The Doctrine of Purgatory in Catholic Biblical Perspective
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suppose using Bible scriptures you show these so called positions. mary has no position in heaven as per queen ,that is carnal yes she is in heaven your theology is carnal
ARTICLE 9
"I BELIEVE IN THE HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH"
Paragraph 6. Mary - Mother of Christ, Mother of the Church
963 Since the Virgin Mary's role in the mystery of Christ and the Spirit has been treated, it is fitting now to consider her place in the mystery of the Church. "The Virgin Mary . . . is acknowledged and honored as being truly the Mother of God and of the redeemer. . . . She is 'clearly the mother of the members of Christ' . . . since she has by her charity joined in bringing about the birth of believers in the Church, who are members of its head."502 "Mary, Mother of Christ, Mother of the Church."503
I. MARY'S MOTHERHOOD WITH REGARD TO THE CHURCH
Wholly united with her Son . . .
964 Mary's role in the Church is inseparable from her union with Christ and flows directly from it. "This union of the mother with the Son in the work of salvation is made manifest from the time of Christ's virginal conception up to his death";504 it is made manifest above all at the hour of his Passion:
Thus the Blessed Virgin advanced in her pilgrimage of faith, and faithfully persevered in her union with her Son unto the cross. There she stood, in keeping with the divine plan, enduring with her only begotten Son the intensity of his suffering, joining herself with his sacrifice in her mother's heart, and lovingly consenting to the immolation of this victim, born of her: to be given, by the same Christ Jesus dying on the cross, as a mother to his disciple, with these words: "Woman, behold your son."505
965 After her Son's Ascension, Mary "aided the beginnings of the Church by her prayers."506 In her association with the apostles and several women, "we also see Mary by her prayers imploring the gift of the Spirit, who had already overshadowed her in the Annunciation."507
. . . also in her Assumption
966 "Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things, so that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and conqueror of sin and death."508 The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin is a singular participation in her Son's Resurrection and an anticipation of the resurrection of other Christians:
In giving birth you kept your virginity; in your Dormition you did not leave the world, O Mother of God, but were joined to the source of Life. You conceived the living God and, by your prayers, will deliver our souls from death.509
. . . she is our Mother in the order of grace
967 By her complete adherence to the Father's will, to his Son's redemptive work, and to every prompting of the Holy Spirit, the Virgin Mary is the Church's model of faith and charity. Thus she is a "preeminent and . . . wholly unique member of the Church"; indeed, she is the "exemplary realization" (typus)510 of the Church.
968 Her role in relation to the Church and to all humanity goes still further. "In a wholly singular way she cooperated by her obedience, faith, hope, and burning charity in the Savior's work of restoring supernatural life to souls. For this reason she is a mother to us in the order of grace."511
969 "This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation . . . . Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix."512
970 "Mary's function as mother of men in no way obscures or diminishes this unique mediation of Christ, but rather shows its power. But the Blessed Virgin's salutary influence on men . . . flows forth from the superabundance of the merits of Christ, rests on his mediation, depends entirely on it, and draws all its power from it."513 "No creature could ever be counted along with the Incarnate Word and Redeemer; but just as the priesthood of Christ is shared in various ways both by his ministers and the faithful, and as the one goodness of God is radiated in different ways among his creatures, so also the unique mediation of the Redeemer does not exclude but rather gives rise to a manifold cooperation which is but a sharing in this one source."514
* II. DEVOTION TO THE BLESSED VIRGIN
971 "All generations will call me blessed": "The Church's devotion to the Blessed Virgin is intrinsic to Christian worship."515 The Church rightly honors "the Blessed Virgin with special devotion. From the most ancient times the Blessed Virgin has been honored with the title of 'Mother of God,' to whose protection the faithful fly in all their dangers and needs. . . . This very special devotion . . . differs essentially from the adoration which is given to the incarnate Word and equally to the Father and the Holy Spirit, and greatly fosters this adoration."516 The liturgical feasts dedicated to the Mother of God and Marian prayer, such as the rosary, an "epitome of the whole Gospel," express this devotion to the Virgin Mary.517
III. MARY - ESCHATOLOGICAL ICON OF THE CHURCH
972 After speaking of the Church, her origin, mission, and destiny, we can find no better way to conclude than by looking to Mary. In her we contemplate what the Church already is in her mystery on her own "pilgrimage of faith," and what she will be in the homeland at the end of her journey. There, "in the glory of the Most Holy and Undivided Trinity," "in the communion of all the saints,"518 the Church is awaited by the one she venerates as Mother of her Lord and as her own mother.
