The Flesh Body is NOT "Glorified."

[ScottA]

The biblical term "Glorified Body" is greatly misunderstood. Many wrongly take that to mean the flesh is glorified. It's not.

As Paul said, it is not that body of flesh that is sown that is glorified, but rather that body dies and the new body is a new creation. That new body is literally born again, not of flesh or blood, or bone, or flesh and bone--but "of the spirit of God." Period.

1 Corinthians 15:37
And what you sow, you do not sow that body that shall be, but mere grain—
​

And if that is not clear enough, he also clearly states:

1 Corinthians 15:50
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption.
​

Though many believe in error to the contrary, we who follow Christ should know that we follow in this same way He did:

1 Peter 3:18
For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit.
​

It is also written in this way:

Ecclesiastes 12:7
Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it.

And the heavens and earth then, as it is written:

2 Peter 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.
​

All glory, rather, belongs to God...whom is spirit.

 

[Truth7t7]

The biblical term "Glorified Body" is greatly misunderstood. Many wrongly take that to mean the flesh is glorified. It's not.

As Paul said, it is not that body of flesh that is sown that is glorified, but rather that body dies and the new body is a new creation. That new body is literally born again, not of flesh or blood, or bone, or flesh and bone--but "of the spirit of God." Period.

1 Corinthians 15:37
And what you sow, you do not sow that body that shall be, but mere grain—
​

And if that is not clear enough, he also clearly states:

1 Corinthians 15:50
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption.
​

Though many believe in error to the contrary, we who follow Christ should know that we follow in this same way He did:

1 Peter 3:18
For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit.
​

It is also written in this way:

Ecclesiastes 12:7
Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it.

And the heavens and earth then, as it is written:

2 Peter 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.
​

All glory, rather, belongs to God...whom is spirit.

A future glorified spiritual body of flesh and bone, that could vanish out of human sight, that could enter a room with doors being shut, that could eat physical food upon this earth, just as Jesus maintained after the resurrection

1 Corinthians 15:20-21KJV
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

1 John 3:2KJV
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Luke 24:30-43KJV
30 And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them.
31 And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.
32 And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
33 And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them,
34 Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.
35 And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.
36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

 

[ScottA]

A future glorified spiritual body of flesh and bone, that could vanish out of human sight, that could enter a room with doors being shut, that could eat physical food upon this earth, just as Jesus maintained after the resurrection

1 Corinthians 15:20-21KJV
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

1 John 3:2KJV
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Luke 24:30-43KJV
30 And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them.
31 And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.
32 And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
33 And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them,
34 Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.
35 And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.
36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

You are confusing Jesus' physical resurrection with His ascension unto the Father whom is spirit.

If you can hear it...Jesus did both, but His physical resurrection was only for a time, a foreshadowing of the church age regarding who He gave His physical body to (until the end of the age):

Luke 22:19
And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.”
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At the end of the [church] age, we then follow Jesus giving up our physical (fleshly) bodies made of the dust of the earth which is to be dissolved, and ascend to the Father to be as One, just as they are One.

 

[Truth7t7]

You are confusing Jesus' physical resurrection with His ascension unto the Father whom is spirit.

If you can hear it...Jesus did both, but His physical resurrection was only for a time

Your confusing the fact that Jesus Christ maintained a tangible, immortal, glorified, spiritual body of flesh and bone after the resurrection, at no time did his body change at the ascension as you claim

Jesus Christ and his tangible body seen after the resurrection, is exactly what the believer will receive at the future second coming and last day resurrection, tangible, immortal, and eternal!

 

[jeffweeder]

Your confusing the fact that Jesus Christ maintained a tangible, immortal, glorified, spiritual body, of flesh and bone after the resurrection, at no time did his body change at the ascension as you claim

Jesus Christ and his tangible body seen after the resurrection, is exactly what the believer will receive at the future second coming and last day resurrection, tangible, immortal, and eternal!

