Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[Wrangler]

I thought @Wynona would like this.

 

[Wynona]

I thought @Wynona would like this.

My husband asked me to quit my job when he saw how much I hated it. I was relieved and quit the next day. I didn't have a lot of housewife skills but one of the first things I did was try baking bread.

It did not turn out great the first time. But when my husband's sister complimented me on it and ate it gratefully, there was a realness to that that I never felt from earning paychecks.

My paychecks absorbed into the bills like water on desert ground. The bread, and feeding others with it felt so much more tangible. I was hooked on homemaking from that point.

I will likely never work outside the home again unless God says so or I have to in ordsr to survive. Home is not only creative and rewarding. I see it as a serving ministry.

 

[Wynona]

I wanted to talk about some major slept on Scriptures: Genesis 2:18 and Titus 2:3-5

18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. (Genesis 2:18)

Eve is the help meet and the companion of Adam. The first woman, taken out of man.Together they are one flesh, not roommates or two parties with two sets of competing interests.

I wanted my husband to lead and asked him to before we got married, which was anew idea for him. But I had a hard time submitting with any consistency in the beginning because I failed to understand Genesis 2:18.

Like many feminist influenced women, I was taugtht that I had to secure my own interests first through education and career so that I could not be taken advantage of as a wife and mother. My degree and career would guarantee some security and freedom should my marriage go haywire.

This mindset is not cleaving to your spouse. It is not biblical. Instead of focusing on helping my husband in his calling, I was focused on securing myself as an individual party and I just could not submit to my husband's wishes that would lead me to fully commit to him and fully invest in the marriage.

This independent mindset led to actions I now am ashamed of and almost shipwrecked my marriage. It was in that wreckage that I learned to treasure God's Word above my own ways.

Let me point out Titus 2:3-5 in my next post.

 

[Wynona]

3 The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;

4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,

5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
(Titus 2:3-5)


I love the Word of God. But the best way for me to honor it and point to it is not to get up on a stage somewhere and call myself a pastor, usurping the order that men are called to.

I don't need to be seen by a crowd to serve and I don't need to be a pastor to be in ministry. God sees every contribution made at home that is done out of love and that is more than enough.

When I love my husband and obey him, God's Word is on display. When I keep my home increasingly well, God is honored. When I prioritize my children over my selfish desires, it will ensure they have no reason to resent the faith.

Obeying my husband is not about how deserving he is in a moment. It is about the Word of God being honored. It is a direct reflection of my reverence for the Lord.

My career is helping my husband. It's my ministry. Its where other ministries flow from. It is vitally important. I don't need to be a pastor up in front to be important. I just need to follow God's Word.

 

[Wrangler]

One of the most beautiful posts that I have ever read.

 

[MA2444]

I didn't have a lot of housewife skills but one of the first things I did was try baking bread.

Did you figure it out? I have tried several times to bake bread and it always flops somehow.

They sure make it look easy but I seem to be missing something, lol.

 

[Wynona]

Did you figure it out? I have tried several times to bake bread and it always flops somehow.

They sure make it look easy but I seem to be missing something, lol.

It got better. No matter what the recipe says, let that dough rise at least three hours. Be patient about that because it doesn't turn right if you short cut it.

 

[Wynona]

One of the most beautiful posts that I have ever read.

Thank you! You're not bad at expressing things yourself.

 

[Wrangler]

Can you tel me the four rules of gun safety?

1. Never point the gun as someone unless you plan to kill them. (Be sure of target and beyond)
2. Assume all guns are loaded.
3. Keep the barrel pointed down range.
4. Safety locks are not safe as they are a mechanical device and can fail. Don't trust them. And don't even put your finger on the trigger until you're ready to shoot.
5. Gun control means hitting your target.*


* This last one is the most important gun safety rule. The only reason for the 2A is in case the government "forgets" to honor the rest of our rights and confuses who the master is and who the servant is.

The 2A is NOT for hunters or target sportsman; It is in the event of tyranny. The historical danger of the common criminal pales in comparison to the destruction the State has wrought onto its own people. Accidental gun discharges are even less a relatively small concern from the POV of historical destruction of 100's of millions.

And that taught me a valuable lesson. The woman might be in (temporary) control of the home, but when she is willing to hand the reins of control back to the man, she will do it at a moments notice!

The speed of abdicating responsibility is in the context of negative consequences of choices. I have a similar story regarding my 1st wife.

When we moved into our 1st home with our 4 little girls, my grandfather gave me his shot gun and .22 rifle. I decided to keep the shotgun loaded for home defense and kept it in a gun cabinet in the bedroom. My wife nagged me about it but I held my ground. (Not listening to the wife about important matters is THE lesson from Original Sin).

