Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

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Wynona

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It's up to each woman/mother to assess her family's needs and adjust appropriately, putting the needs of her husband and children first. And many women so exactly that.

Did your mother work due to financial need? Or did she just enjoy working more than being a mother?
I don't mind if you post but I believe its best I dont respond to you from now on.
 

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The Titus 2:5 "keepers at home" command is echoed here.

1 Timothy 5:14 KJV
I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.
 

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I don't mind if you post but I believe its best I dont respond to you from now on.
That's your choice. You don't seem to advocate for women and children who are in unsafe circumstance. I do. Have a nice day.
 

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The Titus 2:5 "keepers at home" command is echoed here.

1 Timothy 5:14 KJV
I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.
Yes, and that is to be taken in agreement with Proverbs 31.
 
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Perhaps you are quoting from the Feminist Bible 1st Commandment; you shall have no other gods before women's choices to make themselves happier?
Perhaps you adhere to the misogynist bible. You certainly devalue and hate women.


 
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The Proverbs 31 Woman was not a modern career woman.

A lot of people try to say this.

The girdles and linen she sold to the merchant were made at her home where she took a distaff and spindle to make the items by hand. There were no malls or clothing outlets so she had to make her households clothing.

She did not leave her home 40 hours a week or submit to a boss. She sold the excess from what she made for her household.
 

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The Proverbs 31 Woman was not a modern career woman.
No one in those days were "modern" anything, @Wynona. But she managed a whole crew of workers (servants) and she created things with her hands, sold them, and then went out and surveyed land and purchased it ...then planted a vineyard. She was most definitely a businesswoman. lol
She went out into the public with her fabrics and sold them. I don't care what you call it. She worked both inside and outside the home, and it was well pleasing to both her husband and to God.
 
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The girdles and linen she sold to the merchant were made at her home where she took a distaff and spindle to make the items by hand. There were no malls or clothing outlets so she had to make her households clothing.
Who's talking about malls? She very likely went into the town square wherever merchants somd their goods, and sold her goods. And as she had to search out a field, she had to actually leave her home to do so.

I have been telling you ...she worked both inside AND outside her home. There was no insinuation from me that she had a "9 to 5" job with a boss, workman's comp, and insurance, paid holidays ....or vacation. lol

Idk why you feel the need to pick my posts apart and paint me as your enemy. I'm not your enemy. I just do not believe that women shouldn't have rights, resources, options, and choices as you do.
 
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She sold the excess from what she made for her household.
Yep ...like I said ....and she did this work BOTH ....inside AND outside her home. She had to leave her home to sell her goods. Was she evil for doing so?
 
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The Proverbs 31 Woman was not a modern career woman.

A lot of people try to say this.

The girdles and linen she sold to the merchant were made at her home where she took a distaff and spindle to make the items by hand. There were no malls or clothing outlets so she had to make her households clothing.

She did not leave her home 40 hours a week or submit to a boss. She sold the excess from what she made for her household.
How in the world do you know how many hours a week she worked? And while it's true that there's no mention of her working for a 'boss', there's no mention or even hint that she sold the excess from what she made for her household.

Plus, as @TLHKAJ mentioned above, the woman had to leave the house to conduct the business of buying and selling. There's no suggestion that her kids were in tow when she conducted business. She had help by way of maidservants inside the home.

When your husband goes to work, does he NOT submit to a boss?
 
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Yes, and that is to be taken in agreement with Proverbs 31.
Exactly! 1 Tim 5:14 and Titus 2:5 are NOT 'stand alone' verses. And while those verses do say that a wife should be "keepers at home", neither of those verses say that she should be ONLY a 'keeper at home'. That's where Proverbs 31 comes into play.

Same with Ephesians 5:22. It works in conjunction with Ephesians 5:21 AND with 1 Corinthians 7:3-7:

"3The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife.

5Do not deprive each other, except by mutual consent and for a time, so you may devote yourselves to prayer."

Marriage is about mutual submission. There is no burden for the wife to do ALL, or even MOST of the submitting.
 
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And while it's true that there's no mention of her working for a 'boss', there's no mention or even hint that she sold the excess from what she made for her household.
True ...there is no direct mention of whether she spent the money on the household. But she bought a field and planted a vineyard with her own hands. And her husband's heart safely trusted in her. Her children rose up and called her blessed. So she most likely was a huge contributor to her family's provision. As a mother and as a wife, I wouldn't have any better motivation to work with my hands than to benefit the household. That's where my heart is as a wife, mother. ❤️
 
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May I have the link to where you found this?

I want to verify that the Rockefeller’s actually said this.
They didn't. There is no such animal as "Nick" or Nicolas Rockefeller who is related in any way to THE Rockefeller family.

 

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I can see this, as the Rockerfellers fund a lot of things, including wars.

Still, there is the Proverbs 31 example. She kept her home very well, and still worked. I agree that she would have produced her products at home. And yet, she went out and sold her products, and then surveyed fields and purchased a field with the money she profited from her sales. Idk the proximity of the field she bought to her home, but scripture says that she herself planted a vineyard with her own hands. Perhaps, she had her children with her when she planted a vineyard. I would, if it were me. Children learning to plant and grow things alongside mom and/or dad is a great teaching opportunity.
 

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They didn't. There is no such animal as "Nick" or Nicolas Rockefeller who is related in any way to THE Rockefeller family.

Sis, the elites did plan 9/11. My mother and I were shown this way back around 1981/1982. We both were under the MK Ultra projects and we were shown (by our programmers /handlers) this was the plan back when I was about age 9 or 10.

I began having recurring nightmares about that in January of 2001 ...of us being shown planes crashing into highrises, into buildings, into a field... fires, death, chaos. It wasn't a premonition. It was memories of what we were shown... I was a child in those nightmares. Somehow, as the year turned to 2001, my mind began to release those memories.
 
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