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LOLOL!!! I somehow KNEW you were going to say something about reading your mind! But wait...isn't it usually the WOMAN who expects the MAN to read HER mind?! At least, that's what I've heard...:hmhehm

That's very astute of you, lol. That is indeed what many women say! He should know...Lol.
Soo...right back at ya'! But like I said, I'm not one given to complaining about food when a woman has made it for me. That's something to be appreciated and have gratitude for. Besides, mayo or mato, it's all the same for the most part.

I have read the Bible from cover-to-cover. Twice. Took me about 9 months both times. Have read the NT three times. Use the Bible on a daily basis. I'll do a bible study on a whole chapter and even a whole book. I do word studies as well. I read the comments and footnotes. I use other sources such as BibleHub and Bible Gateway. I compare different versions and different commentaries on the same verses. I've read the "missing" books of the bible, and find some of them to be utterly fascinating! The Dead Sea Scrolls are a 'special interest' of mine lately. Have looked into Jeff Benner's Mechanical Translation of the Torah. I wish he would finish the rest of the Bible!

I do other research online as well and have dabbled in Apologetics (which I ADORE).

Ok then, I stand corrected!


Jesus DOES tells us to "keep seeking, keep asking, keep knocking..." I apply that to my faith 'journey'. It's hard to say where I'm coming from right now as I KNOW I don't have it 'all figured out'. But I'm not giving up.

Well you are slightly mixed up on some things but at the same time the feminine woman inside of you is impossible to hide. So that's saying a lot in todays market, Lol! WHat is good to do when you come upon something in scripture and is vague to you is to ask the Holy Spirit to tell you what is means? And what is it's importance, Lord? and then you meditate on it a bit and receive the Holy Spirit's guidance.

I've been praying for wisdom & understanding for so long it's not funny. And discernment. I'm not saying that I know it all or have everything figured out but that's all we can do is to keep trying and keep praying and keep reading.

I don't read much about feminism, so I really don't know much of what's out there these days. But I DO STRONGLY believe in fairness and the policy of "Do Unto Others."

Everyone does.
 

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LOLOL!!! Meanwhile, my late husband was in a BAD car accident (his fault) while he was driving and I haven't had any!

There's always the exception to the rule. Maybe your it for that? You dont sound like a full blown feminist, not even close! IYou sound more like, somebody hurt you pretty bad. Like you have bitterness about it. Bitterness is a bad thing. Me and the Lord talked about bitterness. (mostly Him!) He said Unforgivess is a seed of bitterness in the heart. If it left there it becomes a root of bitterness and that is damaging to ones heart and soul. Harboring bitterness towards someone does more harm to the one who is bitter than the one they are bitter at. This is why He said forgive your enemies. Not as just an impossible task or commandment of yet another thing which is hard to do...but rather a warning to us so we dont accidently hurt ourselves spiritually and inhbit our spiritual growth!

O.k. Real Mayo it is! Oh my...did you just "submit" to ME???????????? Oh, the horror...the HORROR! Chkl:

I didnt submit to you. You offered me a sandwich and asked mayo or miracle whip and I like them both so whatever is on hand. Oh wait...Ok. There is a special kind of mayo from a ittlisland in the south Pacific and I think they sell it at Albertsons or Krogers. Go get me some of that, right now. Just because you wanted to argue about it, nyee!

I'm still hungry!


What happened there? Am I the exception too? You dont know men as well as you think you do, huh? Lol.
 