Yes.
Rev 5
5 I saw in the right hand of Him who was seated on the throne a scroll written on the inside and on the back, closed and sealed with seven seals. 2 And I saw a strong angel announcing with a loud voice, “Who is worthy [having the authority and virtue] to open the scroll and to break its seals?” 3 And no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth [in Hades, the realm of the dead] was able to open the scroll or look into it. 4 And I began to weep greatly because no one was found worthy to open the scroll or look into it. 5 Then one of the [twenty-four] elders said to me, “Stop weeping! Look closely, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has overcome and conquered! He can open the scroll and [break] its seven seals.”

6 And there between the throne (with the four living creatures) and among the elders I saw a Lamb (Christ) standing, [bearing scars and wounds] as though it had been slain, with seven horns (complete power) and with seven eyes (complete knowledge), which are the seven Spirits of God who have been sent [on duty] into all the earth.

 

[ScottA]

Your confusing the fact that Jesus Christ maintained a tangible, immortal, glorified, spiritual body of flesh and bone after the resurrection, at no time did his body change at the ascension as you claim

Jesus Christ and his tangible body seen after the resurrection, is exactly what the believer will receive at the future second coming and last day resurrection, tangible, immortal, and eternal!

It would seem so...if you do not take all things into account:

John 3:8
The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
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Even so, yes, and He went through locked doors, ate fish, etc., and the angels of God came and ate with Abraham and Sarah, but that does not mean that the flesh is glorified...but rather that the Spirit is made manifest at the will of God. It is not that God is made perfect by the flesh, but that mankind is made perfect by the Spirit. Nonetheless, flesh does not enter the kingdom of God.

But the greater point here for our times, is that Christ laid down His body giving it over to death which continues throughout the church age. This is His return in the flesh (which began at Pentecost--"not by observation"), as the church is His body and we follow Him in resurrection and also in His ascension--that is, we also become One in the perfect spirit of God, just as they are One and were One before the foundation of the world--before the creation of flesh made of the dust of the earth. According to His prayer:

John 17
Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, 2 as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. 3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. 4 I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do. 5 And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

6 “I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. 7 Now they have known that all things which You have given Me are from You. 8 For I have given to them the words which You have given Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came forth from You; and they have believed that You sent Me.

9 “I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours. 10 And all Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine, and I am glorified in them. 11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are. 12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled. 13 But now I come to You, and these things I speak in the world, that they may have My joy fulfilled in themselves. 14 I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 15 I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth. 18 As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.

20 “I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; 21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. 22 And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: 23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

24 “Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world. 25 O righteous Father! The world has not known You, but I have known You; and these have known that You sent Me. 26 And I have declared to them Your name, and will declare it, that the love with which You loved Me may be in them, and I in them.”

 

[michaelvpardo]

The biblical term "Glorified Body" is greatly misunderstood. Many wrongly take that to mean the flesh is glorified. It's not.

As Paul said, it is not that body of flesh that is sown that is glorified, but rather that body dies and the new body is a new creation. That new body is literally born again, not of flesh or blood, or bone, or flesh and bone--but "of the spirit of God." Period.

1 Corinthians 15:37
And what you sow, you do not sow that body that shall be, but mere grain—
​

And if that is not clear enough, he also clearly states:

1 Corinthians 15:50
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption.
​

Though many believe in error to the contrary, we who follow Christ should know that we follow in this same way He did:

1 Peter 3:18
For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit.
​

It is also written in this way:

Ecclesiastes 12:7
Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it.

And the heavens and earth then, as it is written:

2 Peter 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.
​

All glory, rather, belongs to God...whom is spirit.

The biblical term "Glorified Body" is greatly misunderstood. Many wrongly take that to mean the flesh is glorified. It's not.

As Paul said, it is not that body of flesh that is sown that is glorified, but rather that body dies and the new body is a new creation. That new body is literally born again, not of flesh or blood, or bone, or flesh and bone--but "of the spirit of God." Period.

1 Corinthians 15:37
And what you sow, you do not sow that body that shall be, but mere grain—
​

And if that is not clear enough, he also clearly states:

1 Corinthians 15:50
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption.
​

Though many believe in error to the contrary, we who follow Christ should know that we follow in this same way He did:

1 Peter 3:18
For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit.
​

It is also written in this way:

Ecclesiastes 12:7
Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it.

