my spirit about this. I did not have peace in my spirit when I was a postribber! That's how we tell if we are doing the right thing in any situation. Do I have peace in my spirit about my chosen response to take?

Scripture talks about having the peace of god within you and what it does for you. It even works through our conscience also. Either my conscience is screaming at me (lol) or it's telling me I did the right thing. It's kind of weird and spooky in a way but it's real.

I tend to agree, but at the same time this isn't something we can know for sure. Most Christians in your experience maybe, which is only a small fraction of all Christians.

You think so? Maybe. It does seem like a lot more people know a lot more scripture than they used to. Sometimes I'll make a refrence offhand about something scriptureal without giving the refrence, and people seem to know what I'm talking about. So clearly knowledge has increased. Good point.

I'm hungry. Dinner time.

 

[MA2444]

Me too!

Much love!

Really. That's awesome Brother.

 

[marks]

Really. That's awesome Brother.

I've learned to hang on every word, as they say!

Much love!

 

[MA2444]

The feasts of God tell us there will be two raptures.

You said this? I thought it was Spiritual Israel. No wait, he said two Tribulations.

If there is two Raptures, would Noah's ark be the first rapture? I have heard similar before and they only way I can swallow two raptures is if Noah's rescue of his family was one of them.

Enoch was raptured too. So was Elijah. Hows that for a wrench in the works? Lol.

I wonder how many raptures total there are in scripture?

 

[MA2444]

Here is where we differ which I guess neither of us have made clear before now. My understanding of the tribulation period is that it's a time of a high level of deception during which wickedness increases, many people are deceived and many fall away from the faith (see Matthew 24:10-12;23-26, 2 Thess 2:1-12). So, I don't see it as an ongoing time period of God's wrath. But, you do. So, there is a big difference between how we understand the tribulation. And this is why you have been confused up to this point. You have not realized that I don't have the same understanding of what the tribulation is as you do. So, it makes no sense for you to think of me as pre-trib or post-trib or whatever when I don't even have the same understanding of what the trib is as you do.

I wish you would read Daniel 9-10-11-12 and tell me if you think it is literal or an allegirical prophecy. You had said some prophecy is literal and some is not. So how do you see Daniel 9-10-11-12?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Oh, I was saying that I know the Lord well enough to know that He wouldn't take his Fiance to a gang fight.

Neither of us believe that God would allow His people to go through His wrath. You understand that, right? Let's get beyond that.

That sounds like a 2nd Coming scripture. Oh, I have it in my notes as a 2nd Coing scripture 2 Peter 3: 1-14.

Hmmm. You have it in your notes. Have you ever studied it for yourself like the Bereans (Acts 17:10-11) to see if what you were taught about it is true?

The only rapture scripture in my notes from Peter is in 1 Peter 1:7-13 I had come to the conclusion that the first line in your 2 Peter scripture isnt about the rapture because it says He says that day will come as a thief in the night. It is a similar expression but what it means is, the world wont be ready for Him or expecting Him so it will be unexpectedly, like a thief in the night comes. (unexpectedly to the unbelievers). Then it goes on to talk about that great and dreadful day of the Lord. I think it says, He will destoy them with the brightness of His coming? Sets down on the Mt of Olives and all wickedness and all are wicked people are put down. Then He sets up His Millenial kingdom for 1000 years. With Satan bound.

Why can't the rapture occur on the same day that Jesus destroys His enemies? Nothing you said here would keep that from happening. I asked for your interpretation of 2 Peter 3:10-12. How does that passage line up with your understanding of there being mortal humans on the earth for 1000 years after Jesus returns?

Yes I am, I was a posttribber for quite awhile. And you are correct, I dont know much about Amillenialism. I know some things.

I think it would be worth your while to find out more about it if for no other reason than it will allow you to have better discussions with people like me without all the confusion.

But since I a premillenialist I'm sorta a fundementalist also.

What does that mean?

It seems like most times that I proved my own doctrine wrong about whatever, it turned out that I wasnt taking the text literal enough. Weird huh?