In the meantime the Mother of Jesus, in the glory which she possesses in body and soul in heaven, is the image and beginning of the Church as it is to be perfected in the world to come. Likewise she shines forth on earth until the day of the Lord shall come, a sign of certain hope and comfort to the pilgrim People of God.519
IN BRIEF
973 By pronouncing her "fiat" at the Annunciation and giving her consent to the Incarnation, Mary was already collaborating with the whole work her Son was to accomplish. She is mother wherever he is Savior and head of the Mystical Body.
974 The Most Blessed Virgin Mary, when the course of her earthly life was completed, was taken up body and soul into the glory of heaven, where she already shares in the glory of her Son's Resurrection, anticipating the resurrection of all members of his Body.
975 "We believe that the Holy Mother of God, the new Eve, Mother of the Church, continues in heaven to exercise her maternal role on behalf of the members of Christ" (Paul VI, CPG § 15).
where is scripture to back this up on MARY certainly no place in paul or peter or james or john does it give authority to marry . i will post john 14 in the next post
"I BELIEVE IN THE HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH"
Paragraph 6. Mary - Mother of Christ, Mother of the Church
963 Since the Virgin Mary's role in the mystery of Christ and the Spirit has been treated, it is fitting now to consider her place in the mystery of the Church. "The Virgin Mary . . . is acknowledged and honored as being truly the Mother of God and of the redeemer. . . . She is 'clearly the mother of the members of Christ' . . . since she has by her charity joined in bringing about the birth of believers in the Church, who are members of its head."502 "Mary, Mother of Christ, Mother of the Church."503
I. MARY'S MOTHERHOOD WITH REGARD TO THE CHURCH
Wholly united with her Son . . .
964 Mary's role in the Church is inseparable from her union with Christ and flows directly from it. "This union of the mother with the Son in the work of salvation is made manifest from the time of Christ's virginal conception up to his death";504 it is made manifest above all at the hour of his Passion:
Thus the Blessed Virgin advanced in her pilgrimage of faith, and faithfully persevered in her union with her Son unto the cross. There she stood, in keeping with the divine plan, enduring with her only begotten Son the intensity of his suffering, joining herself with his sacrifice in her mother's heart, and lovingly consenting to the immolation of this victim, born of her: to be given, by the same Christ Jesus dying on the cross, as a mother to his disciple, with these words: "Woman, behold your son."505
965 After her Son's Ascension, Mary "aided the beginnings of the Church by her prayers."506 In her association with the apostles and several women, "we also see Mary by her prayers imploring the gift of the Spirit, who had already overshadowed her in the Annunciation."507
. . . also in her Assumption
966 "Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things, so that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and conqueror of sin and death."508 The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin is a singular participation in her Son's Resurrection and an anticipation of the resurrection of other Christians:
In giving birth you kept your virginity; in your Dormition you did not leave the world, O Mother of God, but were joined to the source of Life. You conceived the living God and, by your prayers, will deliver our souls from death.509
. . . she is our Mother in the order of grace
967 By her complete adherence to the Father's will, to his Son's redemptive work, and to every prompting of the Holy Spirit, the Virgin Mary is the Church's model of faith and charity. Thus she is a "preeminent and . . . wholly unique member of the Church"; indeed, she is the "exemplary realization" (typus)510 of the Church.
