Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[Wrangler]

Only into the first 10 seconds of this video, and already I'm like, "OMG..." She's supposed to put HER ego aside??? What about HIS ego????

It's so funny how self-centered feminists are - UNTIL responsibility enters the picture.

To answer your question, YES, she is supposed to put her EGO aside since she is not the leader. This is a fatal flaw of feminism and it was revealed in the MANY times I asked in feminism, how do decisions get made when there is disagreement? You have so far refused to answer this question. OMG, this vid answers that question.

 

[Wrangler]

The same can be said for Conservative ideologies as well.

No, it can't that the thing. For instance, the KKK endorsed Trump in 2016 but he disavowed said endorsement. The Left don't do this to their radical elements.

And there is a very good reason why Conservative ideologies do not get taken over by their radical elements. By definition, a Constitutionally limited republic is a political moderate. Words have meaning and ideas have consequences. One problem on the Left, is their deceptive identification of the political spectrum. On the far Left is 100% government. On the far right is anarchy or 0% government. Therefore, Leftism is inherently immoderate.

 

[Naomanos]

No, it can't that the thing. For instance, the KKK endorsed Trump in 2016 but he disavowed said endorsement. The Left don't do this to their radical elements.

And there is a very good reason why Conservative ideologies do not get taken over by their radical elements. By definition, a Constitutionally limited republic is a political moderate. Words have meaning and ideas have consequences. One problem on the Left, is their deceptive identification of the political spectrum. On the far Left is 100% government. On the far right is anarchy or 0% government. Therefore, Leftism is inherently immoderate.

We will have to agree to disagree on that.

 

[Wrangler]

We will have to agree to disagree on that.

I understand. This moderate position is being played out before our eyes with the recent lawfare against Trump. It is widely accepted that the Left has weaponized government against its political opponents. Trump has vowed to stop this.

To the Left, returning to a system of justice is felt by them as retaliation. The fear of this is palpable. I fully hope those who abused their power to be indicted themselves. This is justice. However, being moderate, Conservatives would NOT be in favor of persecuting our opponents. I sincerely believe Clinton and Biden are dirty. There is no evidence the Kamala is. So, for instance, I would not be in favor of her being prosecuted at this time.

Another subject has to be resolved. The re-emergence of slander. The press has called Trump Hitler, a threat to democracy, etc. These false statements are not criminal but should also not be protected by the 1A. Civil court is the arena such irresponsible statements against a person should be made. Contrast this with Trump having a judge impose a gag order just when he is criminally prosecuted by an out of control, abusive State. See the difference?

 

[Naomanos]

I understand. This moderate position is being played out before our eyes with the recent lawfare against Trump. It is widely accepted that the Left has weaponized government against its political opponents. Trump has vowed to stop this.

To the Left, returning to a system of justice is felt by them as retaliation. The fear of this is palpable. I fully hope those who abused their power to be indicted themselves. This is justice. However, being moderate, Conservatives would NOT be in favor of persecuting our opponents. I sincerely believe Clinton and Biden are dirty. There is no evidence the Kamala is. So, for instance, I would not be in favor of her being prosecuted at this time.

Another subject has to be resolved. The re-emergence of slander. The press has called Trump Hitler, a threat to democracy, etc. These false statements are not criminal but should also not be protected by the 1A. Civil court is the arena such irresponsible statements against a person should be made. Contrast this with Trump having a judge impose a gag order just when he is criminally prosecuted by an out of control, abusive State. See the difference?

We will have to agree to disagree on this as well. I honestly do not want to talk politics or about Trump or Biden.

My candidate lost, so I am moving on and hoping for the best.

 

[Mink57]

Sadly, the problem with Liberal ideologies is that they eventually get cannibalized by their radical elements. IF what you write were true the man-hating laws would not be in place, the divorces initiated by women would not the statistic and the many vids I posted would not be made.

Yes, but ANYONE can take an ideology...or even an item...and use it to harm others! A kitchen knife can be used to either cut meat or to kill someone. And ideology that may SEEM good in a way can also be misused to gain control over THEIR benefit.

The laws are not in place because they're "man-hating". After all, MEN benefit from the same "no-fault" laws, and MEN were actually the ones who CREATED the no-fault laws!