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Good! It was meant to be funny. When I dated, I had sympathy for the women I dated. The stories they told of men leading with pics of the privates seemed to be the norm. They made it so easy for me. All I had to do was carry on a conversation and look into her eyes not at her bosom.
Makes sense. I never tried online dating. Heard too many horror stories, PLUS, my own experiences with just walking down the street or browsing in a 7-11 turned me off to 'what's out there.' More on that in a minute...
On a serious note, I do have a frame of reference for the women on dating sites. Sympathy for them as well because they were not ready for the kind of relationship they claimed to want. Many of them had HUGE ego's. Others were angry, (like you came across in many of your posts in this thread). Others had a lot of emotional baggage.
When I tell you some stories about me, they're not only stories about men I've dated or have married. Some of the more recent stories are about men who have approached me on the street or in a store. Just recently, one guy in a wheelchair, asked me if I could help him find his cell phone. Of COURSE! I was ready to help the guy...
...until he wanted me to reach 'under his leg', up near his crotch against his skin. Uhhh....no. I walked away. Turned back to look at him in disgust. He was smiling.

Still think I'm "picking the wrong men?" I'm still wondering why so many 'wrong men' seem to pick ME, especially when I'm not even LOOKING to be 'picked'!
In total, that is looking at the experience in entirety, people are longing for connection. Some blame "the other." Some don't know the reason they cannot connect is because of themselves. I've posted many vids highlighting that. And @MA2444 has done a good job exploring that on a more personal basis. Please don't read any blame into my words. There is a radio station I listen to that has a good mantra, The world is full of nice people. If you cannot find one, be one.

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Thing is though, even if you try to be nice, you don't get nice back. No matter how nicely you can turn some men down, they'll turn on you.
Calling you vulgar names, telling you how 'wrong' you are for not 'getting with' them. Tell you 'what you're missing'. No thanks.
I raised 4 girls: 3 stepdaughters and 1 biological daughter. I'm happy to report my stepdaughters success in the area of men. 2 married their 1st boyfriend and one married her 2nd boyfriend. Rare these days. Naturally, I credit myself with the criteria they developed in picking good men. :D
My father was abusive to my mother. So that 'role model' is shot!
As my oldest stepdaughter was on the couch in the fetal position for days from the treatment of her first boyfriend in high schoo, I reluctantly intervened with great fear and trepidation. I simply said:
"You know I don't want to get involved in your love life.
<SIGH. LONG PAUSE>
"But you don't seem happy.
<LONG PAUSE>
"There are many jerks in the world. You don't have to date them all.
<LONG PAUSE>
"I love you, you know?
<AS I GENTLY TOUCHED HER SHOULDER>
"It will get easier."


My daughter was not so lucky, used as a pawn in the divorce, she struggled for a number of years, seeking male attention in ways she shouldn't have. It's still too painful for her to talk about how the women she trusted most, including most especially her own mother, betrayed her. Her mother encouraged behavior that she knew I would not allow; put her anger and vindictiveness toward me over the longterm, best interest of her own daughter. Thank God, my daughter is settled now with a hubby and kids. :D
Very sweet. Every empathetic and compassionate of you. Good of your daughter to settle down.

Both my daughters have good men in their lives now, too. :gd
 

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I'm impressed! I dont like working on cars either, but I can when I have to. I never rebuilt a engine block I let the shop do that and just bolted on the stuff, heads and stuff. I once rebuilt a Holly 4 barrel carberatour on the table with a parts kit. There was a lot to it but I got it done and it worked great first try! My wife at the time pretty much watched me do it and decided that her carb needed it too. And she did it! It was a small carb but still, she did everything from take it off the car to bolt it back on and hers worked good too.
I remember you telling this story before. So glad she did that! Not to try to 'show you up', but so she has confidence in herself.
Had I done the same thing in front of my late husband, he would have gotten highly upset if I succeeded. Would have accused me of "competing" with him, being 'better' than him, yadda, yadda, yadda.
I'm very mechanically inclined but of a different nature. I know where the red wire goes! I can disassemble your furnace or A/C into a zillion parts and put it back better. or plumbing stuff in the house, or the electrical system. Those are all fairly easy trades. Plumbing can get pretty hard though.
Wow! Not sure if I could...or would want to do that! And as for the electrical system well...some things I'd rather stay away from, simply because I just don't know enough about them. I once fixed my flash drive, but recently one of my living room lamps started smoking. Not about to try to figure that one out.
Ok, I know you used new bolts on it because you usually have to, but did you cut off the top of the bolts so the caps would fit on?
I was told to use new bolts by the guy at Home Depot, but I didn't have to cut off the tops. Maybe I just got lucky? Wouldn't have mattered. If I had to, I had a hacksaw at home so...
Yeah, that's a nasty job all right. No wonder us plumbers charge you so much do it! (That's why I wanted to go with HVAC (furnaces & A/C) because those guys dont have to work in the bathroom and are the "smart guys" of the Trades, lol). They have more respect than plumbers. After all, I know where the red wire goes!
LOL! Oh, I can see why you guys charge so much. I almost broke my back picking that toilet up!
But it is how it works so many times in the financial area of life. Sad to say.
Agreed.
 