968 Her role in relation to the Church and to all humanity goes still further. "In a wholly singular way she cooperated by her obedience, faith, hope, and burning charity in the Savior's work of restoring supernatural life to souls. For this reason she is a mother to us in the order of grace."511
969 "This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation . . . . Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix."512
970 "Mary's function as mother of men in no way obscures or diminishes this unique mediation of Christ, but rather shows its power. But the Blessed Virgin's salutary influence on men . . . flows forth from the superabundance of the merits of Christ, rests on his mediation, depends entirely on it, and draws all its power from it."513 "No creature could ever be counted along with the Incarnate Word and Redeemer; but just as the priesthood of Christ is shared in various ways both by his ministers and the faithful, and as the one goodness of God is radiated in different ways among his creatures, so also the unique mediation of the Redeemer does not exclude but rather gives rise to a manifold cooperation which is but a sharing in this one source."514
* II. DEVOTION TO THE BLESSED VIRGIN
971 "All generations will call me blessed": "The Church's devotion to the Blessed Virgin is intrinsic to Christian worship."515 The Church rightly honors "the Blessed Virgin with special devotion. From the most ancient times the Blessed Virgin has been honored with the title of 'Mother of God,' to whose protection the faithful fly in all their dangers and needs. . . . This very special devotion . . . differs essentially from the adoration which is given to the incarnate Word and equally to the Father and the Holy Spirit, and greatly fosters this adoration."516 The liturgical feasts dedicated to the Mother of God and Marian prayer, such as the rosary, an "epitome of the whole Gospel," express this devotion to the Virgin Mary.517
III. MARY - ESCHATOLOGICAL ICON OF THE CHURCH
972 After speaking of the Church, her origin, mission, and destiny, we can find no better way to conclude than by looking to Mary. In her we contemplate what the Church already is in her mystery on her own "pilgrimage of faith," and what she will be in the homeland at the end of her journey. There, "in the glory of the Most Holy and Undivided Trinity," "in the communion of all the saints,"518 the Church is awaited by the one she venerates as Mother of her Lord and as her own mother.
In the meantime the Mother of Jesus, in the glory which she possesses in body and soul in heaven, is the image and beginning of the Church as it is to be perfected in the world to come. Likewise she shines forth on earth until the day of the Lord shall come, a sign of certain hope and comfort to the pilgrim People of God.519
IN BRIEF
973 By pronouncing her "fiat" at the Annunciation and giving her consent to the Incarnation, Mary was already collaborating with the whole work her Son was to accomplish. She is mother wherever he is Savior and head of the Mystical Body.
974 The Most Blessed Virgin Mary, when the course of her earthly life was completed, was taken up body and soul into the glory of heaven, where she already shares in the glory of her Son's Resurrection, anticipating the resurrection of all members of his Body.
975 "We believe that the Holy Mother of God, the new Eve, Mother of the Church, continues in heaven to exercise her maternal role on behalf of the members of Christ" (Paul VI, CPG § 15).
where is scripture to back this up on MARY certainly no place in paul or peter or james or john does it give authority to marry . i will post john 14 in the next post
Oh Boya! I'm good. I fellowship with whom I can . I commune with Traditionalist, I attend Orthodox assembles. I even listen to what the concubines have to say. I have no problem with the concubines as long as they simply remain in praise of the Lord and do not say anything negative about the Mother of our Lord. I actually like attending Mass at the queens. I simply disagree with you and all your assembly snobbery . I like Ethiopian Mass, Greek Mass, Russian Orthodox Mass , the Coptic Mass etc.... None of them fall in line with your pope. Nor do I. As a matter of fact I do not fall in line completely with any of the assemblies. As long as I fall in line with the scriptures I am good. I study all the assemblies beliefs and traditions and not ALL ARE THE TRADITIONS WE HAD HANDED DOWN TO US FROM THE OLIVE TREE. Just as Talmudic traditions were practiced during Christ's time and He stood as an affront to those I stand as an affront to men's traditions not rooted in the faith.
Your Pope is NOT the head of every assembly and there is more than ONE queen. And their bishops and popes too have somethings wrong .They do not know everything. I respect men of faith who practice the greatest (LOVE)! I believe there are men appointed to shepherd and I do not go against the priesthood in the order of Melchizedek. That means obedience to the ORDER. I am NOT obligated to believe in ANY FALSEHOOD for honor of Church Magisterium this or that of any denomination. You will not pin me down to any one assembly but you will find I am in complete harmony with the Original Olive Tree and the traditions they have passed down, in the BIBLE. EVERY gentile ASSEMBLY IS BUILT because of that. They may not be in full accord with but never the less, all is because of the Original Tree. And actually the assembly of Rome is THIRD in succession .
Romans 1:15-17
Unashamed of the Gospel
15That is why I am so eager to preach the gospel also to you who are in Rome. 16I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, first to the Jew, then to the Greek. 17For the gospel reveals the righteousness of God that comes by faith from start to finish, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”…
FIRST TO THE JEW then to the GREEK but he is also eager to preach the gospel to those in Rome . That is not Jew or Greek. Third in succession. I will live by faith, not Magisterium decrees or in alignment to erroneous popes , bishops and priest etc....I uphold all the good of assemblies . If they too live according to the faith then they are my brothers. I respect their position but not above TRUTH!
