The broad spectrum of Christianity VERSUS the narrow-minded view
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It does. The will of God, and the will of man are two different things. Sure God desires for all people to be saved, but they have to decide that... Do you believe God will force people to choose him? If that is the case, why don't people always look at God now today?
If Gods will overpowers human will,
then wouldn't everyone on earth be doing this?
Paul wrote to the Thessalonians;
The conclusion is that the choice of the human beings, either rejects or accepts Yahavah in their life, and looks to the death, burial, and resurrection, or does not from the heart.
then wouldn't everyone on earth be doing this?
Paul wrote to the Thessalonians;
The conclusion is that the choice of the human beings, either rejects or accepts Yahavah in their life, and looks to the death, burial, and resurrection, or does not from the heart.
amigo de christo
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Man destroyes himself . You all have much blood on your hands . You preach and give out a false hope .
The apostels preached the dire need to BELIEVE ON JESUS
and even warned those who rejected of the damnation to come upon them .
INTERFAITH is of anti christ and all who heed it and its lie will have their own blood and the blood of many upon their own heads .
GOD has chosen HOW to save the world . YOU DENY THAT and offer up false hope that wont save them but will damn them all .
TIME to preach the absolute dire need to BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
The hope you all and this pope offers unto this world and its lost religoins , Is naught but death unto death .
And all will be held accountable and answer to CHRIST ON HIS DAY for giving out this false hope ,
RATHER THAN PREACHIING THE ONLY HOPE and ONLY NAME WHEREBY one could be saved . THIS IS ON YOU .
Strange how you keep normalizing denominations....kind of a straw man, irrelevant to truth. I dont' see anywhere in scripture that Jesus came to save denominations. He saves souls. And He even said that He sends us out as sheep among wolves, so none of this is a surprise to Him, but is part of how we are tested and tried in the proving of our faith. Every individual soul is free to seek the Lord and His word and truth for themselves, but they need to grow out of infancy enough to be weaned from their mother churches in order to begin to seek and discern independently for themselves. And part of growing involves paying the price to grow....since Jesus said to we must count the cost to follow Him. We see in scripture that truth is a commodity we must "buy", as is that extra "oil" for our lamps.
Isa 28:9
Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
We get tested....how many are paying the price to be obedient? Aye, there's the rub. For this reason many don't even get out of the starting gate and remain infants their whole lives, continuing to keep their trust in their teachers/preachers and churches instead of learning to trust in and be taught by the Lord.....and thus they are easily blown about by every wind of doctrine that leads them astray and eventually into apostasy. (Cursed is everyone who trusts in man.) But that is a big part of why He has foretold that only a remnant will be saved. Following/obeying Him is a narrow way and a strait way (straight and narrow) and it's only on that narrow way of the cross of not my will but Thine be done (denying self) that one is kept safe, spiritually speaking.
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David in NJ
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This is the EXACT deception upon people today - they have created for themselves their own 'born-again' experience by using the Bible and scripture while DENYING the DIVINE Son of God who is the Source and CENTER of the Holy Scriptures
You have now joined those of us who hold to "every word that proceeds from the Mouth of God"
Therefore we are despised by many and even by our own brethren.
I just don't know what on earth some people think the gospel IS. Faith in Jesus the Christ, and obedience to Him....that is the gospel. That is what Jesus and the apostles went around preaching/teaching and laid down their lives for. Why do some folks think they are fine to just go around preaching/teaching what Jesus and the apostles did not preach/teach? They are just making up their own religion that is based on what seemeth right to them, snared by their own reasonings which conveniently panders to the flesh and sin instead of rescuing/saving folks FROM sin and flesh. Boggles the mind really.
amigo de christo
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GOD chose By the preaching of the gospel to SAVE those who BELEIVE .
Paul even after preaching CHRIST to them would even shake the dust off his feet with warnings
against those who failed to BELEIVE on JESUS the CHRIST .
AS even JESUS had warned himself and had them to warn . You all wanna play around with a lie
that wont save , THEN that is on your own head and you will be held accountable TO GOD , TO CHRIST .
Seeing i dont desire your death , I warn you and do so gravely
TO cease and cease asap from this other false hope you all are giving out .
If people REALLY LOVED GOD and really love the other
WHY love a lie that wont save and rather not LOVE THE TRUTH OF CHRIST who CAN SAVE .
