Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[Wynona]

This story of Adam and Eve is about Christ. Under the veil it can’t be seen.

Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
— Genesis 5:2

If you pay attention you see the curses placed on the two observed by Cain and Able.

Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
— Genesis 3:16

And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
— Genesis 4:6-7

Could there be something here that’s not being seen?

I don't know :)

 

[Waiting on him]

I don't know :)

Christ became subordinate to God, but did he stay in subordination?

 

[Wynona]

Christ became subordinate to God, but did he stay in subordination?

No. He did not grasp at equality with God, however. He trusted the Father and the Father Himself exalted Him in the proper time. Humility leads to honor. Service leads to rule. Do you think women will take on a different role in the New Heavens and the New Earth?

 

[Waiting on him]

No. He did not grasp at equality with God, however. He trusted the Father and the Father Himself exalted Him in the proper time. Humility leads to honor. Service leads to rule. Do you think women will take on a different role in the New Heavens and the New Earth?

I believe we are the new heavens and the new earth. The prayer is thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. What we experience beyond the veil should be manifested in this physical realm.

This is the source of conversation between my wife and myself. My desire for her is that she be manifest as the fullness of the stature of Christ. I’m not threatened by this at all it is the doctrine of Christ.

 

[Waiting on him]

No. He did not grasp at equality with God, however. He trusted the Father and the Father Himself exalted Him in the proper time. Humility leads to honor. Service leads to rule. Do you think women will take on a different role in the New Heavens and the New Earth?

Paul stated in the body of Christ there is no male or female. Only Christ is manifest.

 

[Wynona]

Paul stated in the body of Christ there is no male or female. Only Christ is manifest.

What Scripture do you mean?

 

[Waiting on him]

What Scripture do you mean?

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
— Galatians 3:28

There is no gender or ethnicity in Christ.

 

[Wrangler]

This is a fascinating video addressing the female nature to succumb to coveting from a very different angle, coveting attention from men.

In a merit based society, like the Patriarchy, men prefer beautiful women. In this vid, the narrator details various blue haired fats chicks who covet that attention and struggle with their failure to shame men into giving them as much attention and desire them the same way as they do the beautiful women.

The brilliance of this vid is how it goes beyond the politics of fake equality to the heart of human nature. IMO, the Bible mistranslated the Greek word and should have called it compassion, e.g., God had so much compassion for the world that he sent his only son. Compassion is and should be universal. Love on the other hand is truly highly qualified. People love virtue. Beauty is a virtue and males prefer such virtuous women. You pair that beauty with being genuinely nice (be agreeable and not argue on principle) and what you have is a high value woman. Such a woman will be sought after more than blue haired fats chicks who are hate filled and demand men cow-tow to their identity politics, including body positivity. Enjoy!

Look at the list of demand. 9 and 10 scream, "don't hold me accountable." Doesn't #5 work both ways? What is she even offering? No wonder she's single!

 

[Wynona]

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
— Galatians 3:28

There is no gender or ethnicity in Christ.

What do you take this to mean in terms of the way people should live? Should we ignore gender and ethnicity completely in our lives as an expression of faith?

 

[Waiting on him]

What do you take this to mean in terms of the way people should live? Should we ignore gender and ethnicity completely in our lives as an expression of faith?

I’m not certain what it is you are asking me?

 

[NotTheRock]

There is no gender or ethnicity in Christ.

Are women then transformed into men? Or are men and women both transformed into beings that are neither male or female?

 

[Wrangler]

This is a fascinating vid from a group of supposed red pilled men who recognize feminism for the evil it is, YET, they continue to hold to the religion that women are not responsible for anything. The narrator is flabbergasted. At one point in the clip, she lifts up her hands with her mouth open in shock at the mentality of these supposedly smart men. They been indoctrinated to suppose ANY criticism of choices women make is automatically misogynistic, they don't do it no matter what, denying that women are adult human beings with moral agency.

Can you imagine the script flipped? Can you imagine a bunch of raging feminists, who reject the movement away from traditional relationships and not holding men, the Patriarchy to blame for anything in our society? LOL

 

[Waiting on him]

Are women then transformed into men? Or are men and women both transformed into beings that are neither male or female?

It’s The mind that is transformed.
Have you read Philemon, Paul writes to Philemon a brother in Christ to make his servant who has stolen from him…… his equal? He tells Philemon to receive Onesimus as if he were Paul himself.



This is the doctrine of Christ!