You're so oblivious as to what laws are like TODAY, and you're going to OLD law....a dangerous thing. The law doesn't favor women. It favors WHO is the parent that MOSTLY takes care of the day-to-day needs of the child. Doesn't matter if male or female. Yes, men MOSTLY are still the breadwinners...but that also means that they're not around to care for the needs of the child on a day to day basis.

so maybe, what needs to happen...is that feminism steps in...and says, "Hey! Stop with the whole 1/4 salary going to child support!"

Then again, one MUST ask....how come the patriarchal MEN didn't protest??????

Consider by way of comparisonthe misleading statement that most Muslims are peaceful. While true, it is the radical element that is causing the problems.

YES!!! That's a great big DUH!! Which tells you that MOST Muslims ARE peaceful! And likewise, the whole "Feminists are EVIL" are in the same category as ALL Muslims..

So, rather than use all in the denominator, use total terrorist incidents. Same with feminism and the Demonrat party, at large, with the woke movement. In short, the feminists who love men have made themselves irrelevant by allowing the radicals to take over. See The War Against Men.

Radical feminism hasn't taken over. It's THERE, but even liberal feminists DON"T LIKE IT.

 

[Mink57]

Ha, Wrangler! Have noticed that you have NO PROBLEM taking on MY 'feminist' views.

And yet, you don't address Naomanos' views....which are more egalitarian...

Interesting.......

 

[Wrangler]

The laws are not in place because they're "man-hating".

Yes, the laws are man-hating. One example in Ohio is that if a domestic violence 911 call is made, an arrest MUST be made. Feminists tend to make the call AND we have a guilt by accusation system. Even when men are the victim of domestic violence - which happens about 50% of the time - there are many stories where the police STILL arrest the man.

Another example is sexual harassment. A many cannot know he is guilty until he is accused.

Another guilt by accusation law is paternity. Feminists are moving to make a paternity test illegal unless it is ordered by a judge.

The entire sexist ‘Believe Her’ movement is not yet law in he US but is certainly expanding on the evil guilt by accusation system.

Then there s the most man hating law of all, reproductive rights do not apply to men.

 

[Mink57]

Yes, the laws are man-hating.

Oh, stoooop. You act as if the PREVIOUS laws weren't women-hating AND...that MANY men STILL feel that those laws should be appropriate.. Such as, a MAN having FULL CONTROL over a woman's paycheck....

Sorry, but laws like THAT were WOMAN-HATING.

One example in Ohio is that if a domestic violence 911 call is made, an arrest MUST be made. Feminists tend to make the call AND we have a guilt by accusation system. Even when men are the victim of domestic violence - which happens about 50% of the time - there are many stories where the police STILL arrest the man.

So, you're taking ONE call from ONE state and equating it to ALL states? AND the FEDERAL government? Seriously, Wrangler...you're like some conspiracy theorist!!!

Do you REALLY thiink that feminists AS A WHOLE don't know about abuse toward men? Seriously, why is up to WOMEN to bring this up? Why couldn't you MEN say something from the get-go? Why do WOMEN have to do this FOR you guys?

Another example is sexual harassment. A many cannot know he is guilty until he is accused.

Do you have ANY clue what sexual harassment is? THAT"S the problem. NOT that "men don't know until they're accused." Maybe men should LEARN what sexual harassment IS. And actually pay attention, instead of DISMISSING their attitude like it's "no big deal"".

Cat-calling? Harassment. Perusing a woman AFTER she said 'no'? Harassment...

what part of that do you NOT get?

Another guilt by accusation law is paternity. Feminists are moving to make a paternity test illegal unless it is ordered by a judge.

Like I've said before...not ALL feminists feel the same way....

The entire sexist ‘Believe Her’ movement is not yet law in he US but is certainly expanding on the evil guilt by accusation system.

THe whole reason for the "believe her" movement is because the men are USUALLY guilty.

 

[Mink57]

Still waiting for you to confrot Naomanos on HIS beliefs...

This should be interestinig...

 

[Naomanos]

Still waiting for you to confrot Naomanos on HIS beliefs...

This should be interestinig...