Very weird because we all know that not all scripture is literal. Much of it is, but some is poetic, some is figurative or symbolic, some is spiritual, some is Apocalyptic and some is hyperbolic. And I might even be forgetting other types of non-literal text that are used in scripture.

So I started believing that, God says what He means and means what He says.

Whatever that even means. He doesn't always say things literally as Jesus's parables and books like Daniel and Revelation make clear.

Correct again that I have no clue if you are pre or post trib. You go both ways and that's weird to me. So you need to expound some will you?!

I explained this in another post, so won't do so again here. Our understanding of what the trib entails is not the same, so that explains your confusion. I explained the difference in our views in that other post that I assume you will see if you haven't already by the time you read this.

As far as I understand it different beliefs in the same prophecy is dicated by a persons hermenutics, or how they study the bible. So some people believe more literally (Premils) and some people believe more allegorical (amils).

This is where you and most other Premils are mistaken. Amils like myself base our doctrine primarily on literal scripture. For example, my belief that all of the dead from all-time (saved and lost) will be resurrected at generally the same time (at the same event when Jesus returns) is based on this passage:

John 5:28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned.

Jesus said a singular time (or hour - KJV) is coming when all of the dead will be resurrected. Premil contradicts this by saying that at least 2 times or hours are coming when the dead will be resurrected.

Another example is 2 Peter 3:10-12.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare. 11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.

My belief that Jesus will destroy all of His enemies when He returns is partly based on this passage. When you read the preceding verses it's clear that Peter was talking about the day of Jesus's second coming here and, taken literally, he indicated that the entire earth will be burned up when Jesus returns. That does not allow for any mortals to populate the earth for a thousand years as Premils believe.

I hope you get my point by now and don't need any more examples of what I'm saying. But, I can provide more if you want.

Either that, or the foot just dont understand the hand. ?? What is it? essentially it is just a widely different understand of prophect because of do they approach it premil or amil? Literal or allegorical.

It doesn't have to be all one way or another when it comes to literal or allegorical? Some prophecy is literal and some is allegorical. Most prophecies are a combination of both.

It has nothing to do with me thinking that I am closer to God than anyone else. I thought I made that clear? I am not high on the Mountain. I am ankle deep in the waters. That's all I am. I aint no Moses or Paul! I'm nobody.

But when I returned to the Lord in a serious way in 09 (2010 really) I have tried to make a consistent effore so that I may be found "approved" so I put my heart in it...and after awhile, the Lord said, You know what? Blessing blessing blessing. Revelation, presence, peace in my spirit. I accidently did enough for the Lord to lead me a full step into the water. (That's all!) and that made God become very real to me. I dont put myself above any man. It comes down to God rewards obedience, in this life and the next. And still...I am nobody! Who am I? They call me Nobody. Truth.

All of us are nobody compared to God. I'm glad you're humble enough to admit it. Many are not.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I wish you would read Daniel 9-10-11-12 and tell me if you think it is literal or an allegirical prophecy.

I have read those chapters many times. I did respond about Daniel 9-12 already in another post, but maybe you haven't seen it yet. I don't see that as one long prophecy as you apparently do.

You had said some prophecy is literal and some is not. So how do you see Daniel 9-10-11-12?

I believe the text is mostly literal in those chapters, but I, like most, don't see the 70 weeks as being literal weeks (as in 490 days), but rather as 490 years.

In the post you responded to with this question I pointed out how our understanding of the trib is different. Did you understand what I said about that? Can you see that is why you can't understand if I'm pre-trib or post-trib? I don't see the trib as being God's wrath like you do, so when you talk about "the trib" it's not even the same as what I'm talking about when I talk about "the trib".

 

[WPM]

Did I hurt your feelings again, sweetheart? I'm so soory about that. It will be ok, I promise.

You asked about the rapture and the wedding and Immenincy and so I posted it for you.

Your response was wah he offended me so he is wrong?

Let's just agree to disagree and leave me alone. I dont like talking to you. All we ever wind up talking about is your hurt feelings.

Whatever you want to believe, it's your choice. I disagree though.