And the heavens and earth then, as it is written:

2 Peter 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.
All glory, rather, belongs to God...whom is spirit.​

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"Behold, I am telling you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed"
1 Corinthians 15:51-52

Some would say a partial truth is a complete lie, but I'll assume your inclusion of verse 50 of 1 Corinthians 15 without the verses 51 and 52 isn't an attempt to spiritualize the resurrection and support a false doctrine denying that the new birth is a spiritual transformation, but a physical one after we die. The spiritual transformation that occurs when we receive Christ by faith is followed by the physical transformation that occurs at the 1st resurrection and Christ's return. Before Christ's incarnation, the spiritual reality followed the physical shadows on Earth ( the temple's sacrificial system.) After the resurrection, the spiritual reality precedes the physical shadow (the kingdom of God is already here within us, but we await its physical manifestation.)
Jesus Christ is, among other things, the center of history.
The Old Testament saints looked forward in time to His coming, the New Testament saints look back to His incarnation and wait for His return.
Of course, the carnal or unregenerate are always seeking a way to explain why they haven't experienced being born again as though this were man's choice rather than God's.

 

[ScottA]

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"Behold, I am telling you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed"
1 Corinthians 15:51-52

Some would say a partial truth is a complete lie, but I'll assume your inclusion of verse 50 of 1 Corinthians 15 without the verses 51 and 52 isn't an attempt to spiritualize the resurrection and support a false doctrine denying that the new birth is a spiritual transformation, but a physical one after we die. The spiritual transformation that occurs when we receive Christ by faith is followed by the physical transformation that occurs at the 1st resurrection and Christ's return. Before Christ's incarnation, the spiritual reality followed the physical shadows on Earth ( the temple's sacrificial system.) After the resurrection, the spiritual reality precedes the physical shadow (the kingdom of God is already here within us, but we await its physical manifestation.)
Jesus Christ is, among other things, the center of history.
The Old Testament saints looked forward in time to His coming, the New Testament saints look back to His incarnation and wait for His return.
Of course, the carnal or unregenerate are always seeking a way to explain why they haven't experienced being born again as though this were man's choice rather than God's.

I am not sure what it is you are trying to say.

It sounds like you are expecting that the flesh does in fact inherit the kingdom of God, and the creation was an act of God to evolve from spirit (which was already perfect) into us and Jesus and the Father all becoming One in a type of transformed hybrid flesh. And I will stop there so you can perhaps tell me it isn't so--that you agree with the scriptures that we actually become perfect just as our Father in heaven is [already] perfect.

 

[michaelvpardo]

I am not sure what it is you are trying to say.

It sounds like you are expecting that the flesh does in fact inherit the kingdom of God, and the creation was an act of God to evolve from spirit (which was already perfect) into us and Jesus and the Father all becoming One in a type of transformed hybrid flesh. And I will stop there so you can perhaps tell me it isn't so--that you agree with the scriptures that we actually become perfect just as our Father in heaven is [already] perfect.

It sounds like you have a serious reading comprehension problem and a carnal mind. I believe what scripture says, what Jesus and the Apostles taught.

 

[ScottA]

It sounds like you have a serious reading comprehension problem and a carnal mind. I believe what scripture says, what Jesus and the Apostles taught.

Your criticisms against the fact that "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing", are duly noted.

 

[michaelvpardo]

Your criticisms against the fact that "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing", are duly noted.

You really like those "straw man" arguments. You can argue all you want against what I've never said, but that's just the argument of fools.

 

[ScottA]

You really like those "straw man" arguments. You can argue all you want against what I've never said, but that's just the argument of fools.

Here is your error and the evidence that you speak against the Spirit, making accusations of "spiritualizing" as if the very essence of God is bad:

Some would say a partial truth is a complete lie, but I'll assume your inclusion of verse 50 of 1 Corinthians 15 without the verses 51 and 52 isn't an attempt to spiritualize the resurrection and support a false doctrine denying that the new birth is a spiritual transformation, but a physical one after we die.

On the contrary, to speak against the very essence of God (being spirit) as you do...is against God.