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Still think I'm "picking the wrong men?" I'm still wondering why so many 'wrong men' seem to pick ME, especially when I'm not even LOOKING to be 'picked'!
Well, this scenario is not about you picking men.

I used to be close to a guy who went to the same church as us. He leveraged my Good Will in buying him stuff he said he needed. There, the issue was not sexism but (reverse) racism. He felt entitled to my buying him stuff on demand. How did I get so lucky as to deserve the honor of being used and manipulated by him.

I told my wife about the trajectory of the relationship. So, she was not surprised that one day, I just dropped him like a bad habit. I'm sure he thinks he's the victim in that dynamic.

Getting back to triumphing over feminism; one of the biggest is that women are victimized by the boogey-man, aka the Patriarchy. It is not a collection of men but a collection of elite who've earned oligarch status one way or another. Let me say it this way, meritocracy. This explains why men died by the millions over the century. It never was men v women but libertarians v oppressors. The current Deep State has a polcy much like 1984 of always being at war. Trump stands in the way.

TPTB want identity politics infighting to distract us from their machinations. $34T in debt. $142T in unfunded liabilities. The dissolution of sovereignty via open borders and open crime, disease, political malfeasance of social turmoil. Some are so distorted by hate and TDS, they'd rather this continue than MAGA carry the day.

I know the philsophical underpinnings of the evil ideology of Cultural Marxism (which feminism has been subsumed by) but only God can change the human heart.
 

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That's very astute of you, lol. That is indeed what many women say! He should know...Lol.
Soo...right back at ya'! But like I said, I'm not one given to complaining about food when a woman has made it for me. That's something to be appreciated and have gratitude for. Besides, mayo or mato, it's all the same for the most part.
:Hnds I happen to LOVE cooking so cooking has never been an issue for me.
Ok then, I stand corrected!
Of course, I haven't done much of that TODAY because TODAY I've been posting to someone on a certain forum. :Broadly:
Well you are slightly mixed up on some things but at the same time the feminine woman inside of you is impossible to hide. So that's saying a lot in todays market, Lol! WHat is good to do when you come upon something in scripture and is vague to you is to ask the Holy Spirit to tell you what is means? And what is it's importance, Lord? and then you meditate on it a bit and receive the Holy Spirit's guidance.
I do that sometimes. When I remember to. I actually have an ongoing relationship with Jesus throughout the day.
I've been praying for wisdom & understanding for so long it's not funny. And discernment. I'm not saying that I know it all or have everything figured out but that's all we can do is to keep trying and keep praying and keep reading.
Glad to see you do that. I think it's what so many people are missing in their lives. Then again, I'm more concerned about what *I'M* missing in my own life to be judgmental about others.
Everyone does.
Eh. I wouldn't say everyone. Some people are too selfish to care. Makes life a bit more difficult for others.
 

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There is!! WGTOW is a community of women supporting other women who wish to live independently from men and relationships with them. They don't desire marriage or motherhood. It's not that they hate men (although SOME do), or that they're feminists (SOME are) but that they embrace their single lives independent of romantic relationships.