One night there was a bump in the night that woke us both up. She asked if I heard it. My mind raced. What was that? Why didn't the dog bark? Is the dog already dead? Is the intruder already in the house? Should I get the gun? I asked my wife, "Are you glad I have the gun?" For the first time she immediately and emphatically answered, "YES." She finally saw the gun for what it is; an asset and not a liability; a means to protect the children not harm them.

 

[Wrangler]

This is a funny vid of extreme feminists abandoning feminism when they have to pay alimony. You can't make this stuff up! LOL

 

[Mink57]

So what makes you believe that if you were to be submissive to a man and perform wifely functions for him, that he's not going to love you for that or that he would take advantage of the situation? Experience? Perhaps you merely made some poor choices?

Not only through MY experience, but from the last 25 years of me being online and listening/reading about other women's experiences.

I can see where that would make you think that way.
I think I made you mad at me. but I'm not putting you down. I'm just talking straight to you. I know how men think. I am a man.

I'm not mad at you. I know how men think too, and the first 'rule of order' is that not all men think alike.

You said you have several long term relationships that the men was bad men and did not treat you fairly...right? So riddle me this?

How many bad men must abuse a girl before she catches n to the fact, I did this to myself for choosing the wrong sort of man? I will say no next time to that kind of guy! How many?

There are many people -- both men and women -- who still have no clue as to what abuse is. Abuse rarely begins on the first date...or even within the first few months of dating (or longer). The abuse often begins subtly. Could be a negative comment about her clothes (too sexy/not sexy enough), or family, friends, job, education, hobbies, nutritional choices, etc. And it escalates from there.

Thing is, that many women DO blame themselves once a man starts to abuse her.

All men arent like that. I'm sorry you were hurt by them, but it isnt their fault that you said yes. You are an intelligent girl, and you even knew how romantic me buying my girl a roll of Lifesavers was! (She had the same spirit and loved it and said so!) But I think perhaps you just might not have thought it through completely yet.

I know ALL men aren't like that. I am responsible for myself, and they are responsible for themselves.

I said no to quite a few women! I caught on quick. I can recognize the bad girls. I left one of them sitting in McDonalds because I never came back from the bathroom. I couldnt Marry her! We all make mistakes. It happens but you have to own up to your own part, dont you?

I have.

 

[MA2444]

It got better. No matter what the recipe says, let that dough rise at least three hours. Be patient about that because it doesn't turn right if you short cut it.

I tried to be patient and I'm not sure if it ever did rise. Maybe my yeast was outdated. I was thinking about trying some self raising flour to see if I can make that work. Maybe I'll get some new yeast too because I have a lot of flour stored in my pantry and should be using it up.

 

[MA2444]

1. Never point the gun as someone unless you plan to kill them. (Be sure of target and beyond)
2. Assume all guns are loaded.
3. Keep the barrel pointed down range.
4. Safety locks are not safe as they are a mechanical device and can fail. Don't trust them. And don't even put your finger on the trigger until you're ready to shoot.
5. Gun control means hitting your target.*

You're not a Sister, are you? I didnt think so, lol. If you're male then of course you know them, by instinct almost! You got pretty close to how I laid it out to my kids (and wife) but you seem to have the gist of it.

1. All guns are always considered loaded.
2. Keep you finger off the trigger until the sights are on the target.
3. Never let the muzzle cover anything that you're not willing to destroy.
4. Be sure of your target, and what is beyond.

* This last one is the most important gun safety rule. The only reason for the 2A is in case the government "forgets" to honor the rest of our rights and confuses who the master is and who the servant is.

I'll buy that. My four rules was from when they first came out with them in a gun magazine. I think it was Jeff Cooper or maybe it was Massad Ayoob? But that was the 80's & 90's so they sure have had time to multiply These should be on the list!

5. Gun Control is hitting your Target.
6. The only reason you ever fight with a Pistol, is to get back to the Riflr that you shouldn't have laid down in the first place.
7. When buying guns, one is none and two is one.
Don't draw too soon, wait your turn to draw.

Eh?

The 2A is NOT for hunters or target sportsman; It is in the event of tyranny. The historical danger of the common criminal pales in comparison to the destruction the State has wrought onto its own people. Accidental gun discharges are even less a relatively small concern from the POV of historical destruction of 100's of millions.

I know Brother! I only said it that way because it is still at least somewhat acceptable as acoomplishments in firearms that can be said to be good by the secular world.. This is peace time anyway, for the moment at least. But I dont have my AR yet, I need to buy another one. I'm very mindful of tyranny. I am a Reloader of my own ammo also. I have some guns that have never fired a factory made round before! Those are some of the .44s in my avatar that I cast and load.