"The Bible on St. Paul's list comes in third, not first. He actually gives here the traditional Catholic teaching on the three sources of sound teaching.
In verse 15 he goes into an excursus on the Bible. This brief excursus emphasizes the value of the Bible and recommends a fourfold method of exegesis. This verse was used in the pre-Reformation Church as a proof text for the Quadriga which was the standard Catholic approach to the Bible. Still taught today. The Quadriga method used the following four categories:
- Literal/Literary (teaching) - the text as it is written
- Analogical (reproof) - matters of faith
- Anagogical (correction) - matters of hope/prophecy
- Moral (training in righteousness) - matters of charity
John 14 King James Version (KJV)
14 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.
please note no mention of mary it shows the comforter/ the spirit of TRUTH SPECIAL emphasis has been made in verse 26 Mary was a very special lady chosen of GOD to bring the Christ seed in Blessed Holy Mother of God, the new Eve, Mother of the Churco much of this doctrine of mary is simply NOT in the Bible . so i am asking for scripture that says We believe that the she, continues in heaven to exercise her maternal role on behalf of the members of Chris. bible scriptures to back this up using the words mary continues in heaven to exercise her maternal role on behalf of the members of Chris. ( that is Christ job he left the Holy spirit )
14 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.
please note no mention of mary it shows the comforter/ the spirit of TRUTH SPECIAL emphasis has been made in verse 26 Mary was a very special lady chosen of GOD to bring the Christ seed in Blessed Holy Mother of God, the new Eve, Mother of the Churco much of this doctrine of mary is simply NOT in the Bible . so i am asking for scripture that says We believe that the she, continues in heaven to exercise her maternal role on behalf of the members of Chris. bible scriptures to back this up using the words mary continues in heaven to exercise her maternal role on behalf of the members of Chris. ( that is Christ job he left the Holy spirit )
She raised the Messiah can't get any greater authority then that. Therefore, she raised every good and faithful servant of God, PERIOD!
shazam did you get that on your own... i will ask you once again please post scripture to back this doctrine up. scripture from the Bible please thus saith the Lord
You can decide if it is carnal to believe Christ or not. He is the one who said they who overcome receive THRONES -AUTHORITY IN GOD ,SCEPTERS(Rod of Iron which is actually a nod to the Staff of Aaron which budded and makes us sharp in the matters of truth) RULE IN GOD, CROWNS- GLORY IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD. Keep saying she has not received all this and watch what your end is. If you want to call good evil and evil good that is your choice but the WOE will be upon you. It's not complicated to understand ,you're just Lawless. YOU , WHO HASN'T EVEN FINISHED YOUR RACE TO ITS END AND WON, have the NERVE to question those who DID! Yeah carry on! Maybe you are just one of those dumb puppets set up in forums to make the Catholics look really good. With all this stupidity in lawlessness you sure will get those with at least a little sense to run from you to her. Because you deny the WHOLE LAW and the PROPHETS! What's left ," there is no hell" like Jorge Bergoglio said and the sinners all simply just disappear? Don't you wish that would be your hopeful end with all your Lawlessness?
Matthew 7:21-23
A Tree and its Fruit
…21Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’…
Keep preaching in the devil's tongue.
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Oh give me a break I posted so much scripture peoples heads are spinning! Seems you didn't get the memo. Catch up! Class has been in session for a while. What, do you want people to do the work for you too? Shazam! Clearly , I get nothing on my own ,hence , why I do not sound ignorant nor willfully blind to the KNOWLEDGE of the Kingdom of heaven . You're the ONLY one talking a bunch of non-biblical SMACK!
hmmm i asked for scripture you gave me garbage
well if all catholics are like you then you need all the dumb puppets you can get to make you look Good. what i have seen you post is wood hay stubble things/that will burn up. if i get one more ignorant reply post . i will simply put you on ignore . i have asked you to back up your so called wind doctrine with scripture ,, you have failed Isiah 8:20 .... 20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. no scripture i see no no light .get you some real oil
Wood hay and straw where, please with scripture show me ? If you imply the SAINTS are dead that is a bunch of jezebel prophetess spirit SMACK! That spirit is rooted within the Protestant denomination and it murders the saints/ prophets before men as did jezebel . It is especially pervasive among those who call themselves "born again" IN WORD THAT IS!