Many of the WGTOW were traumatized by a male romantic partner(s) and they decided to 'take a break' from romantic relationships. Once they did, the realized that they enjoy singlehood much, much more than being in a relationship.

While I don't think WGTOW is a 'movement' that's as large as MGTOW, but it's gaining strength in numbers every day.
Seems tragic in the long run.
A whole society moving away from committed relationships and child-bearing.
Not the natural state of things.

It was obvious to God in the beginning that man should not be alone.
(which the narrative presents like an observation of the creators, as if it wasn't foreseen)

These days it is becoming obvious to both men and women that they may be better off alone.
And they both have their reasons. (sigh)

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These days it is becoming obvious to both men and women that they may be better off alone.
And they both have their reasons. (sigh)
As we get further into the apocolypse and tribulation, as judgment befalls Babylon, we will re-learn what is important. And it aint the evil ideals of feminism.
 

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Gen 2:21a-22a . . So the Lord God cast a deep sleep upon the man; and,
while he slept, He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that spot.
And the Lord God fashioned the rib that He had taken from the man into a
woman;

The woman isn't presented as a unique species; she was constructed with
material taken from the man's body, viz: the woman was the flip side of the
same coin rather than a whole other coin of her own.

Gen 2:22b . . and He introduced her to the man.

The woman wasn't given an opportunity to fit in with the animal kingdom
before giving her to the man probably because her specific purpose was to
be with a man (Gen 2:18) whereas Adam's specific purpose was to represent
the image and likeness of God. (Gen 1:26 & 1Cor 11:7) Men can make do
with a hound dog and/or a soccer ball named Wilson if they have to; but as
a rule, normal women can't. (I think we may safely assume Eve was normal
at first)

Men and Women share a lot of similarities; but the resolve to go it solo, to
be a rugged individual, is not one of them. There are exceptions, of course;
but as a rule, women do not care to live alone and unloved in the world. It's
curious, but when we think of hermits; our minds typically think of them as
male because female hermits just seem so contrary to nature.

Gen 2:23a . .Then the man said: This one at last is bone of my bones and
flesh of my flesh.

The man's rib wasn't taken out of his body as only a bare section from his
skeleton, rather, it was taken from him with meat on it; which of course
would've included some of his blood too in order to keep the meat from
dying, which would've rendered it quite useless for constructing the woman
"for the life of the flesh is in the blood" (Lev 17:11)

The one who designed a man said it is not good for a man to live alone. And
if it's not good for a man to live alone, then it goes without saying that it's
not good for a woman either. If men are supposed to be happier with a
woman, then women should be happier with a man. In other words:
mankind's designer didn't intend men and women to function independently
of each other. They were created to be together; as couples.

Gen 2:24a . . Hence a man leaves his father and mother and clings to his
wife,

Most people don't care much for needy spouses because they're so high
maintenance; but I don't think Genesis is talking about that kind of clinging.

It's said that dogs are Man's best friend. No they aren't; dogs are
domesticated beasts. They might bring a man his slippers, guard his
property, and lick his face; but a dog lacks the capacity to be concerned that
a man isn't eating right and getting enough sleep and/or sympathize with a
man when his job is outsourced to cheap labor in India.

How many dogs shared their master's alarm when the housing bubble burst
in 2008 and Wall Street fell off a cliff resulting in thousands of people all
over the globe suddenly finding themselves with a severely diminished 401K,
unemployed, and losing their homes? Had one done so, that would've been a
very unusual dog.
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There's always the exception to the rule. Maybe your it for that? You dont sound like a full blown feminist, not even close! IYou sound more like, somebody hurt you pretty bad. Like you have bitterness about it. Bitterness is a bad thing. Me and the Lord talked about bitterness. (mostly Him!) He said Unforgivess is a seed of bitterness in the heart. If it left there it becomes a root of bitterness and that is damaging to ones heart and soul. Harboring bitterness towards someone does more harm to the one who is bitter than the one they are bitter at. This is why He said forgive your enemies. Not as just an impossible task or commandment of yet another thing which is hard to do...but rather a warning to us so we dont accidently hurt ourselves spiritually and inhbit our spiritual growth!
No, not a 'full blown feminist'. I tried to explain that to Wrangler, but...*shrugs*
I'm not so much 'bitter', but sometimes I DO get disgusted. The guy in the wheelchair I mentioned is only ONE example of what has happened in my life on a REGULAR basis for the past 5 years. And I'm no 'beauty queen'.