Yup. But they dont like to hear that, lol. Reloading is really, pretty easy. I've been reloading my on ammo for around 50 years now and I've never blown up a gun. It isnt rocket science. I still spend as much as you do for ammo, (Because one buys conponants in bulk) so I get to shoot lots more tha you do.

But I digress, this thread about women. In fairness I have to say that, in my experience of being around many different shooters I must say that...the girls who bother with it enough to learn how to shoot, are almost always better than their husband. My sister was better than all 3 of us boys and my mom was better than my dad. So women can shoot if learnt. So my question is this, if a Feminist can shoot a gun good, is she better than the feminine girls or will her newfound feminist masulinity allow for the Feminie girls to be better on average? (LOL) We didnt have masculine women in my day, lol. They were there I suppose. We called them bull dykes, lol. But it wasnt like today for sure.

It has been said that, God didnt make women equal to men. Samuel Colt did!

When we moved into our 1st home with our 4 little girls, my grandfather gave me his shot gun and .22 rifle. I decided to keep the shotgun loaded for home defense and kept it in a gun cabinet in the bedroom. My wife nagged me about it but I held my ground. (Not listening to the wife about important matters is THE lesson from Original Sin).

Agreed. I think it is in scripture if I'm not mistaken, Do not give your strength to a woman...which I took to mean, I am the man and do have the responsibility moreso than the woman and must step up to the accountability for it. Do not give her your leadership. That is against scripture.

Man was created first before women were created and so man has seniority over the woman. Just like God was before man was created, so God has Seniority over man. And this is the very reason that Adam was held responsible for the fall and not the woman, Eve.
Well, Adam you're going have to deal with her yourself, it sounds like she was decived and I'll let you handle that...(God)

If women (feminists) try to be mans better, then they say in their heart they are better than God? What makes them thnk that they can be all submissive to the Lord in heaven when they cant even do it for a man, their husband?
Everything is types and shadows. He gave us Marriage as a dry run practice exercise to teach us humility, submissiveness and relationships. Given to us as a learning device.

No man sets the pecking order in the universe. It goes:
God.
Man.
Woman.

So God has leadership over all, and man has leadership over the woman.
You're not allowed to have a gun cabinet with loaded guns in it...
Excuse me sweetheart, I have to check with my Boss about that...
Honey I'm sorry but He said no that it is my responsibility to protect you and so I must override your feelings on the subject and say, the gun stays. (That's what my Boss said, Honey!)

One night there was a bump in the night that woke us both up. She asked if I heard it. My mind raced. What was that? Why didn't the dog bark? Is the dog already dead? Is the intruder already in the house? Should I get the gun? I asked my wife, "Are you glad I have the gun?" For the first time she immediately and emphatically answered, "YES." She finally saw the gun for what it is; an asset and not a liability; a means to protect the children not harm them.

See? There you are. My wife did the same thing almost! When I told her that, no honey I didnt bring a gun to the restaurant with me, she said, Oh so the one time we really might need it, you dont have it! (Nothing about she said dont carry, or about we hadnt even been home since the restaurant so I couldnt possibly have it!) I believe that in retrospect she was saying protecting her is more important than obeying her. She handed me those reins and accountbility so fast that it made my head spin!
No help from the Lord about her weirdo woman logic, lol. He told us men that we have to deal with her ourselves! (Lord dont leave me now!) lol.
What do you mean you have no ace in the whole? A real man would!
I can imagine hearing that lol. If it's always going to be us mens fault then if it comes down to a disagreement then men have the seniority and leadership resonsibility to say o to her and...that is when she sould be submissive and say ok, whatever you think best. Is there any way that I can help?

 

[MA2444]

Not only through MY experience, but from the last 25 years of me being online and listening/reading about other women's experiences.

Oh I know, the dating pool is getting mighty thin for women. Half the men are gay or transformer, the other half are drunks or druggies, othrs are just bums and want to live off the women and wont hold down a job, and out of the seven men left over on the planet which are good men...they're all already married!

So I understand women's plight. It is hard for them to find a man who will treat them properly and just love them and fulfill their responsibilities so women started getting very competitive and dying thier hair blue to get more attention. I never dated a woman with blue hair in my life. We called them girls Tropical fish. (good chance their poisonous!). I keep right on walking. They get their extra attention that they want and then keep sleeping with the bad boys who only bring their seed to the table. So the good men backed off now! And with the advent of commonly available DNA tests it has been shown that fully 30% of men are raising someone elses child. 30 men out of 100...
So what I think happened is that once women start playing the attention game and became promiscuous then later on she is unable to be satisfied by one man. And the man that fathered the baby is bum looking to score. Then the women look around them at all the good men that they have friend zoned and pick a suitable man to provide and raise the child.