I think Wrangler and I have gone round and round already.

I won't change my beliefs. Why would I want to? I will not fix what isn't broken and this works for my relationship.

 

[Wrangler]

Am I making myself clear?

Yes. It is clear that you have no idea what feminism is for you cannot explain the arbitrary wall between "liberal" which you assert is good, with "radical" which you admit is bad - without explaining why it is bad.

I'll give you a hint. If you accept the premise, you accept the natural conclusion. Let's do a thought experiment on another evil ideology that might make it clear. Let's call one, liberal White Supremacy and the other radical White Supremacy. How about liberal slavery and radical slavery? I think you will find the exercise difficult because deep down, you realize there is no good form of these things. But in your heart, you hold onto something that is not true, that there is a good form of evil.

Feminism is inherently evil. No adjective is going to change that. Feminism is a hate-filled sexist ideology that you demonstrate with every post. Sure, the foot in the door is "liberal," we just want the right to vote. However, underlying that easier to market brand is "all men should die." The only reason it is not fully embraced by all feminists alike is the fatal flaw with all Leftist ideologies, the limits of reality. So, there will always be more practical evil feminists, who embrace arbitrary walls but are not purists, like the radicals. Like Margaret Thatcher said, "The problem with Socialism is, sooner or later, you run out of other people's money." Sooner or later "liberal" runs into "radical."

One thing your world view cannot conceive is the positive consequence to abandoning feminism. Here, indoctrination has its hold on you. All you can conceive to an alternative is oppression rather than the God-centered life @Wynona has written about very eloquently.

 

[Wrangler]

The answer would take a few books to explain. But SOME reasons are:

4. Men and women alike recognize feminism is evil.

 

[Wrangler]

And THATs part of the problem. It's resolved in HIS mind (as in, I gave her a good enough excuse for this stuff happening), but not HERS (as in, he reallllly didn't explain what was going on 3 months ago)

Wow! It goes to show your profound lack of humility. My father used to say that he thought arguments with my mother were over too. He'd say every now and then, he'd realize she'd bring up the same argument from 1968. As the vid explains, this is just a tactic to avoid accountability.

Oh, you think I did something wrong today? Well, what about what you did 3 months ago .... As if that was not already resolved. Pure unreasonableness.

 

[Wrangler]

Yes, but ANYONE can take an ideology...or even an item...and use it to harm others!

I call this the dangerous "can." It just means potential. Some go so far as to assert even possible. The patriarchy can harm others but opposing it is submitting to the Nirvana fallacy. No system is beyond the possibility of harming others.

Invoking such an absurd standard is the lengths you must go to defend the indefensible, which is feminism.

The patriarchy brought you civilization and all the good and services you benefit from in your current lifestyle. Lacking humility, this is not good enough for you. I wonder if you will allow your statement above to apply to feminism. Does feminism harm others? Or is harming others OK if its done in the name of progress, of feminism?

 

[Wrangler]

See dichotomy attached.

 

[Wrangler]

Powerful tweet

 

[Naomanos]

Powerful tweet

You do realize that there are men that aren't frightened off by these things, right? They are comfortable enough as men to see the person that she is and not what things she can do for him.

My fiance will cook, but I do the dishes. She doesn't clean and has told me that. I have no issues with it. At our age, we don't want any more kids. I still have my two little ones anyway that I am co-parenting.

What I am trying to say is that just because you agree with the tweet, it doesn't mean it is the reality for women who don't do or want per tweet is that they will never find a man.

Same for your other post with the tweet prior. Many successful career women are nothing like that tweet describes. They do live fulfilling lives and have husbands who love them and great children.

 

[Naomanos]

See dichotomy attached.

Also, why aren't the husbands helping in this post? Are they only to go to work and come home and sit in their easy chairs and watch the game?

I know that is not the type of man that I am. Maybe, just maybe, if the husbands helped with household chores, there would be more intimacy as well.

 

[Wrangler]

You do realize that there are men that aren't frightened off by these things, right?

It's not about men. Feminists are frightened off by these things.

Also, why aren't the husbands helping in this post?

Ever hear of division of labor? I told my wife from the beginning that I don't want her to do the hard work.