I don't dress provocatively. Even in 108 degree heat, I'm wearing a pair of long jeans. I don't show any cleavage, but I'm wearing a loose fitting tank top. No make up on, hair tied back. When I walk on the street, my eyes are usually downcast, so I'm not looking in anyone's eyes. All of this doesn't work. Still can't avoid the lewd comments...the unwanted touching (yes, I said TOUCHING), the trying to block me...And this is being done by YOUNGER men. Men in their 20's and 30's.

While I'm not afraid to walk out of my door, I DO sometimes experience dread if I have to walk by a bunch of men hanging out on the street near a market or a bus stop.
I didnt submit to you. You offered me a sandwich and asked mayo or miracle whip and I like them both so whatever is on hand. Oh wait...Ok. There is a special kind of mayo from a ittlisland in the south Pacific and I think they sell it at Albertsons or Krogers. Go get me some of that, right now. Just because you wanted to argue about it, nyee!

I'm still hungry!
No, no, no! YOU told ME to "make you a sandwich!" and...oh wait...did *I* submit to YOU? Oh, NO, say it isn't SO! Again, the horror...the HORROR!

By the way, they have both Albertson AND Krogers here where I live. Since YOU have the car, go git yer own! I'm too busy posting to someone online. :jest:
What happened there? Am I the exception too? You dont know men as well as you think you do, huh? Lol.
No, no, you wrote:
MA2444 said:
And listen to yourself! Wow this is a statement that may comes from a good woman. So we know that you have some of this left in you somewhere! It might have sounded to you ike you were making a joke, but, not really.

Good on ya for asking! Thank you.
When I responded with "Hmmm..." it's because I don't think of myself as a "good woman." Sigh...
 

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Well, this scenario is not about you picking men.

I used to be close to a guy who went to the same church as us. He leveraged my Good Will in buying him stuff he said he needed. There, the issue was not sexism but (reverse) racism. He felt entitled to my buying him stuff on demand. How did I get so lucky as to deserve the honor of being used and manipulated by him.

I told my wife about the trajectory of the relationship. So, she was not surprised that one day, I just dropped him like a bad habit. I'm sure he thinks he's the victim in that dynamic.
Yuck. My late husband used to tell me that I needed him to be with me when I bought a car because "men will take advantage of a woman who's alone." Later on, we had to bring the car to a mechanic. Now, my late hubby was a 'motor-head' by his own definition. And yet he realized later, that his mechanic took advantage of HIM. So, I guess that SOME men will take advantage of WHOEVER THEY CAN. It's not a 'gender' thing.

Unfortunately, 'church' doesn't protect the innocent.
Getting back to triumphing over feminism; one of the biggest is that women are victimized by the boogey-man, aka the Patriarchy. It is not a collection of men but a collection of elite who've earned oligarch status one way or another. Let me say it this way, meritocracy. This explains why men died by the millions over the century. It never was men v women but libertarians v oppressors. The current Deep State has a polcy much like 1984 of always being at war. Trump stands in the way.
Ok. I can see your point. I don't see Patriarchy as "all bad" just the same as I don't see Feminism as "all bad." Unfortunately, I don't think the "collection of elite" have all "EARNED" their status. Some have forcefully taken it...some have lied their way into it...some were born into it. But 'earned'? I'll have to think about that some more.
TPTB want identity politics infighting to distract us from their machinations. $34T in debt. $142T in unfunded liabilities. The dissolution of sovereignty via open borders and open crime, disease, political malfeasance of social turmoil. Some are so distorted by hate and TDS, they'd rather this continue than MAGA carry the day.