Not fair! ot fair at all. Lying scheming women. They got away with it for a long time, but it's catching up to them every time a man says no...

I'm not sympathetic with those women at all. It's getting so a man cant even raise a family anymore because he would have to share her with the neighbrohood and raise the lies of her exploits.And those feminists who have high standards in a man, lol. He must be 6' tall or more, and make $250,000 year and pay all her bills and keep her...but not be insecure and limit her freedom, for she is a strong independant woman and he better just get used to it.
Be a man and do all of your responsibilities, and no, I dont cook or clean, hire a nanny if you want that!

Umm, No. No wonder men have started ignoring women. There's more and more tropical fish all the time so it aint worth it. She has too many demands for me! But you know what? It is sooo peaceful here at my house. I live alone, just me and the Lord here. And I love it. I've been asked out 4 times by women since I've been here, lol. Nope sorry.

 

[Wynona]

I tried to be patient and I'm not sure if it ever did rise. Maybe my yeast was outdated. I was thinking about trying some self raising flour to see if I can make that work. Maybe I'll get some new yeast too because I have a lot of flour stored in my pantry and should be using it up.

In date yeast, warm water and sugar to activate it, and lots of rising time. Itll be great!!

 

[MA2444]

I'm not mad at you. I know how men think too, and the first 'rule of order' is that not all men think alike.

That's for sure.

There are many people -- both men and women -- who still have no clue as to what abuse is. Abuse rarely begins on the first date...or even within the first few months of dating (or longer). The abuse often begins subtly. Could be a negative comment about her clothes (too sexy/not sexy enough), or family, friends, job, education, hobbies, nutritional choices, etc. And it escalates from there.

I guess I got lucky. I was the youngest of 4 kids and we had plenty of cousins and all that and so I got to watch from the sidelines the older people dealing with each other and their girlfriends and breakups and all that so I learned early. Those kind of girls are not good. Dont be a drunk or a druggie. Much drama for people who get into those things. She did what to him?!! Whoa. So I knew early what to watch out for. And about the time I started dating girls I made myself a promise. Whenever I break up with a girl I will not step down and settle for a lesser girl next time! I've seen several people who did that and it never got better again. You better learn how to say No boy! And I did and stuck to it. I was choosy and I even dated after my divorce several times. I seen what he dating scene has become. I'm pert sure that I'm done dating women. That was my dry run for marriage 26 years so it taught me a lot but with my spiritual growth I have to be honest with myself and out the Lords will above my will. I had my turn. It's the Lords turn now! My marriage was good while it lasted but it isnt worth it anymore to date women. The have too much of a position of entitlement. They want the man to be a real man and to be that tradiontional husband without setting any boundries for them or making them perfore wifely duties.

I am to be a real man? She wears as a mask as we speak. (Makeup). So she aint real but I'm supposed to be?! Lol. Good one! What's her body count? She has two kids by different fathers? What does she even really weigh? Lol. It's too much drama and not worth it for mn to marry anymore.

 

[Wynona]

I think it is in scripture if I'm not mistaken, Do not give your strength to a woman...

Yes. Proverbs 31:3.

King Lemuel was repeating his mother's wisdom that whole chapter.

: )

 

[MA2444]

In date yeast, warm water and sugar to activate it, and lots of rising time. Itll be great!!

I'll try it. It would be good to be able to make bread! I bought a cast iron dutch oven just to make bread in...and I havent yet! They make it look so easy on the videos, lol. I can cook, no problem. I can even make some mean pies! But bread has escaped me so far. Dangit.

 

[Wynona]

He must be 6' tall or more, and make $250,000 year and pay all her bills and keep her...but not be insecure and limit her freedom, for she is a strong independant woman and he better just get used to it.

I have a way for the ladies to get the high value man.

Invest in an average value man and put in the work to make his life easier.

The men that are struggling to date because most women want the pre-made six figure roller are the men women need to give a shot.

EWomen being help meets implies...men need help. Maybe they don't start out with all their vision and all their stuff together but guess what? That is a lot of work. Is he just supposed to become high value just for himself?

Ive seen men discuss trying that approach and they say its not fulfilling alone.

A good woman, a good wife is motivating. Someone who makes life easier so he can focus on having the goals and vision that make a man magnetic.

 

[Wynona]

It's too much drama and not worth it for mn to marry anymore.

Seems to be a common consensus in America and other western countries today.

Doesn't bode well for the common good.

A virtuous woman, who can find? If a man does find her, he has found a very rare gem.