(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
— 2 Corinthians 10:4-5

Most today read this and are inclined to believe that the enemy is someone outside of our own mind.

 

[Wrangler]

To summarize this entire thread, it is a tale of two posters. One who has not triumphed but remains captured by the trappings of feminism and one who has triumphed over feminism.

The captured one, still a slave to the philosophies of this world, aka feminism:

P1. Feminism is the best thing to ever happen to women and it even helped men who don't have huge egos. (LEADING WITH EGO & SELF AGGRANDIZEMENT.)​

P2. These men, the Patriarchs, have no redeeming qualities and can never be forgiven for not embracing feminism all along. (VICTIM MENTALITY & NEVER ENDING RESENTMENT, HATE & REFUSAL TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY)​

C. I take no responsibility and therefore have not triumphed over feminism.​

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The one who triumphed over feminism:

P1. If men and women are equal in any way, it is in our capacity for evil, our evil nature. (LEADING WITH CONFESSION OF RESPONSIBILITY)​

P2. No one, not even women, can escape their inherently evil nature and the consequences that come from that without Christ. (CHRIST IS THE BEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN TO WOMEN AND MEN).​

C. I have triumphed over feminism.​

 

[Wynona]

To summarize this entire thread, it is a tale of two posters. One who has not triumphed but remains captured by the trappings of feminism and one who has triumphed over feminism.

The captured one, still a slave to the philosophies of this world, aka feminism:

P1. Feminism is the best thing to ever happen to women and it even helped men who don't have huge egos. (LEADING WITH EGO & SELF AGGRANDIZEMENT.)​

P2. These men, the Patriarchs, have no redeeming qualities and can never be forgiven for not embracing feminism all along. (VICTIM MENTALITY & NEVER ENDING RESENTMENT, HATE & REFUSAL TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY)​

C. I take no responsibility and therefore have not triumphed over feminism.​

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The one who triumphed over feminism:

P1. If men and women are equal in any way, it is in our capacity for evil, our evil nature. (LEADING WITH CONFESSION OF RESPONSIBILITY)​

P2. No one, not even women, can escape their inherently evil nature and the consequences that come from that without Christ. (CHRIST IS THE BEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN TO WOMEN AND MEN).​

C. I have triumphed over feminism.​

I agree that we all desperately need Christ. We talk of fairness like it's a universal good to be sought at all costs. It's not. It's neutral. Christ is the treasure to be sought at any cost, not fairness.

 

[Wynona]

I’m not certain what it is you are asking me?

You said there is no gender or ethnicity in Christ because of the verse in Galatians 3.

Do you believe men and women or husband's and wives no longer have different things they should do or roles when they become Christian?

 

[Waiting on him]

You said there is no gender or ethnicity in Christ because of the verse in Galatians 3.

Do you believe men and women or husband's and wives no longer have different things they should do or roles when they become Christian?

If a husband has the mindset that he has himself a servant, then I would strongly recommend that he read the book of Philemon.

 

[Wynona]

If a husband has the mindset that he has himself a servant, then I would strongly recommend that he read the book of Philemon.

Interesting. I consider serving my husband a blessing now. I didn't use to. What about, companion and helpmeet?

 

[Wynona]

This philosopher believed feminism would do more harm than good and not lead to women being happier as well as promoting mediocrity.

II enjoyed this. It raises some great questions.

Do men and women have fundamentally different natures and sense of fulfillment?

Feminism says that gender differences are a social construct. As in, they're taught, not natural differences.

The Bible says women are commanded to function differently than men in the purpose of mankind (Genesis 2), marriage (Ephesians 5, Titus 2:3-5, 1 Peter 3:1-6 and others), the church (Titus, 1 Timothy), and in appearance (1 Corinthians 11).

Neiztsche argued that a focus on traditional male roles, competing with men, and a push away from the domestic sphere would make women unhappy and lead to them losing their unique strengths and identity.

I agree with him. This definitely was the case in my own life. Learning to embrace the biblical view of femininity led to fulfillment, purpose, strength of character, and with time: honor from my closest loved ones with my husband leading in that.

 

[Waiting on him]

Interesting. I consider serving my husband a blessing now. I didn't use to. What about, companion and helpmeet?

Interesting. I consider serving my husband a blessing now. I didn't use to. What about, companion and helpmeet?

If in your relationship your husband is your companion and helpmeet, then I would say that this is representative of Christ and the church.

I’m by no means judging, my wife and I have struggled with this for nearly 37 years.