Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[Mink57]

St. SteVen said:
Seems tragic in the long run.
A whole society moving away from committed relationships and child-bearing.
Not the natural state of things.

Celibacy was not the norm. (natural state of things) In Jesus day polygamy was the norm.
The qualification for an Elder was the husband of one wife.

Nope. Just because something is "common" doesn't make it "normal".

Actually, polyandry was VERY common in Jesus' day. Even prior to that.

Does the "husband of one wife" requirement mean that polygamy was common in the early church?

Why does the Apostle Paul require that church Elders be the "husband of one wife" if polygamy wasn't common in the church? Titus 1:5-6 ESV This is why I left you in Crete, so that you might put what remained into order, and appoint elders in every town as I directed you— 6 if anyone is...

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[St. SteVen]

Actually, polyandry was VERY common in Jesus' day. Even prior to that.

Do you mean among Jews? (or gentiles?)
Is there any biblical/historical evidence of this?

In Jesus' day women were considered property.
A woman would have to be pretty well-off to have multiple husbands.
Not sure they would actually be "husbands". ???

Did Jesus say that adultery is grounds for divorce? - Nope.

The position of the church and society at large is mistaken as to what Jesus was quoted as saying in the gospels. IMHO Let's discuss. Questions: 1) What did Jesus actually say? 2) Why did he say it? 3) If we got this wrong, where do we go from here? The position of the church and society...

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[Mink57]

Do you mean among Jews? (or gentiles?)
Is there any biblical/historical evidence of this?

Yeah, actually there is. Not so much for Jews, but perhaps Gentiles?

There was a king named Urukagina who ruled within the 24 century of a place in Mesopotamia. First, he seems to have abolished the former custom of polyandry in his country, on pain of the woman taking multiple husbands being stoned with rocks upon which her crime is written. The bible wasn't even written then.

The bible also prohibits things like incest. Ever wonder WHY?

Plus the Jews were obviously influenced by the Gentiles. You KNOW that to be true.

In Jesus' day women were considered property.
A woman would have to be pretty well-off to have multiple husbands.
Not sure they would actually be "husbands". ???

No she wouldn't. And yeah you're right. What DOES it take for a man to be a ''husband' and a woman to be a "wife"?

 

[St. SteVen]

There was a king named Urukagina who ruled within the 24 century of a place in Mesopotamia. First, he seems to have abolished the former custom of polyandry in his country, on pain of the woman taking multiple husbands being stoned with rocks upon which her crime is written. The bible wasn't even written then.

Before Noah's flood?
When "every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time"? - Genesis 6:5 NIV

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[Webers_Home]

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People today have never seen a normal woman, nor has anyone today ever
seen a normal man. That all came to an end with the forbidden fruit incident;
men and women ever since then have been aberrations of normalcy, i.e. deviant.
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[Wrangler]

These days it is becoming obvious to both men and women that they may be better off alone.
And they both have their reasons. (sigh)

It's good that you recognize this.

It's bad that you fail to trace those reasons to the evil ideology of feminism.

 

[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
These days it is becoming obvious to both men and women that they may be better off alone.
And they both have their reasons. (sigh)

It's good that you recognize this.

It's bad that you fail to trace those reasons to the evil ideology of feminism.

I see both good and bad aspects of feminism.
What is it about feminism that you are so militant about?

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[Wrangler]

I see both good and bad aspects of feminism.
What is it about feminism that you are so militant about?

It's self-evident. And made explicit in the previous 31 pages. All sin is alluring, right? Otherwise, it would have no hold on us.

Feminism is worse than communism and fascism combined. Yet, people like you continue to see good in this most evil ideology. How militant should a Christian be against evil ideologies?

 

[MA2444]

I happen to LOVE cooking so cooking has never been an issue for me.

That's always a plus. I've noticed over the years that even women who say they cant cook, can cook one dish that they like and cook it good.

 

[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
I see both good and bad aspects of feminism.
What is it about feminism that you are so militant about?

