Biblically. The prophets and what they meant. God and what He means. Not common speech and what it means.
The first horseman of the Apocalypse
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Not some of both houses, but "all Israel". All of some of them?
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No. There are Jews who believe. The remnant of the house of Judah. There are Gentiles who believe, now included in the house of Israel. A remnant from among the nations.
I have no idea about common usage. But I know the Biblical usage. A word study will show this.
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I want you to know, I appreciate the back and forth. Sometimes it can be difficult to get a real handle on how someone else thinks about things, and this helps a lot!
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He means nothing more or less than a remnant of the house of Israel AND of the house of Judah are to be saved, because previously the majority of the members of the house of Israel had been broken off through their idolatry, but now the majority of the members of the house of Judah have been broken off through their unbelief.
It's still only a remnant but the house of Israel + the house of Judah = ALL Israel.
I've read over this several times. It doesn't make sense to me to maintain a distinction between "Judah" and "Israel", and then to erase that distinction in saying "All Israel".
There is Israel, and then there is Judah. So when I say "All Israel", I mean both?
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Hosea 1:10 KJV
10) Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.
Doesn't this agree with Jeremiah, that they are not cast off forever?
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I don't know the answer to that question but only have some vague ideas gleaned from scripture:
Matthew 19
28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That all of you which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, all of you also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
The resurrected saints reigning over whom?
When Jesus reveals to the unsaved Jews who He is, the unsaved Jews who see Jesus appearing in the clouds, will mourn for Him whom they (their forefathers) pierced. It will be too late for them to be resurrected with those who are Christ's at His coming, but not too late for Him to forgive them and have resurrected Jewish & Gentile (yes, and Gentile) saints reigning over non-resurrected Jewish (now saints, believers) in the millennium.
Says who? Not me, and I'm not saying the Bible says so, because I don't know what the Bible says. I'm speculating.
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So are you saying that God will not have mercy on the Jews the way He did on those of whom He previously had said, "You are not My people, and I will not be Your God"?
That prophecy is referring only to the house of Israel that was exiled in circa 725 BC - the ten tribes. It is not referring to the Jews. They were not broken off and exiled at that time. The divorce of the house of Judah only came after Christ had died and risen again.
The prophecy in Jeremiah is based on the @marks New Covenant promise God made to the house of Israel AND the house of Judah (Jeremiah 31:31).
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According to Ezekiel, King David will be raised to again be king over Israel.
Jesus, the King of Kings.
David, King of Israel.
12 Apostles, Judges over 12 tribes.
That's what I see in the prophecies.
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No, that's not what I'm saying. I was more looking at how the words are being used.
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While I still don't see it that way, even so, doesn't this support that Israel is not cast off forever? National, house of, Israel?
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All the promises made to Abraham were fulfilled in Jesus Christ, seed singular (Jesus) not seeds plural (National Israel) as you claim
Galatians 3:16KJV
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Revelation 19:16 KJV
And he (That would be Jesus) hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Jeremiah 30:7-9 KJV
7) Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
8) For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
9) But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
Matthew 19:28 KJV
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
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The last person saved and added to the church, will fulfill the saying "All Israel Shall Be Saved"
Israel The Church, Children Of The Promised Seed, The Twelve Tribes Scattered Abroad
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