And for that reason you don't like me.​

Too bad!

 

[Behold]

[QUOTE="ScottA, post: 1398888, member: 3638"

As Paul said, it is not that body of flesh that is sown that is glorified, but rather that body dies and the new body is a new creation. That new body is literally born again,[/QUOTE]


Scott.

Its the born again SPIRIT, that is the "new creation"., not the Body.


The born again, will get a NEW BODY that is the ETERNAL MATCH for the Eternal Born Again Spirit.
See that?
This happens during the Rapture. "in the twinkling of an eye, we shall (the born again) ALL BE CHANGED".

= That is to get the NEW BODY

 

[ScottA]

[QUOTE="ScottA, post: 1398888, member: 3638"

As Paul said, it is not that body of flesh that is sown that is glorified, but rather that body dies and the new body is a new creation. That new body is literally born again,

Scott.

"the body is DEAD because of sin".
So, the body is not the "new creation".

Its the born again SPIRIT, that is the new creation., not the Body.
They are going to bury your body in a hole, Scott., because its "dead because of Sin"

If you are born again, and not just water baptized and nothing more, then you will get a NEW BODY that is the ETERNAL MATCH for the Eternal Born Again Spirit.
See that?
This happens during the Rapture. "in the twinkling of an eye, we shall (the born again) ALL BE CHANGED".

That is to get the NEW BODY[/QUOTE]
I wasn't saying otherwise, but rather that:

1 Corinthians 15:44b
There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.​

 

[Behold]

1 Corinthians 15:44b
There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.​

Well, you wrote that the new body is "born again".., but its not. Its the spirit that is born again.
Consider that Adam's body would have never died, had he not committed rebellion.
So, Adam's earthen shell was never going to die, and that is a type of immortality that matched his Spirit before he yielded himself to temptation and lost it all.
= Stupid Human behavior.

Jesus has a resurrected body, not a born again body.
Jesus didnt have to be born again because our sin was found on Him, but no sin was found IN HIM.
Sin is found IN US, and that is why we have to be forgiven of OUR sin.
Its ours.
Christ had none of His own.......but he died for OURS.. offering His blood and body for OUR sins... so that by this offering we can be FORGIVEN all our sin.

When the "dead in Christ Rise".......is not because they are being born again.. Its because they are born again and died, and will "rise" and "Meet the Lord in the Air" as Jesus Himself is "the Resurrection" who is IN THEM..... And the born again receive a new body that is the match made in Heaven regarding their born again spirit that exists 'in Christ".. "one with God".
The born again Believers, are a born again Spirit, and will receive a literal body that has no blood in it, and it will never die.

If you teach...>>"the born again get the Same TYPE of "new" Body that was found as Christ's, subsequent to his resurrection, then that wont offend the New Testament.

It is interesting to note that Christ walked through walls after He was resurrected, and He also flew off the planet while people watched Him ascend past the clouds, into the BLUE , and right out of VIEW.
YET.... His old body walked on water AND bled and died.

The bible always has some divine mystery in it that you can ponder and that is as far you'll go.

 

[ScottA]

Well, you wrote that the new body is "born again".., but its not. Its the spirit that is born again.
Consider that Adam's body would have never died, had he not committed rebellion.
So, Adam's earthen shell was never going to die, and that is a type of immortality that matched his Spirit before he yielded himself to temptation and lost it all.
= Stupid Human behavior.

Jesus has a resurrected body, not a born again body.
Jesus didnt have to be born again because our sin was found on Him, but no sin was found IN HIM.
Sin is found IN US, and that is why we have to be forgiven of OUR sin.
Its ours.
Christ had none of His own.......but he died for OURS.. offering His blood and body for OUR sins... so that by this offering we can be FORGIVEN all our sin.

When the "dead in Christ Rise".......is not because they are being born again.. Its because they are born again and died, and will "rise" and "Meet the Lord in the Air" as Jesus Himself is "the Resurrection" who is IN THEM..... And the born again receive a new body that is the match made in Heaven regarding their born again spirit that exists 'in Christ".. "one with God".
The born again Believers, are a born again Spirit, and will receive a literal body that has no blood in it, and it will never die.