It's self-evident. And made explicit in the previous 31 pages. All sin is alluring, right? Otherwise, it would have no hold on us.

Feminism is worse than communism and fascism combined. Yet, people like you continue to see good in this most evil ideology. How militant should a Christian be against evil ideologies?

That's a bit of a nothing-burger for a response.
We need to discuss specifics.
It seems that you are making a bogeyman (bogey-woman?) out of feminism.
Is she hiding under your bed? Or lying next to you?



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[MA2444]

St. SteVen said:
I see both good and bad aspects of feminism.
What is it about feminism that you are so militant about?

That's a bit of a nothing-burger for a response.
We need to discuss specifics.
It seems that you are making a bogeyman (bogey-woman?) out of feminism.
Is she hiding under your bed? Or lying next to you?



[ Where is @Wynona ?

Is there anything of the world that you are against? It doesnt seem like it from all your posts. What of the world do you dislike and will not accept no matter what?

Do you think us men should be accepting of feminism? Are you? It sounds like you are. What did you do to be more acceting of the feminism creed? How should other men be to feminists and why?

 

[Wrangler]

That's a bit of a nothing-burger for a response.

Wrong. If you can’t deal with the fundamentals, then the conversation is over. Every post you seem to be a Luke warm defender of this evil ideology.

We need to discuss specifics.

You’re very late to the party. Try reading the 31 pages of specifics.

 

[Mink57]

Before Noah's flood?
When "every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time"? - Genesis 6:5 NIV

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Well...we know that the human heart is still capable of/demonstrative of evil, right?

When do you think that the Flood occurred?

 

[Wynona]

St. SteVen said:
I see both good and bad aspects of feminism.
What is it about feminism that you are so militant about?

That's a bit of a nothing-burger for a response.
We need to discuss specifics.
It seems that you are making a bogeyman (bogey-woman?) out of feminism.
Is she hiding under your bed? Or lying next to you?



[ Where is @Wynona ?

In appointment and moving out purgatory

 

[St. SteVen]

When do you think that the Flood occurred?

Prior to the first rainbow. Do you know why?

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[St. SteVen]

In appointment and moving out purgatory

Here's a soundtrack for escape.

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[Mink57]

Prior to the first rainbow. Do you know why?

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Sure. Genesis 9:8-17
"Then God said to Noah and his sons with him, 9“Behold, I now establish My covenant with you and your descendants after you, 10and with every living creature that was with you—the birds, the livestock, and every beast of the earth—every living thing that came out of the ark. 11And I establish My covenant with you: Never again will all life be cut off by the waters of a flood; never again will there be a flood to destroy the earth.”

12And God said, “This is the sign of the covenant I am making between Me and you and every living creature with you, a covenant for all generations to come: 13I have set My rainbow in the clouds, and it will be a sign of the covenant between Me and the earth.

14Whenever I form clouds over the earth and the rainbow appears in the clouds, 15I will remember My covenant between Me and you and every living creature of every kind. Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life. 16And whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of every kind that is on the earth.”

17So God said to Noah, “This is the sign of the covenant that I have established between Me and every creature on the earth.” Genesis 9:8-17


Ever read the Book of Enoch?

 

[St. SteVen]

Sure.

But why weren't there rainbows before that? (Genesis 2:5-6)

Ever read the Book of Enoch?

No. I have heard of it, but haven't read it.

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[Lambano]

But why weren't there rainbows before that? (Genesis 2:5-6)

And yet, rainbows are built into Genesis 1:3.

Now, the MEANING of a rainbow.... that's a different question. And it may have more than one answer.

"I believe that every student should one day find himself staring down the barrel of a Maxwell's Equation" - Dr. Robert Abernathy, Physicist, Russian Lit prof, and science fiction author

 

[St. SteVen]

And yet, rainbows are built into Genesis 1:3.

Did Noah have a wife?
Maybe it was a gay PRIDE rainbow? - LOL
(sick humor)

Everyone on the ark was paired up, right?

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