THE APOSTLES DID NOT ALL PREACH THE SAME GOSPEL

[Behold]

There is only one gospel newbies, and it isn’t Paul’s; it’s God’s.

Actually, there is one Gospel...."in the time of the Gentile"......and it was revealed to Paul.

This is why Paul says that this Gospel is "MY Gospel" 3x in the NT.

"The Gospel of the GRACE of God". or "the Preaching OF The Cross".

 

[Matthias]

Actually, there is one Gospel...."in the time of the Gentile"......and it was revealed to Paul.

This is why Paul says that this Gospel is "MY Gospel" 3x in the NT.

"The Gospel of the GRACE of God". or "the Preaching OF The Cross".

At all times, listen to Jesus preach the gospel.

 

[Behold]

At all times, listen to Jesus preach the gospel.

When Jesus was about to leave this earth, ascending back into Glory (3rd Heaven) He told the remaining apostles that He had many things to tell them, but they were not able to accept, comprehend, discern, them yet.

Later, from Heaven Jesus called Paul and sent Him as "the Apostle to the Gentiles", and personally gave Paul the revelation of the "Gospel of the Grace of God", and the other revelations.. that are "Paul's doctrine".

In Acts 15... Paul met all the Apostles and explained the "there are many things i have to say to you", revelations that Jesus didnt give them.
And these revelations, are what we are to understand as "Paul's Doctrine", which is THE = "doctrine for the Church".
And this is why Paul wrote most of the NT epistles., as its in Paul's doctrine that we find the fullness of the Revelations, that Jesus offers His "body." so that they can mature spiritually, by revelation knowledgge .......that you find within Paul's doctrine, as you study it, over time... with discipline.

A mistalke that 95% of Christians make, is that they try to "do Christianity"....... vs "receive the knowledge of God" that becomes their spiritual depth and perfecting of their discipleship.

 

[David in NJ]

THE APOSTLES DID NOT ALL PREACH THE SAME GOSPEL

Have you thought through the logical ramifications?


Jesus preached the Gospel of the Kingdom. Therefore, Paul is saying that Jesus is accursed.



Therefore, Paul is not speaking by the Spirit of God, and Galatians is uninspired and should be removed from the canon, QED.

Are you SURE you want to go there?

There are three types of logic:
a.) limited human logic based on what can be seen and understood
b.) religious logic which twists and turns in order to establish man-made doctrine

C.) TRUTH LOGIC, which comes down from Above and is found in God's WORD

@Doug has chosen to follow (b) = religious logic

 

[Matthias]

When Jesus was about to leave this earth, ascending back into Glory (3rd Heaven) He told the remaining apostles that He had many things to tell them, but they were not able to accept, comprehend, discern, them yet.

Later, from Heaven Jesus called Paul and sent Him as "the Apostle to the Gentiles", and personally gave Paul the revelation of the "Gospel of the Grace of God", and the other revelations.. that are "Paul's doctrine".

In Acts 15... Paul met all the Apostles and explained the "there are many things i have to say to you", revelations that Jesus didnt give them.
And these revelations, are what we are to understand as "Paul's Doctrine", which is THE = "doctrine for the Church".
And this is why Paul wrote most of the NT epistles., as its in Paul's doctrine that we find the fullness of the Revelations, that Jesus offers His "body." so that they can mature spiritually, by revelation knowledgge .......that you find within Paul's doctrine, as you study it, over time... with discipline.

A mistalke that 95% of Christians make, is that they try to "do Christianity"....... vs "receive the knowledge of God" that becomes their spiritual depth and perfecting of their discipleship.

There is no excuse for not listening to Jesus preach the gospel.

 

[Behold]

There is no excuse for not listening to Jesus preach the gospel.

When Jesus was on Earth, He was not able to Preach the Gospel..........because the Gospel is based on Jesus on The Cross.

So, when Jesus had His earthly ministry......>He was "sent to the house of Israel" only...
And because He had not died on The Cross, while He was performing His ministry for the JEW.....>He could not give them the same Gospel, that is the "Gospel of the Grace of God".......that He gave to Paul, AFTER He died on the Cross, and was back in Heaven.

See, Jesus could not "preach" the message of The Good news.......>"that Jesus has died for your sin"......to the Jews, as He had not died Yet.
So, He sent PAUL with this "Gospel message"., and its Paul's Gospel that real Christians "preach", and that is not "water baptism".

