The End times cannot be stopped but can we delay it so we can have time to preach the word so we can save more people ? What Ideas can we give ?

[grumix8]

I've have studied scripture for more than 20 years now and read and seen pastors explaining the end times and seen protestant end times explained by Witnesses of Jehova, Adventist, and Pentecostal. Also seen Catholic church end times explained can we delay the end times to save more people ? We cannot stop God's will I agree God ends this world their is too much violence and death ! But still their so many of gentiles and people who still don't know the word of God and are not saved. We are in an age were television and radio can get anywhere. And preaching the word can save millions of life and on this planet their are more than 2 billion christians and it could be good if we can get to 4 billion or 5 billion. Really would like that then the end can come. But reality the bible says we do not know the hour or time when Jesus arrives but we have signs from revelations and we know he is coming and closer of this world ends and Jesus arrival to save this world will be God's will.

But if we go right now to end times their will be 2 billion at most saved that is a good number but we do remember that Earth's population there are 8 billion people alive and that number ;-; 6 billion could be judged and will not enter the kingdom. It hurts me to see 6 billion cannot enter and people you know will not enter the kingdom. God is good that we have so many that are believers and perhaps it could be that 3 billion or 4 billion get saved the most we do not know. And some of you will say it's okay they decided their life it's their fault they cannot enter. It is not fair to say that when so many suffered and so many died so people can be saved by Jesus Christ.

We just say they made their decision but those christians that became christian thru hard times they went thru drugs had hard tiems and their family suffer and sacrifice everything for them know more love was giving to them and God gave more and some of them want more people because they know they have been tricked and the world fools ya. Some pastors out there want more christians because they know Jesus wanted all of them of them and he's blood covers all of them. He asked us to save all of them but because of our own ego's and fears we don't want to. Some women I know in my church wants all of them to be saved because she didn't went thru drugs but got thru divorce and family promblems and realized how much people suffer and people don't realize the sufferment ?

 

[grumix8]

How much sufferment did you pass to be a christian ? If you realized so much sufferment and people suffered so you be saved would you like it they be saved too and realize they could be saved too like you were saved ? I know the story of soldier who went to war came back to civilian life had to go thru the tests of life and he went alcholic and lost money and his job. He went to church and found his wife and had to fight 7 years and that's just some stories and you know many people who all had to go thru their tests and God gave them. He wanted people to be saved and dedicated to preach the word.

I know it is not easy and you want your family to be saved and friends. They will all say anything to avoid been baptized because they prefer the world and sin. They finally change until tragedy happens or something in their life helps find God. But they dont' want to find God becuase they don't need him. They are perfect without him and life is better if you don't have God telling about your errors in life. But what end times is coming and if it happens you will see a lot of them go and they will not be there in heaven ;-;. Some of us who are old 60's year old or 70's will say they decided their life and cannot save their family they wish they could before. We cannot go back and change things no more. Their are the 40's year olds or 30's olds who say that God will do the miracle and wait and don't do nothing. Then some of the younger generation say we can't do anything everyone decided their life we have to respect it and continue how the world is because it is order and it is tradition. Well people the youngs ones fall for that and don't realize their were many who had to go and hard tests. Break rules in life and go thru hard tests to do what Jesus wants to save his people. And this will bring many debates but what I want is to discuss ways to bring more christians put politics if you want and any theories you can come up with to save people to be in christ and delay the end times the most ?

What will be part of God's plan stretching time and creatings solutions to world promblems and obeying his plan to do God's plan with love, faith, and wisdom ? Got 4 and 5 plans creating social programs or building more churches. But what will you put to help economies, giving jobs, and giving more christians or stopping such events of end times like the rise of the antichrist ?

 

[grumix8]

1. Talk about the third temple if the third temple should not be built ? will you consider one fo the things that can extend the lifetime of the world ?

 

[grumix8]

2. Stop the mark of the beast ? make law that you cannot use mark ( chip or for some currency ) tell people the mark is on your hand and if people start tatooing or have the chip that they can remove it ?

 

[IronMaiden]

I've have studied scripture for more than 20 years now and read and seen pastors explaining the end times and seen protestant end times explained by Witnesses of Jehova, Adventist, and Pentecostal. Also seen Catholic church end times explained can we delay the end times to save more people ? We cannot stop God's will I agree God ends this world their is too much violence and death ! But still their so many of gentiles and people who still don't know the word of God and are not saved. We are in an age were television and radio can get anywhere. And preaching the word can save millions of life and on this planet their are more than 2 billion christians and it could be good if we can get to 4 billion or 5 billion. Really would like that then the end can come. But reality the bible says we do not know the hour or time when Jesus arrives but we have signs from revelations and we know he is coming and closer of this world ends and Jesus arrival to save this world will be God's will.

But if we go right now to end times their will be 2 billion at most saved that is a good number but we do remember that Earth's population there are 8 billion people alive and that number ;-; 6 billion could be judged and will not enter the kingdom. It hurts me to see 6 billion cannot enter and people you know will not enter the kingdom. God is good that we have so many that are believers and perhaps it could be that 3 billion or 4 billion get saved the most we do not know. And some of you will say it's okay they decided their life it's their fault they cannot enter. It is not fair to say that when so many suffered and so many died so people can be saved by Jesus Christ.

