Hebrews 13
THE FAITH OF CHRIST
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The blood of the everlasting covenant, is the sign of God's everlasting eternal covenant of eternal life with God through the death of His Son, for the people of God. Only they who believe have their sins forgiven them committed against the Father for His name's sake Christ the Son.
And He has sealed it with His promise, God cannot lie.
And He has sealed it with His promise, God cannot lie.
amigo de christo
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God cannot lie .
but the serpent surely can and surely will .
Once upon a time there lived a man and a woman within a garden .
Along came the serpent .
That ol devil still worketh a lie today .
HAS GOD really said YE must beleive in JESUS the CHRIST ..............
why yes HE did . And HE said if one belieives NOT they shall be damned .
NAY , nay says the serpent , surely ye shall not be damned for GOD is love .
OH GOD IS LOVE ALL RIGHT , that is WHY HE SENT THE SON so that all who do BELIEVE
would NOT perish but have everlasting life .
Scott the devil desires death for all . HE always has . ITS WHY he convinced eve to eat of that tree in the first place .
AND ITS WHY HE NOW Does all to STOP the preaching of the ONLY NAME whereby if one believes
THEY ARE SAVED . That ol serpent sure can make DEATH sound so loving and so kind
BUT reader and all beware . HE who loveth a lie loves death . Satan has no love for humanity
Never has , never will . BUT he sure can make himself seem so loving
and the GOD and HIS CHRIST in that bible seem so hating . HE IS A word twister my friend .
@Scott Downey
Sounds good but let me ask u, are their sins forgiven them prior to their believing, seeing Christ died for their sins prior to their believing.
Sounds good but let me ask u, are their sins forgiven them prior to their believing, seeing Christ died for their sins prior to their believing.
amigo de christo
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sorry friend but you are asking the wrong question .
The question we should all be asking is , ARE THEY FORGIVEN IF THEY BELIEVE NOT . and the answer is NO WAY .
lets not try and bring confusion my friend .
No one is born saved are they, we being justified [g]freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus...
And even your belief in Christ God has granted you to have, you were however not born believing. Although I do believe God saves infants and little children.
Romans 3
19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become [e]guilty before God. 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
God’s Righteousness Through Faith
21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all [f]and on all who believe. For there is no difference; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified [g]freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,25 whom God set forth as a [h]propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
Boasting Excluded
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is [i]justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law. 29 Or is He the God of the Jews only? Is He not also the God of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also, 30 since there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. 31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.John 6:29
Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
Signifying that believing is very important to salvation.
If you are one of His foreknown to Him elect, you cannot die in the body until you do believe, that is logically true, as everything works to the good of them that love God, who are the called according to His purpose.
Anyone dying unbelieving, die in their sins unforgiven.
John 8:24
Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”
Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
Signifying that believing is very important to salvation.
If you are one of His foreknown to Him elect, you cannot die in the body until you do believe, that is logically true, as everything works to the good of them that love God, who are the called according to His purpose.
Anyone dying unbelieving, die in their sins unforgiven.
John 8:24
Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”
amigo de christo
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and the jailor ran unto them and said Sirs what must i do to be SAVED .
and take notice paul nor silas said , OH NO WORRIES YE WERE BORN SAVED .
NO , refresh my memory , I BLEIEVES they said , BELEIVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST and ye shall be SAVED .
Thank you my friend also for these lovely reminders . Many have a problem with one word
when that word points to ONE NAME and reminds all of what they must do .
BELEIVE . many have a problem with the BELIEVING IN HIM PART . which is A seriously bad sign .
amigo de christo
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there it is again , that BELIEVE word . YOU would be shocked at how often and how many times
THAT WORD BELEIVE was used by CHRIST and the church in those letters .
But today when it comes to THE DIRE NEED TO BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST , that word is omitted
from manys vocabolary .
So allow me some parting words written in revelation concerningthe lake of fire
and unto whom shall have their part in it .
I see that word in there only its a bit longer . it says THE UNBELEIVING
those who LOVE and made A LIE , the abominable .
EVEN JESUS said to those who had not repented to beleive on HIM , WORSE shall it be for you than ever it was for sodom .
Many now beleive , but its a LIE they beleive and no lie can , and no lie will , save a man .
Gd foreknows His own elect, they will believe the message, and be saved. God the Father actually makes it sure as that is the work of God, that you believe in Christ whom He sent. The promise is sure to all the seed of Abraham, the children God gives to Christ.
amigo de christo
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From the beginning GOD has known all things .
And HE has and did determine on HOW to save the world .
For it pleased the FATHER that by preaching to save THOSE who .............
oh what is that word again , oh yeah , BELEIVE.
Doesnt it smell real fishy to this generation
that in the beginning of the gospel preaching they all went about preaching the dire need to BELEIVE on JESUS
and yet today they go about trying to make excuse for all who DO NOT BELEIVE . kinda fishy friend , a real STINK if ya ask me .
THEYS BEEN INFILTRATED scott , by a lie made to seem as though its love .
amigo de christo
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Damanation awaits all who preached anti christ lie and
rather than going about to remind all of the dire need to BELIEVE ON JESUS
they followed a lie they believed was love and loving.
SEEMS To me like the early church went about , NOT TRYING TO FIND COMMN GROUND
but doing all to preach the dire need to believe ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
today most evanglize a lie , giving out false hope rather than truth .
GOING about to try and convince even christendom its okay if one beleived not .
THAT DID NOT JESUS DO , THAT DID NOT the apostles do .
SEEMS to me like many had rather love a lie that damns , THAN THE TRUTH which saves .