No one dies in Christ jezebel. "I am the God Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" Are you saying they are DEAD? Are you saying God is NOT the God of the LIVING? Did not Christ come to set the captives free? Did he not , make the way that men be ajoined to God, in spirit? did not Paul say absent in body but present in Spirit. What Spirit is that? And how is one dead in the Spirit?
1Corinthians 5:3
3Although I am absent from you in body, I am present with you in spirit, and I have already pronounced judgment on the one who did this, just as if I were present. 4When you are gathered in the name of our Lord Jesus and I am with you in spirit, along with the power of the Lord Jesus,…
THAT MEANS AS ONE IN OBEDIENCE TO CHRIST, YOU ARE IN THE HOLY SPIRIT. Though he is now in HEAVEN, his authority in Christ is no less potent nor is he no less present over the church . All the apostles have this authority as does the Mother of the faithful. They are present with all believers. Not you , as I said ALL BELIEVERS. Their judgement is with you- as upon you though. You are not in the Holy Spirit.
Mark 12:27
27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!”
Question: What saints were raised at the Resurrection? They were baptized by water at the Crucifixion . Who were they and where did they go after? Back to their graves or were they taken up? Please enlighten me
. I already know the answer it is revealed in the scriptures alone . The Holy Spirit points it out for those who are in (Love) with the TRUTH not self glory!Ezra, putting ONE verse from Isaiah proves my point you are only Pretext. You lack full context.
1 Corinthians 3:11For no one can lay a foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, or straw, 13his workmanship will be evident, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will prove the quality of each man’s work.… your trying to build with combustible material.. your doctrine with mary is NOT BIBLE . you can not post one scripture backing up mary . if all catholics are like you no wonder they are like chickens running around with there heads cut off
if you can post scripture dont bother
duhh i am not denying the cov promise ..i deny your doctrine of Mary as queen ONCE AGAIN THERE IS NO WHERE IN SCRIPTURE that backs this up .. i asked for scripture with words mary as the queen ..you gaaaaaaaave none
The Catechism is a statement of doctrine not an apologetics text.
As Pope John Paul II says introducing the Catechism it is a statement of the Church's faith and of catholic doctrine, attested to or illuminated by Sacred Scripture, the Apostolic Tradition and the Church's Magisterium.
It references much scripture but also Magisterial documents. In the para 972 (for example), apart from 2 scriptural references, it references Lumen Gentium, one of the major texts from the Second Vatican Council. Chapter VIII is entitled "The Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother Of God In The Mystery Of Christ And The Church" That references more scripture.
Paras 973, 974, 975 are from "In Brief" which is a very brief (3/4) line summary of the previous 9 paragraphs. As such you would not expect to find any references., though sometimes they do if they are a quote from a Magisterial Document (as it does with 375).
Really? For the faithless no explanation will suffice. It is as simple as is Christ the King? That would be a YES!. Is she blessed among women? That means all women. Was Sarah a queen? Which is exactly why God changed her name from Sarahi Princess- to Sarah- Queen. That means Sarah would not be subject to anyone due to her union with Abraham the father of all nations . Whose seed would become greater than the stars of heaven. Since Mother Miryam (Mary) is blessed among women that means all SHE IS THE QUEEN of queens. She is as much a Queen as Christ is King of kings. Too bad you do not understand the OC if you did you would know what was going on in the new. And how all was a precursor to what would be concerning Christ the King and all who are of Him! The House of David is exalted to the Supreme position over mankind in Christ .Not only is She Blessed among women:
Luke 1:42
42In a loud voice she exclaimed, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb!
But Blessed above men as well.
Clearly Sarah was blessed, but clearly what Elisabeth is saying , after being filled with the Holy Spirit when the Ark of the New Covenant gave Greeting, is;
The chosen mother of her Lord is Blessed among women, that means all. Learn the meaning of words. Not only that she is even blessed above men.
Matthew 11:
Jesus Testifies about John
…10This is the one about whom it is written: ‘Behold, I will send My messenger ahead of You, who will prepare Your way before You.’ 11Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has risen no one greater than John the Baptist. Yet even the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
Truly means I PROMISE YOU. He is not saying the least born of men is greater than John the Baptist after just saying he is the greatest man born from natural conception of women. NO! He is saying that the least (WOMAN) is greater. For WOMAN- being the weaker vessel and in position concerning the pecking order not knowledge- is the least. Since Mary is a woman she is the least He speaks of. But since she is blessed among women she is above all women because she is CHRIST'S chosen mother and she is greater than even John the Baptist, who Christ says of-" IS THE GREATEST MAN BORN OF WOMEN". Yes she who is least is GREATER than the Greatest man born of natural conception. GET THE PICTURE?! That would make her second ONLY TO CHRIST HIMSELF in authority.