Can you stick to the scriptural arguments instead of constantly defaulting to ad hominem? Please address:

Daniel 9

Pretribbers butcher Daniel 9. If Pretrib was in Daniel 9 you would have presented it before now. The fact is: it is not! The burden of proof is with you! You presented Daniel 9 as a proof text, when it is in fact nothing of the sort. It is not there, or in any of the texts that you referenced. That is why you cannot answer my questions. It is you that is inserting Pretrib where it does not exist!

This is a classic example of manipulating Scripture to fit your doctrine. Clearly, both the method and the doctrine are wrong, thus the conclusion is wrong. William E Cox says in his book Biblical Studies in Final Things: “the futurist arbitrarily places a gap between the sixty-nine and seventieth weeks of Daniels’ prophecy. He does this without one verse of Scripture or one iota of historical data to back up his argument.”

History shows that the 490 years were linear, congruent and sequential. Those of us that take 490 years to mean exactly that do not have to prove that it is harmonious; we just have to accept what it states. We take it literally (1) because it happened literally, (2) there is no command to decapitate it and project it into the unknown. Seven multiplied by seventy comes to 490 cohesive unitary years, not 2,500 broken up years and counting. The clincher is: there is no gap mentioned in the prophecy so there is no need or warrant to insert one in there.

Let’s use an illustration. If you were directed to go to the next state and told and told it was exactly a 490-mile journey (right down to the very yard). You were told that in-between the starting point and your destination you would pass two important landmarks, the first after 49 miles, which was accurate to the very yard. The next was a further 434 miles ahead (bringing your journey to 483 miles in total), which also occurred right down to the very yard. The journey's end would be a final 7 miles down the road from your second landmark, making your total journey 490 miles. Exactly half way between 483 miles and 490 (486 ½ miles) you would witness a monumental landmark that would surpass anything you have ever seen. How would you then feel if you were told when you hit the second landmark that your final location was still a possible 2,000+ miles down the road with NO exact finishing point? Such an idea would be totally unthinkable in the natural, but unprecedented in God's economy. God always fulfils His promises.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

You said this? I thought it was Spiritual Israel. No wait, he said two Tribulations.

If there is two Raptures, would Noah's ark be the first rapture? I have heard similar before and they only way I can swallow two raptures is if Noah's rescue of his family was one of them.

Enoch was raptured too. So was Elijah. Hows that for a wrench in the works? Lol.

I wonder how many raptures total there are in scripture?

In terms of a future rapture there is only one and it is described in 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 and referenced in a few other passages as well. The truth is not nearly as convoluted as some make it out to be. But, the person you're talking to, "The Light", believes in at least 5 future raptures, if I recall correctly.

 

[Timtofly]

You reveal that you don't mind telling a LIE just to get your way.

You keep saying the last day of this present world. How is that supposed to sound? Is it the end of the world, or not?

 

[The Light]

You said this? I thought it was Spiritual Israel. No wait, he said two Tribulations.

If there is two Raptures, would Noah's ark be the first rapture? I have heard similar before and they only way I can swallow two raptures is if Noah's rescue of his family was one of them.

Enoch was raptured too. So was Elijah. Hows that for a wrench in the works? Lol.

I wonder how many raptures total there are in scripture?

There are two raptures. The rapture of the Church will happen before the seals are opened. This is the grain harvest, barley and wheat. The Lord Himself comes for the Church. It will be at the trump of God or voice of God. Just as Noah was shut in the ark 6 days before the flood, the Church will likely be in heaven 6 years before the wrath of God

The second rapture is the rapture of the 12 tribes across the earth. That's why there is 144,000 first fruits. They are the first fruits of the second harvest. This is the fall fruit harvest and will happen on the feast of Trumpets at the Last Trump. Just as the destruction came the very day Lot left Sodom so destruction will come the very day of this rapture. The day is the Day of the Lord. Here is the second rapture. It happens immediately after the tribulation.

Rev 14
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

The righteous are taken to heaven and the unrighteous are cast into the 1 year wrath of God.

Don't you wonder why there is so much back and forth about when THE rapture will occur. The confusion comes from the fact there are two raptures.

The fig tree has two harvests. Jacob had two brides.