I know the philsophical underpinnings of the evil ideology of Cultural Marxism (which feminism has been subsumed by) but only God can change the human heart.
I...really have no idea what you're saying. I'm sooooo NOT into any kind of political 'stuff'. Not a fan of Trump. Or Kamala. Or anyone else for that matter. My attitude is, that once Jesus runs for office, THEN I'll cast my vote. Until then, eh. Not interested.
 

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Men like you are the BEST reason for WGTOW. - LOL

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Fine by me. Your gyno-centrism is noted. In response to a negative reaction men have to the evils of feminism, all you can do is brush that off the table and replace it with something else that is gyno-centric. No possibility of any recognition of the evil ideology of feminism whatsoever. No possibility of genuine sympathy for the plight of men whose lives were ruined due to the evil ideology of feminism.

No one cares if women go their own way.


Women hate MGTOW.



Until you understand the evil of feminism, you cannot hope to triumph over it.
 

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Seems tragic in the long run.
A whole society moving away from committed relationships and child-bearing.
Not the natural state of things.
Not so sure about that. After all Jesus said, (I'm paraphrasing) that SOME will be incapable of marriage. SOME because of how they were born, some because of 'others' and some because they gave it up for the kingdom. So, I don't believe that ALL men and women (adults) SHOULD be 'paired up'. So, maybe the question isn't so much about whether choosing to remain single and childless is 'natural'.

While I understand that there are MANY MGTOW and WGTOW, all the reasons aren't the same.
It was obvious to God in the beginning that man should not be alone.
(which the narrative presents like an observation of the creators, as if it wasn't foreseen)
Here I don't agree. God said that it not good for THE man to be alone; not for ALL men or "men" to not be alone. If God meant "ALL men", then why did Jesus say that SOME wouldn't choose marriage?
These days it is becoming obvious to both men and women that they may be better off alone.
And they both have their reasons. (sigh)

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Yes, it's true. In this day and age, I SWEAR that as human beings, we're DEvolving; not Evolving.
 

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As we get further into the apocolypse and tribulation, as judgment befalls Babylon, we will re-learn what is important. And it aint the evil ideals of feminism.
Probably the first time I AGREE with you, Wrangler. :Agreed:

1. Pride Is the Root of All Evil (Genesis 3:5; 1 Timothy 3:6; 1 John 2:15-17). 2. God Hates Pride (Proverbs 8:13; 16:5; Isaiah 23:9; Daniel 4:29-37; James 4:6; 1 Peter 5:5). 3. God Loves Humility (Proverbs 11:2, 15:33, 18:12, 29:23; Isaiah 57:15, 66:2; Micah 6:8; Luke 14:11; 1 Peter 5:6). 4. What Pride Is Not: a. Acknowledging and appreciating the gifts and abilities God has given you. b. The presence of godly desire, ambition and purposeful direction in your life (1 Timothy 3:1). c. Acknowledging the work of God within you. d. The pursuit of excellence. e. Defending and proclaiming the truth of Scripture. 5. Pride Is Deceptive (John 8:31-36; Jeremiah 49:16; Proverbs 16:2, 21:2).

Pride = arrogance. The Bible teaches us to put others ahead of ourselves. Can you imagine if we ALL did this?
 

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Gen 2:21a-22a . . So the Lord God cast a deep sleep upon the man; and,
while he slept, He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that spot.
And the Lord God fashioned the rib that He had taken from the man into a
woman;

The woman isn't presented as a unique species; she was constructed with
material taken from the man's body, viz: the woman was the flip side of the
same coin rather than a whole other coin of her own.

Gen 2:22b . . and He introduced her to the man.