And Ezra, don't even try to pull this one out of your pocket:
Luke 11:26-28
True Blessedness
26Then it goes and brings seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and dwell there. And the final plight of that man is worse than the first.” 27As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and blessed are the breasts that nursed You.” 28But He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”…
He is not disrespecting His chosen mother here. The scriptures cannot call her blessed among women or as Least, she is above the greatest born of women, or "All generations shall call me Blessed" then say she is not. For He would not break His own Commandments. He is saying that She or anyone for that matter is Blessed if they HEAR the WORD OF GOD AND OBEY! And His chosen Mother is Blessed for just that. For she heard the MOST INCREDIBLE THING EVER TOLD A HUMAN from God and believed and OBEYED! So do not put the scriptures through your mince and dice factory . THE WORD OF THE LORD, THANKS BE TO GOD! And since you do not believe the WORD of the Lord and OBEY, you are NOT BLESSED.
Another false interp from your type:
Matthew 12:
46While Jesus was still speaking to the crowds, His mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to Him.d 47Someone told Him, “Look, Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to You.”e48But Jesus replied, “Who is My mother, and who are My brothers?” 49Pointing to His disciples, He said, “Here are My mother and My brothers. 50For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”
Why did they interrupt Him? It is clear that all held Mary and His brothers in high regard and thought them more important than themselves. So they wanted to bring Christ's attention to the fact they were outside waiting for Him. He replies : "49Pointing to His disciples, He said, “Here are My mother and My brothers. 50For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”
Did His chosen mother do the Father's will, did His brothers? CLEARLY THEY DID!He is telling the crowd aspire to your HIGHEST GOOD and you are to be like His mother and brothers and sisters. He in not saying His chosen Mother is NOT His mother or that His brothers are not His brothers, but rather all who do the will of His Father in heaven are too like his mother, and brothers and sisters. To be a brother is to be like Christ, to be a sister is to follow Christ, to be like His mother is to nurture the Faith in others.
Luke 11:26-28
True Blessedness
26Then it goes and brings seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and dwell there. And the final plight of that man is worse than the first.” 27As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and blessed are the breasts that nursed You.” 28But He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”…
He is not disrespecting His chosen mother here. The scriptures cannot call her blessed among women or as Least, she is above the greatest born of women, or "All generations shall call me Blessed" then say she is not. For He would not break His own Commandments. He is saying that She or anyone for that matter is Blessed if they HEAR the WORD OF GOD AND OBEY! And His chosen Mother is Blessed for just that. For she heard the MOST INCREDIBLE THING EVER TOLD A HUMAN from God and believed and OBEYED! So do not put the scriptures through your mince and dice factory . THE WORD OF THE LORD, THANKS BE TO GOD! And since you do not believe the WORD of the Lord and OBEY, you are NOT BLESSED.
Another false interp from your type:
Matthew 12:
46While Jesus was still speaking to the crowds, His mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to Him.d 47Someone told Him, “Look, Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to You.”e48But Jesus replied, “Who is My mother, and who are My brothers?” 49Pointing to His disciples, He said, “Here are My mother and My brothers. 50For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”
Why did they interrupt Him? It is clear that all held Mary and His brothers in high regard and thought them more important than themselves. So they wanted to bring Christ's attention to the fact they were outside waiting for Him. He replies : "49Pointing to His disciples, He said, “Here are My mother and My brothers. 50For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”
Did His chosen mother do the Father's will, did His brothers? CLEARLY THEY DID!He is telling the crowd aspire to your HIGHEST GOOD and you are to be like His mother and brothers and sisters. He in not saying His chosen Mother is NOT His mother or that His brothers are not His brothers, but rather all who do the will of His Father in heaven are too like his mother, and brothers and sisters. To be a brother is to be like Christ, to be a sister is to follow Christ, to be like His mother is to nurture the Faith in others.
And PJPII was also an Ecumenicalist. I am not talking about simply reaching out to all Christian denominations either . He believed all religions lead to God and hold Truth , THAT IS NON CHRISTIAN RELIGIONS. Just because he is/was popular does not mean- RIGHT!
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