We just say they made their decision but those christians that became christian thru hard times they went thru drugs had hard tiems and their family suffer and sacrifice everything for them know more love was giving to them and God gave more and some of them want more people because they know they have been tricked and the world fools ya. Some pastors out there want more christians because they know Jesus wanted all of them of them and he's blood covers all of them. He asked us to save all of them but because of our own ego's and fears we don't want to. Some women I know in my church wants all of them to be saved because she didn't went thru drugs but got thru divorce and family promblems and realized how much people suffer and people don't realize the sufferment ?

Well, you know what? We don’t really need to worry about it because we have a Wonderful promise from the LORD:
Matthew 24:14 (NKJV) “And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

Perhaps God will use the two witnesses and us believers who are delivered up to spread the Gospel worldwide! …and we won’t even have to premeditate what to say because the Holy Spirit will be speaking through us:
Mark 13:11 (NKJV) “But when they arrest [you] and deliver you up, do not worry beforehand, or premeditate what you will speak. But whatever is given you in that hour, speak that; for it is not you who speak, but the Holy Spirit.

 

[grumix8]

Mathew 24 is one of the most important reason we have not seen the end times.

2 Peter 3:9 New International Version (NIV) The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

Thank God for his patience.

But there is more don't worry writting will have more plans for you all.

 

[Gottservant]

Can God not save souls before during and after the tribulation?

You have to remember that God will foreshorten the time.

By the same token, you have been instructed to pray that you escape and stand before the Son of Man - Luke 21:36

 

[tailgator]

The time of the end is an appointed time.It can not be changed by man.

Daniel 11:35​

And some of the wise will fall victim to persecution. In this way, they will be refined and cleansed and made pure until the time of the end, for the appointed time is still to come.​

 

[grumix8]

The end times is coming perhaps what we should do is give free money and give good life to people perhaps more of them will join christ. Perhaps if we do that they won't turn their life to God and instead eat and use all that money for food and booze and won't be thankful for what God gives. I Really want the end times to happen according to God's will but we have to consider so many that won't enter the kingdom of heaven he wants you to also save your family. The day is set by God but we still have time so many said the end times is coming and the bible says only God knows they day and hour.

 

[Gottservant]

Bear in mind, that you have the power in Christ, to lay down your life spiritually - you do not necessarily need to die in truth (Jesus promised that there were some that would not die).

This is important, because it means there are some who will pass through the tribulation unscathed.

 

[Pierac]

What make you think you can save people?

Net Eph 1:11 In Christ28 we too have been claimed as God's own possession,29 since we were predestined according to the one purpose of him who accomplishes all things according to the counsel of his will

29 tn Grk "we were appointed by lot." The notion of the verb κληρόω (klēroō) in the OT was to "appoint a portion by lot" (the more frequent cognate verb κληρονομέω [klēronomeō] meant "obtain a portion by lot"). In the passive, as here, the idea is that "we were appointed [as a portion] by lot" (BDAG 548 s.v. κληρόω 1). The words "God's own" have been supplied in the translation to clarify this sense of the verb. An alternative interpretation is that believers receive a portion as an inheritance: "In Christ we too have been appointed a portion of the inheritance." See H. W. Hoehner, Ephesians, 226-27, for discussion on this interpretive issue.

It gets better...

Pro 20:24 The steps of a person73 are ordained by74 the LORD — so how can anyone75 understand his own76 way?

73 tn Heb "the steps of a man"; but "man" is the noun גֶּבֶר (gever, in pause), indicating an important, powerful person. BDB 149-50 s.v. suggests it is used of men in their role of defending women and children; if that can be validated, then a translation of "man" would be appropriate here. But the line seems to have a wider, more general application. The "steps" represent (by implied comparison) the course of life (cf. NLT "the road we travel").

74 tn Heb "from the LORD"; NRSV "ordered by the Lord"; NIV "directed by the Lord."
sn To say that one's steps are ordained by the LORD means that one's course of actions, one's whole life, is divinely prepared and sovereignly superintended (e.g., Gen_50:26; Pro_3:6). Ironically, man is not actually in control of his own steps.

75 tn The verse uses an independent nominative absolute to point up the contrast between the mortal and the immortal: "and man, how can he understand his way?" The verb in the sentence would then be classified as a potential imperfect; and the whole question rhetorical. It is affirming that humans cannot understand very much at all about their lives.

NASB Joh 6:65 And He was saying, "For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father."

Oh My....
NASB Joh 17:2 even as You gave Him authority over all flesh, that to all whom You have given Him, He may give eternal life.

NASB Mar 4:11 And he said to them, "To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables, 12 so that indeed see but not perceive, and may indeed hear but not understand, lest they should turn and be forgiven."

Now you see....
NASB Act 13:48 When the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.


You have no say in the matter... Only the Father!

NASB 2 Th 2:13 But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth.


NASB Act 13:48 When the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.

Frist fruits!