START preaching HIS NAME with the reminder of the dire need to BELIEVE ONHIM
Remember , you were warned , I did so out of fear for your soul .
amigo de christo
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take a peek around david . LOOK at how the lie does grow . I been warning for years
against this false unity , finding common ground stuff
LOOK at what it has done . SO very many are now unequally yoked and are fallen and have fallen for the lie that simply WILL NOT
save them . Many now preach another gospel , ONE that DENIES the DIRE NEED TO HAVE BELEIVED JESUS TO BE the CHRIST
and the many are growing in number and in the delusion .
amigo de christo
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Now we see exactly WHY GOD said COME YE OUT from amongst them .
NOW we see why JOHN warned about not even bidding one godspeed who recieves NOT the gospel .
UNEQUALLY YOKED . finding common ground , DID THIS . judge not correct not , DID THIS
as the leaven was left to grow uncorrected
the peoples merged more and more together beleiving all was well and this leaven led them and now leads them
RIGHT TO THE LIE .
The gospel is being silenced through what THEY THINK IS LOVE and OF GOD .
THIS seeker friendly , all inclusive , co exist , breaking down barries , finding common ground
with this other version of love , WAS AND IS THEIR DOWNFALL .
THIS will GET WORSE sister . One even said perhaps i myself was a partaker of that which is of anti christ
JUST because i wont budge from the one gospel . THIS WILL ONLY get worse sister
and if men continue to be unequally yoked , THEY FALL .
We have got to get this people back into the bible to learn for themselves .
LOL
As I said previously. Denominations didn't appear until after the Protestant Reformation in the 16th-century.
So you claim the wolves are the church? Wow.
Haven't you read the Bible? - LOL
So, you are not just anti-denomination, you are anti-church. What church did Jesus come to build?
Matthew 16:18 NIV
And I tell you that you are Peter,[a] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades[b] will not overcome it.
Hebrews 10:24-25 NIV
And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds,
25 not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another—
and all the more as you see the Day approaching.
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amigo de christo
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a socially engineered gosple which came of men under guise it was love
HAS DONE THIS . they crept in all right . men like rick warren and scores of others
went to work CHANGING Evangelism , breaking down walls , building bridges
and making it all seem so loving and good . AND sadly most have loved to have it so .
WE were warned sister , that specially nigh the end of a massive falling away .
Well when we now have us a sin accepting jesus and a broad path maker who denies Even the words and warnings
OF CHRIST and of the apostels , WITHIN CHRISTENDOM , WELL it aint hard to see
WE IN A MASSIVE falling away . AND guess what they all believe , THIS IS how we shall attain PEACE N SAFETY .
Ever wonder why paul said FOR WHEN they shall say PEACE N SAFETY , THEN SUDDEN destruction .........
WELL its clear as to WHY , because the message , the so called love they preach
DENIES JESUS THE CHRIST and thus it shall ENTAIL the wrath of GOD and of the LAMB who it denied UPON THEM all .
amigo de christo
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When the jailer ran up to paul and silas , THANK GOD it was not todays socially engineered lovey do men
he had ran up too .
FOR when HE said SIRS what must i do to BE SAVED , they had said OH NO WORRIES we all end up saved .
PUAL and SILAS SAID THE RIGHT ANSWER . the YE MUST BELIEVE IN JESUS THE CHRIST answer .
THESE MEN wont preach that today as they more and more huddle as one under a lie of interfaith and its death
message they cloak as the word love .
RLT63
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The subject was fallen angels who joined Satan in the rebellion against God.
I don't believe that they can be saved.
Otherwise thank you for your kind Christian words
David in NJ
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@Dan Clarkston
Salvation is ONLY for the people on earth and is NEVER for the Angels who rebelled.
"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels"
David in NJ
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You're discussing denominations as if they are somehow legitimate and relevant.
Wolves are IN and among the church. As Paul correctly foretold would happen after he departed. And Jesus specifically said He was sending us out as sheep among wolves. Wolves are a picture of the flesh, which we all have flesh in this life, and the flesh is always hungry as a wolf, though Jesus and Paul were referring particularly to leadership in the church. The flesh is always hungry, hungry to lead, hungry for pre-eminence, hungry to prove themselves, hungry to have a ministry they can point to, always hungry for something if we are honest with ourselves and with God. I believe there is a mystery in why the word of God says all men are liars and that God is not a man that He should lie. Because nobody is perfect but Jesus. Everyone has some mistakes and error along the way, some more than others. That's why we need to be weaned from man and learn to rely on the Lord. I've come across so many Christians whose churches and minsters are their idols.
David in NJ
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DITTO
and @St. SteVen you know this to be true my Brother
Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. For it has been declared to me concerning you, my brethren, by those of C
es household, that there are contentions among you. Now I say this, that each of you says, “I am of Paul,” or “I am of Apollos,” or “I am of Cephas,” or “I am of Christ.” Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?
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