Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[TLHKAJ]

If you can point out that there are toxic men. Wrangler can point out that there are toxic women. We can't propose a double standard.

Personally, Id let it go.

He can do it without calling me and @Mink man-hating feminists. That is 100% out of line. I pointed out my own experiences. If his actions align with those toxic men, then he falls into that category.

 

[Wynona]

I am "Abby-Joy" ....I wrote a whole long post just now and deleted it. My aim is not to hurt you. I'll send it privately.

I understand this. My beliefs have changed over time.

 

[TLHKAJ]

what is wrong with Wrangler and others pointing out flaws in women?

He should not be attacking women on this forum who have been hurt by men.

 

[TLHKAJ]

I understand this. My beliefs have changed over time.

Your beliefs and your history with men....? I will message you.

 

[Wrangler]

You may not have experienced his attacks, but I have.

Nonsense. You take anyone who opposes the ideas you express as a personal attack AND you embrace victim mentality.

Point out the places where he has praised a woman on this forum ....specifically.

So odd that you suppose a thread triumphing over feminism demands praise for a woman. Still, there are many such posts.

My ex-wife was VERY feminine. Her feminine ways were very attractive to me.

God made us free to bring glory to him. Women help men do that. Thank God! I love my wife. She helps me in ways I wouldn't even think about. But she does.

I told my wife many times that I want her to do the easier tasks. Some hear an insult into ‘woman’s work’ but that’s what it means; the easier tasks. It does not mean the less important tasks.

Just last night this came up again. There are 2 plumbing problems and an electrical problem that need to be dealt with this weekend. I told my wife that it would help me, take a load off me, if she could do the grocery shopping while I do this home repair.

We could survive without the modern convenience of plumbing and electric in a room or two. We cannot survive without food.

Wisely, she did not fight me on this: "I am a woman. Hear me roar! Anything you can do, I can do better."

We’re a team.

Now, show me posts from you or @mink where you praise a man?!

 

[TLHKAJ]

Nonsense. You take anyone who opposes the ideas you express as a personal attack AND you embrace victim mentality.

This is a personal attack. You and a handful of other men on this forum have actually posted the "laughing" reaction when I stated my personal experience, as if it's funny for men to misuse and abuse women. Why do you do that?

 

[Wrangler]

He has never spoken a kind word to me..... ever.

Look in the mirror. You have a contentious spirit. Yet, you expect better than you give. Double standards.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Look in the mirror. You have a contentious spirit. Yet, you expect better than you give. Double standards.

Say something kind and compassionate when a woman on this forum says that they have experienced trauma at the hands of professing Christian men. Then, I may actually see you as separate from them. But if you verbally attack and think it's something to laugh at ....why would I put you in any other category?

 

[Wrangler]

This is a personal attack. You and a handful of other men on this forum have actually posted the "laughing" reaction when I stated my personal experience, as if it's funny for men to misuse and abuse women. Why do you do that?

No. It’s not a personal attack. Let’s stick to the OP. Remember my mantra?
Love women
Hate feminism

Regarding your personal experience or how other men replied to it, let me address them one at a time. Each person is responsible for their individual actions. I cannot explain or take responsibility for all men any more than you can for all women. For that matter, let’s go beyond our sex; we are only responsible for our individual actions, not the actions of anyone else - man or woman.

As far as your personal experience goes; that should be its own thread. I do recall you sharing some horrible experiences and it seems the trauma is very current for you. I am truly sorry that you went through that.

Having said that, If a man went through bad experiences with women in the past, is he justified in resenting and condemning all women? Or does this victim mentality only correctly apply in unequal ways?

 

[TLHKAJ]

Look in the mirror. You have a contentious spirit. Yet, you expect better than you give. Double standards.

You label me as contentious because I won't cater to you. I have posted scripture that flies in the face of your ideals and preferences of women. That is why you dislike me. And yet, I have posted even in this thread, examples from my personal life that align with scriptural womanhood. You didn't acknowledge it because you dislike me, and because I don't fold or cater to your male ego. You're not my husband, nor my God.

I have no need or desire, nor requirement from God, to please you.

 

[amadeus]

...My place is alongside (not below) my own husband, and as a mother, a grandmother, a sister, etc. But I am not below or less than a man ....not even within the church. ...

Without my wife I definitely would be incomplete. Where I be with God... without her? Would I even be serving Him?

Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the LORD." Prov 18:22

Mt 19:4	And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Mt 19:5	And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

52 years of marriage now. We tell everyone that we are heading toward 100. Will we make it? If we were to live so long.

 

[Wrangler]

You label me as contentious because I won't cater to you.

No. It’s not a label and has nothing to do with me. I’m sure I’m not the only one you interact with that is aware of your contentious spirit.

Like @Mink57, you present as entitled to be catered to. Notice how I put you and mink in the same category? Not women generally? This is because you 2 are the only 2 women on this forum who show up this way. That is, @Wynona is not the only female exception. It is you and Mink who are the contentious, feminist exceptions.

 

[TLHKAJ]

But you've just generalized 90 percent of men. You don't see how that is hypocritical?

Speaking of .....see my private message, sister. I didn't "generalize" ...I spoke the truth. If I hadn't experienced this, I wouldn't have stated it.

I think it would be best to allow this to settle and get back to your OP.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Without my wife I definitely would be incomplete. Where I be with God... without her? Would I even be serving Him?

Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the LORD." Prov 18:22

Mt 19:4	And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Mt 19:5	And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

52 years of marriage now. We tell everyone that we are heading toward 100. Will we make it? If we were to live so long.

Amazing testimonial, brother. She is blessed to have you as a husband. I guarantee that God has used you to enrich, teach, and strengthen her relationship with Him as well. That's how He works. :)

These testimonials are medicine to my heart .... literally. Blessings to you and your wife

 

[amadeus]

Amazing testimonial, brother. She is blessed to have you as a husband. I guarantee that God has used you to enrich, teach, and strengthen her relationship with Him as well. That's how He works. :)

These testimonials are medicine to my heart .... literally. Blessings to you and your wife

Thank you sister. We both get very tired easily these days, but we do still are able to enjoy some things. Today we took our daughter, her husband and their daughter and boyfriend out to a nice lunch. It was a very good time.

 

[Wynona]

Speaking of .....see my private message, sister. I didn't "generalize" ...I spoke the truth. If I hadn't experienced this, I wouldn't have stated it.

I think it would be best to allow this to settle and get back to your OP.

I haven't read the message to be honest.

You have brought a false accusation and needless drama to this thread, conflating Wrangler's posts against feminist women with abuses of men in general.

I have no desire to control anyone or pull rank but I personally dont respect the manipulation. The topic is feminism, not different members of the forum and their behaviour towards you.

I stand by what I said: feminism's results are horrible no matter what the intentions were.

 

[TLHKAJ]

I haven't read the message to be honest.

You have brought a false accusation and needless drama to this thread, conflating Wrangler's posts against feminist women with abuses of men in general.

I have no desire to control anyone or pull rank but I personally dont respect the manipulation. The topic is feminism, not different members of the forum and their behaviour towards you.

I stand by what I said: feminism's results are horrible no matter what the intentions were.

Now, you have straight up lied. I will post my message here if you wish rather than in private. Or, I can prove that you have lied in this thread with posts from other forums. I haven't brought drama. I spoke out against a man who only has negative things to say about women. You choose. I am trying to help you, whether you realize it or not. I've never spoken a thing that agrees with or promotes feminism. That is a false accusation, Wynona.

 

[TLHKAJ]

The topic is feminism, not different members of the forum and their behaviour towards you.

It honestly had nothing to do with you. I pointed out to Wrangler that his video posts were flawed and biased. And that was the truth. He then attacked me and inferred I am a man hater, a feminist, and portraying myself as a victim. Not even close. I always stand up for the truth, and for those being bullied and ill treated. It's not drama, it's taking a stand for truth.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Wynona, I'm not your enemy. I'm not Wrangler's enemy either. But I won't be talked down to by him. Not in this thread, nor in other threads. It's time to let this go.

 

[Wrangler]

He then attacked me and inferred I am a man hater, a feminist, and portraying myself as a victim.

Yea, you are not a man hater. You just hold that all men are bad AND provide no posts where you talk good about men. See post # 2505.

You are not a victim; I just always talk down to you whenever I disagree with your ideas.

But I won't be talked down to by him.

And you are not a feminist but attack anyone who does not implicitly support feminism.

No gratitude for me expressing sincere sorrow for your past trauma with men. No recognition between hating feminism but loving women. No recognition of the evil of feminism. Sad. I’ll pray for you.