Rather than trying to create a false image of God and a false version of love
TRY PREACHING THE ACTUAL TRUTH and LOVE OF GOD
whereby if a man BELIEVETH HE WILL be saved .
We can all affirm if you don't believe in the Son, the Christ, you will die in your sins and not be forgiven.
Acts 3:16
And His name, through faith in His name, has made this man strong, whom you see and know. Yes, the faith which comes through Him has given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.
In His name is preached the forgiveness of sins
Acts 13
26 “Men and brethren, sons of the [g]family of Abraham, and those among you who fear God, to you the [h]word of this salvation has been sent. 27 For those who dwell in Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they did not know Him, nor even the voices of the Prophets which are read every Sabbath, have fulfilled them in condemning Him. 28 And though they found no cause for death in Him, they asked Pilate that He should be put to death. 29 Now when they had fulfilled all that was written concerning Him, they took Him down from the tree and laid Him in a tomb. 30 But God raised Him from the dead. 31 He was seen for many days by those who came up with Him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are His witnesses to the people. 32 And we declare to you glad tidings—that promise which was made to the fathers. 33 God has fulfilled this for us their children, in that He has raised up Jesus. As it is also written in the second Psalm:
‘You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You.’
34 And that He raised Him from the dead, no more to return to [i]corruption, He has spoken thus:
‘I will give you the sure [j]mercies of David.’
35 Therefore He also says in another Psalm:
‘You will not allow Your Holy One to see corruption.’
36 “For David, after he had served [k]his own generation by the will of God, fell asleep, was buried with his fathers, and [l]saw corruption; 37 but He whom God raised up [m]saw no corruption.
38 Therefore let it be known to you, brethren, that through this Man is preached to you the forgiveness of sins; 39 and by Him everyone who believes is justified from all things from which you could not be justified by the law of Moses. 40 Beware therefore, lest what has been spoken in the prophets come upon you:
41 ‘Behold, you despisers,
Marvel and perish!
For I work a work in your days,
A work which you will by no means believe,
Though one were to declare it to you.’ ”
Acts 3:16
And His name, through faith in His name, has made this man strong, whom you see and know. Yes, the faith which comes through Him has given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.
In His name is preached the forgiveness of sins
Acts 13
26 “Men and brethren, sons of the [g]family of Abraham, and those among you who fear God, to you the [h]word of this salvation has been sent. 27 For those who dwell in Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they did not know Him, nor even the voices of the Prophets which are read every Sabbath, have fulfilled them in condemning Him. 28 And though they found no cause for death in Him, they asked Pilate that He should be put to death. 29 Now when they had fulfilled all that was written concerning Him, they took Him down from the tree and laid Him in a tomb. 30 But God raised Him from the dead. 31 He was seen for many days by those who came up with Him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are His witnesses to the people. 32 And we declare to you glad tidings—that promise which was made to the fathers. 33 God has fulfilled this for us their children, in that He has raised up Jesus. As it is also written in the second Psalm:
‘You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You.’
34 And that He raised Him from the dead, no more to return to [i]corruption, He has spoken thus:
‘I will give you the sure [j]mercies of David.’
35 Therefore He also says in another Psalm:
‘You will not allow Your Holy One to see corruption.’
36 “For David, after he had served [k]his own generation by the will of God, fell asleep, was buried with his fathers, and [l]saw corruption; 37 but He whom God raised up [m]saw no corruption.
38 Therefore let it be known to you, brethren, that through this Man is preached to you the forgiveness of sins; 39 and by Him everyone who believes is justified from all things from which you could not be justified by the law of Moses. 40 Beware therefore, lest what has been spoken in the prophets come upon you:
41 ‘Behold, you despisers,
Marvel and perish!
For I work a work in your days,
A work which you will by no means believe,
Though one were to declare it to you.’ ”
@Scott Downey
So did God forgive them for Christs Sake, His death putting away their sins, or for their believing sake which is something they did ?
You said in your earlier post this:
Which one is it ? Forgiven for Christs name sake or for their believing sake ?
So did God forgive them for Christs Sake, His death putting away their sins, or for their believing sake which is something they did ?
You said in your earlier post this:
Which one is it ? Forgiven for Christs name sake or for their believing sake ?
amigo de christo
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You see that is what the TRUE apostels preached . Todays smiley joes
seem to do all to offer up a kind and nice sounding lie to this generation .
But all who love and made a lie will perish , will have their lott in the lake of fire .
And satan knows that too , its why he pumps this broad path sin accepting , UNBELIEF IN CHRIST accepting LIE .
He wants souls DAMNED as HE IS .
amigo de christo
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this brightfame is doing all he can to plant confusion . He is twisting things . Heed not a word outta his lips .
amigo de christo
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It is written in acts
and EVEN JESUS had said it years before . I told you ye shall die in your sins , FOR IF YE BELIEVE NOT I AM HE
ye shall die in your sins .
Matthew 7, Jesus gives good advice. Verse 6 is very good. Peter also speaks about dogs and swine in his letter.
“Judge[a] not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what [b]judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3 And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
6 “Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
26 “But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: 27 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.”
28 And so it was, when Jesus had ended these sayings, that the people were astonished at His teaching, 29 for He taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.
“Judge[a] not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what [b]judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3 And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
6 “Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
Keep Asking, Seeking, Knocking
7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 9 Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent? 11 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him! 12 Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.The Narrow Way
13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 [c]Because narrow is the gate and [d]difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.You Will Know Them by Their Fruits
15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.I Never Knew You
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’Build on the Rock
24 “Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: 25 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.26 “But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: 27 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.”
28 And so it was, when Jesus had ended these sayings, that the people were astonished at His teaching, 29 for He taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.
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