 

[Matthias]

When Jesus was on Earth, He was not able to Preach the Gospel.........

He did preach the gospel.

.because the Gospel is based on Jesus on The Cross.

So, when Jesus had His earthly ministry......>He was "sent to the house of Israel" only...
And because He had not died on The Cross, while He was performing His ministry for the JEW.....>He could not give them the same Gospel, that is the "Gospel of the Grace of God".......that He gave to Paul, AFTER He died on the Cross, and was back in Heaven.

See, Jesus could not "preach" the message of The Good news.......>"that Jesus has died for your sin"......to the Jews, as He had not died Yet.
So, He sent PAUL with this "Gospel message"., and its Paul's Gospel that real Christians "preach", and that is not "water baptism".

 

[Ritajanice]

Jesus taught the good news...he also explained to Nicodemas how we are Born Of The Spirit....so Yes....Jesus taught the good news, while on the earth....

Nicodemas couldn’t possibly have understood the Living Spiritual birth....as he was still in the flesh...

We aren’t able to be Born Again, not until the death and resurrection of Jesus....

 

[Behold]

He did preach the gospel.

The Gospel is the literal and exact explanation of The Cross of Christ , defined as the universal offer of forgiveness of Sin to everyone who hears the Gospel ..(( "The Preaching of the Cross""))) = and BELIEVES.

Jesus never shared this message while he was alive, nor with the Apostles...after He died and rose again.
He talked to them about water baptism and "make disciples out of the nations"..

But after He was back in Heaven, He called Paul.......and then came to Paul and gave Him the revelation of "the Gospel of the Grace of God" that Paul refers to as "MY Gospel" 3x in the NT, and explains that Jesus personally gave this Gospel to Him.

And Paul continues and states that if anyone preaches any other Gospel then HIS.......then you are this......: Galatians 1:8

Galatians 1:8

 

[Ritajanice]

@Matthias

Jesus came “preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God” (Mark 1:14) and said that “for this purpose I have been sent” (Luke 4:43). After He had trained His disciples, “He sent them to preach the kingdom of God” (Luke 9:2). He told all His followers to “seek first the kingdom of God” (Matthew 6:33).

 

[Matthias]

The Gospel is the explanation of The Cross of Christ.

Jesus never shared this message while he was alive, nor with the Apostles...

But after He was back in Heaven, He called Paul.......and then came to Paul and gave Him the revelation of "the Gospel of the Grace of God" that Paul refers to as "my Gospel" 3x in the NT, and explains that Jesus personally gave this Gospel to Paul.

“Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God”

(Mark 1:14)

Jesus did what you said he wasn’t able to do.

 

[Behold]

“Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God”

(Mark 1:14)

Jesus did what you said he wasn’t able to do.

The "gospel of God" is that the "Kingdom of God" has come to you.......= 'Your Messiah is on the Earth".
So, that is for JEWS only.

'Jesus came for/to HIS OWN (Jews) and they Believe Him NOT".

Understand?
= The Jews, would not accept that God's King, Their Messiah, had come to give them the KOG< as HE IS the KOG.... and they REJECTED IT ALL.

Notice that there is no CROSS in the "Gospel of God" that is given to the JEWS by Jewish Messiah Jesus The Christ?

Did you notice this yet?

So, Are you a Jew?
My home is in Israel, so, you can take it from me that the "Gospel of GOD" that Jesus shared with ONLY THE JEWS........is not what Paul teaches as "MY Gospel", that is the ONLY TRUE Gospel = you find in "the time of the Gentiles".........and you are in it.

 

[Matthias]

@Matthias

Jesus came “preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God” (Mark 1:14) and said that “for this purpose I have been sent” (Luke 4:43). After He had trained His disciples, “He sent them to preach the kingdom of God” (Luke 9:2). He told all His followers to “seek first the kingdom of God” (Matthew 6:33).

That’s what newbies should be taught.

”Jesus was not able to preach the gospel” isn’t true.

 

[Behold]

That’s what newbies should be taught.

”Jesus was not able to preach the gospel” isn’t true.

A "newbie" does not Understand that The Cross of Christ, is The Gospel.