The woman wasn't given an opportunity to fit in with the animal kingdom
before giving her to the man probably because her specific purpose was to
be with a man (Gen 2:18) whereas Adam's specific purpose was to represent
the image and likeness of God. (Gen 1:26 & 1Cor 11:7) Men can make do
with a hound dog and/or a soccer ball named Wilson if they have to; but as
a rule, normal women can't. (I think we may safely assume Eve was normal
at first)

Men and Women share a lot of similarities; but the resolve to go it solo, to
be a rugged individual, is not one of them. There are exceptions, of course;
but as a rule, women do not care to live alone and unloved in the world. It's
curious, but when we think of hermits; our minds typically think of them as
male because female hermits just seem so contrary to nature.
Seeming so and BEING so are two different concepts. Several examples in the bible of women who are widows...and choose NOT to marry again.

The whole idea of being a 'hermit' is to not have any contact with ANYONE. Plenty of women have no problem 'going it solo', a.k.a without a constant male presence in their lives. And they do just fine. They often have family, friends.
Gen 2:23a . .Then the man said: This one at last is bone of my bones and
flesh of my flesh.

The man's rib wasn't taken out of his body as only a bare section from his
skeleton, rather, it was taken from him with meat on it; which of course
would've included some of his blood too in order to keep the meat from
dying, which would've rendered it quite useless for constructing the woman
"for the life of the flesh is in the blood" (Lev 17:11)

The one who designed a man said it is not good for a man to live alone. And
if it's not good for a man to live alone, then it goes without saying that it's
not good for a woman either. If men are supposed to be happier with a
woman, then women should be happier with a man. In other words:
mankind's designer didn't intend men and women to function independently
of each other. They were created to be together; as couples.
Again, the Bible doesn't say that it's not good for ALL men to be alone, but for THE man to be alone.
Gen 2:24a . . Hence a man leaves his father and mother and clings to his
wife,

Most people don't care much for needy spouses because they're so high
maintenance; but I don't think Genesis is talking about that kind of clinging.
No, it's not. And notice that it's the MAN who leaves his father and mother and clings to his wife...and not the WOMAN who leaves her parents and clings to her husband? Hmmmm...
It's said that dogs are Man's best friend. No they aren't; dogs are
domesticated beasts. They might bring a man his slippers, guard his
property, and lick his face; but a dog lacks the capacity to be concerned that
a man isn't eating right and getting enough sleep and/or sympathize with a
man when his job is outsourced to cheap labor in India.
LOL! Isn't it interesting that a man STILL wants his wife to bring him his slippers and lick his face?
Just thought I'd throw that in for fun.
How many dogs shared their master's alarm when the housing bubble burst
in 2008 and Wall Street fell off a cliff resulting in thousands of people all
over the globe suddenly finding themselves with a severely diminished 401K,
unemployed, and losing their homes? Had one done so, that would've been a
very unusual dog.
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You think that ALL women had this concern? Naaah. It's the MAN'S problem.
 

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Fine by me. Your gyno-centrism is noted. In response to a negative reaction men have to the evils of feminism, all you can do is brush that off the table and replace it with something else that is gyno-centric. No possibility of any recognition of the evil ideology of feminism whatsoever. No possibility of genuine sympathy for the plight of men whose lives were ruined due to the evil ideology of feminism.

No one cares if women go their own way.


Women hate MGTOW.



Until you understand the evil of feminism, you cannot hope to triumph over it.
No one really cares if MEN go their own way either.
 

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St. SteVen said:
Seems tragic in the long run.
A whole society moving away from committed relationships and child-bearing.
Not the natural state of things.
Not so sure about that. After all Jesus said, (I'm paraphrasing) that SOME will be incapable of marriage. SOME because of how they were born, some because of 'others' and some because they gave it up for the kingdom. So, I don't believe that ALL men and women (adults) SHOULD be 'paired up'. So, maybe the question isn't so much about whether choosing to remain single and childless is 'natural'.
Celibacy was not the norm. (natural state of things) In Jesus day polygamy was the norm.
The qualification for an Elder was the husband of one wife.


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