If you teach...>>"the born again get the Same TYPE of "new" Body that was found as Christ's, subsequent to his resurrection, then that wont offend the New Testament.

It is interesting to note that Christ walked through walls after He was resurrected, and He also flew off the planet while people watched Him ascend past the clouds, into the BLUE , and right out of VIEW.
YET.... His old body walked on water AND bled and died.

The bible always has some divine mystery in it that you can ponder and that is as far you'll go.

The need to be born again is not from me, but from Jesus.

It is not that body born in the "image" of God, but that which is born of the "essence" of God.

 

[Behold]

The need to be born again is not from me, but from Jesus.

It is not that body born in the "image" of God, that what is born of the "essence" of God.

I have no idea why you wanted digress from Topic, and say anything about the need to be born again, as your Thread is not regarding the condition of a Lost person, who needs to be born again.
But its useful, as its good to tell people everywhere that Jesus said..." you MUST be born again", and that does not mean to be water baptized.

The Body, is not LIKE God, as God is "A" Spirit ......not a body.
Jesus who is God, has a body, but the pre-incarnate Christ had no body, as He existed with God as the "our".. in "Let us make man in OUR Image".

So, neither had a body when that verse was written, so, they are definitely talking about the image of themselves as "righteousness" and "Spirit".

Consider... when Adam was formed out of dirt....>He was not yet a MAN.
He was just dirt.
When God "breathed" into his nostrils the breath of life, the SPIRIT OF GOD...then Adam became a "living SOUL:< inside that earthen temple.

Notice also, if you are teaching the Doctrine of the Deity of Christ..

John 20:22 to a heretic who denies it....notice.... "Jesus BREATHED ON THEM".....on the Apostles, and said "receive you the HOLY SPIRIT".

See that?
That is God in Genesis doing the same to Adam.
Now now we have God manifested in the Flesh, JESUS The CHRIST...= doing the same to the Apostles.

Its GOD in both verses.

 

[ScottA]

I have no idea why you wanted digress from Topic, and say anything about the need to be born again, as your Thread is not regarding the condition of a Lost person, who needs to be born again.
But its useful, as its good to tell people everywhere that Jesus said..." you MUST be born again", and that does not mean to be water baptized.

The Body, is not LIKE God, as God is "A" Spirit ......not a body.
Jesus who is God, has a body, but the pre-incarnate Christ had no body, as He existed with God as the "our".. in "Let us make man in OUR Image".

So, neither had a body when that verse was written, so, they are definitely talking about the image of themselves as "righteousness" and "Spirit".

Consider... when Adam was formed out of dirt....>He was not yet a MAN.
He was just dirt.
When God "breathed" into his nostrils the breath of life, the SPIRIT OF GOD...then Adam became a "living SOUL:< inside that earthen temple.

Notice also, if you are teaching the Doctrine of the Deity of Christ..

John 20:22 to a heretic who denies it....notice.... "Jesus BREATHED ON THEM".....on the Apostles, and said "receive you the HOLY SPIRIT".

See that?
That is God in Genesis doing the same to Adam.
Now now we have God manifested in the Flesh, JESUS The CHRIST...= doing the same to the Apostles.

Its GOD in both verses.

I think we better drop it there...for you are off on a tangent of God not having a body, when it is written that "the Lord God walked in the garden in the cool of the day", the same God who created Heaven and Earth.

 

[quietthinker]

The Flesh Body is NOT "Glorified."
just ask Donald Trump!

 

[michaelvpardo]

Here is your error and the evidence that you speak against the Spirit, making accusations of "spiritualizing" as if the very essence of God is bad:

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On the contrary, to speak against the very essence of God (being spirit) as you do...is against God.

And for that reason you don't like me.​

Too bad!

I don't know you from Adam, and have no personal feelings about you at all. My opposition to the antichrist and spirit of error is God's choice. I was dedicated to His service from the womb by a Roman Catholic mother and born again through the gospel at the age of 39. My sole purpose for existence is to wage war against the Antichrist and you just happen to be in the wrong camp.