You're that one.
No doubt, and not just You .

I could ask you to explain the "blood atonement" that is the "New Covenant" that is the "New Testament" and you'd have to run to WIKIPEDIA.. you've have to press "GOOGLE IT"...... to try to learn an answer, and then you still would not understand it on you way back to the forum to try to pretend you knew.

 

[Ritajanice]

That’s what newbies should be taught.

”Jesus was not able to preach the gospel” isn’t true.

Like I explained on my other post...Jesus came to preach the gospel...which is the good news...we can see that by reading what he spoke to Nicodemas...

Only we can’t become Born Of The Spirit....not until after the death and resurrection of Jesus.

It’s because of the cross..that we have that way to be reconciled back to God.....by becoming Born Again.by the power of His Living Spirit..

 

[Matthias]

The "gospel of God" is that the "Kingdom of God" has come to you.......= 'Your Messiah is on the Earth".
So, that is for JEWS only.

'Jesus came for/to HIS OWN (Jews) and they Believe Him NOT".

Understand?
= The Jews, would not accept that God's King, Their Messiah, had come to give them the KOG< as HE IS the KOG.... and they REJECTED IT ALL.

Notice that there is no CROSS in the "Gospel of God" that is given to the JEWS by Jewish Messiah Jesus The Christ?

Did you notice this yet?

So, Are you a Jew?
My home is in Israel, so, you can take it from me that the "Gospel of GOD" that Jesus shared with ONLY THE JEWS........is not what Paul teaches as "MY Gospel", that is the ONLY TRUE Gospel = you find in "the time of the Gentiles".........and you are in it.

Jesus and all of the apostles preached the gospel of God.

It makes no difference to me where you live and it should make no difference to newbies. No one should take it from you.

 

[Behold]

Like I explained on my other post...Jesus can to preach the gospel..

How can Jesus preach the Gospel, when the Gospel is that "Christ died on the Cross".. ??????????????

So, when Jesus is talking about being born again to Nikodemus......... no one was yet, as you can't be born again, until what is separating us from GOD, is dealt with... and what is that?

= OUR SIN.

So, until there is a CROSS and a Bloody Savior on it, and a Resurrection......you can't be forgiven, so you can't be born again, yet.

This shows us that Jesus talking to Jews about """His Kingdom"""" , is not related to HOW a sinner comes to God, based on What Christ has completed on THE CROSS, as their SALVATION.

 

[Behold]

Jesus and all of the apostles preached the gospel of God.

Yes, they preached the "Gospel of God". that deals with the "Kingdom come down to earth"........ and that is NOT related to The Cross where Jesus died for your sin, which is "The Gospel" that Christins are to share with SINNERS.

See it yet ??????????????????? @Matthias

 

[Ritajanice]

How can Jesus preach the Gospel, when the Gospel is that "Christ died on the Cross".. ??????????????

Jesus spoke the good news / Gospel to Nicodemas...you must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God?

So, when Jesus is talking about being born again to Nikodemus......... no one was yet, as you can't be born again, until what is separating us from GOD, is dealt with... and what is that?

No one can become Born Again, not until God chooses to give birth to our spirit...

Spirit gives birth to spirit..

= OUR SIN.

So, until there is a CROSS and a Bloody Savior on it, and a Resurrection......you can't be forgiven, so you can't be born again, yet.

God draws us to Jesus, God brings us to repentance, God brings us to initially believe in Jesus, then births us in the Spirit.

There is no faith in us...to walk and believe in Jesus...not until our spirit is reconciled back to God...then we can walk in Faith and we know Jesus in our hearts/ spirit.....that’s why we need the testimony of the Spirit..who testifies with our spirit that we are the children of God....spirit children....not worldly children any longer.

This shows us that Jesus talking to Jews about His Kingdom, is not related to HOW a sinner comes to God, based on What Christ has completed on THE CROSS.

God brings us to salvation “ His Way”....not man’s or woman’s way...that’s why our spirit must be Born Again by supernatural, divine ,heart revelation...

Your understanding of becoming Born Again..is different to how I understand it.

 

[Matthias]

Yes, they preached the "Gospel of God".

Of course they did.

that deals with the "Kingdom come down to earth"............that is NOT related to The Cross where Jesus died for your sin.

There’s your error.

See it yet @Matthias