Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[CadyandZoe]

Right now, today, we need strong men of good character who are willing to sacrifice themselves for their families. Men need to stand up for their daughters, and sons need to stand up for their sisters.

 

[MA2444]

Right now, today, we need strong men of good character who are willing to sacrifice themselves for their families. Men need to stand up for their daughters, and sons need to stand up for their sisters.

I taught me kids to stick up for their Mother and not let kids talk smack about their Mother when she isnt there to defend herself! I said, Boys, this better be the only reason I ever hear that you had a fight at school. Violence is not good and doesnt solve anything. But Mothers are in a class by themself, and kids can be very cruel with their words.

One day it happened, I got the phone call from the school. Both of my kids have been suspended for fighting and I need to come pick them up and have a pow wow in the principles office. When I got there all 3 kids were there and the kids Parents, and the principle. I didnt even know what was up yet. The Priciple told me that my two kids had ganged up on one other kid for no apparent reason and messed him up pretty bad. This sort of shocked me because the kids had never got into a fight at school before. So He wants an explanation and I have 12 eyeballs on me paying very close attention to me! The kids got in a fight, how am I supposed to know why?!

But then I remembered what I told them about it'sok if it's for Mom! So I cooley turned and said to the Principal, I don't understand this, the only reason I told my kids violence was ok about is in defense of their Mother...and I swung my head around to look right at the kid who got beat up and asked him, what about that son, did you say something bad about these boys Mom?

And the kid starts studyig the floor very intently and gives a ittle nod of affirmation...Then I made eye contact with everybody and raised my hands up like...so now what? And it was real quiet! Suspension Reversed! The boy who got beat up got suspended!

I was so proud of my kids that day!
Oh, and yes, I did tell my kids that I was proud of them. They never did get into a 2nd fight at school. I guess the other students heard about it too!

 

[BlessedPeace]

Right now, today, we need strong men of good character who are willing to sacrifice themselves for their families. Men need to stand up for their daughters, and sons need to stand up for their sisters.

Because daughters wives sisters, can't stand up for themselves?

Stand up for.....what?

 

[CadyandZoe]

Because daughters wives sisters, can't stand up for themselves?

Stand up for.....what?

Are you a man?

 

[BlessedPeace]

Are you a man?

Are you?

What's my profile tell you?

 

[MA2444]

Are you?

What's my profile tell you?

It doesnt say anything. It says you keep your profile private so no one can see it unless you approve them first, lol.

I guess that's an answer. Not an answer form a strong independant woman, but at least you know!

 

[CadyandZoe]

Are you?

What's my profile tell you?

I typically don't read profiles. I was surprised and a bit disappointed when you asked the question. As I witness the culture's abuse of women today, I often ask my friends, "Where are the men today?" When fathers don't protect their daughters and brothers don't protect their sisters, there are no men.

Of course, grown women can earn their own money and buy their own bread. But today, in this world, women are bullied, in danger, and need protection. But culture has feminized boys, convincing them of "toxic" masculinity. Today, a grown man is allowed to claim that he is a woman, and our leaders, suffering from the same delusion, allow this to take place. When men were men, this behavior would not be allowed to stand.

 

[BlessedPeace]

I typically don't read profiles. I was surprised and a bit disappointed when you asked the question.

Really? You had no problem asking if I were a man.

As I witness the culture's abuse of women today, I often ask my friends, "Where are the men today?" When fathers don't protect their daughters and brothers don't protect their sisters, there are no men.

Of course, grown women can earn their own money and buy their own bread. But today, in this world, women are bullied, in danger, and need protection. But culture has feminized boys, convincing them of "toxic" masculinity. Today, a grown man is allowed to claim that he is a woman, and our leaders, suffering from the same delusion, allow this to take place. When men were men, this behavior would not be allowed to stand.

I suggest you stop painting the world of men with a brush of your invention.

Sure ridiculously emasculating,as intended, terms like toxic masculinity, have entered our nomenclature.

However,just because that phrase arrives it does not mean it has altered all men everywhere so they fall under its description.

Besides that,it can be used as an excuse to infantalize women. Which is just as ridiculous. Especially when women are the culprit.

The groundwork in the anti- Feminist movement is that which opposed strong independent women.

For some anti-Feminists, independence translates as obliteration of the male role entirely.

There may be some Feminists who do think that way.
However,that's not right in a blanket implication any more than those who think toxic masculinity and its implied castration of male power is affecting men today.
Especially wrong are those who imply that is the aftermath of Feminism.

 

[CadyandZoe]

Really? You had no problem asking if I were a man.

Yes, because men know their primary responsibility is protecting their daughters and wives. You know this don't you?

I suggest you stop painting the world of men with a brush of your invention.

Surely this isn't the first time you have heard about this is it?

Sure ridiculously emasculating,as intended, terms like toxic masculinity, have entered our nomenclature.

Yes. And why is that? We are witnessing an attack on women.

However,just because that phrase arrives it does not mean it has altered all men everywhere so they fall under its description.

I don't think I said it altered men everywhere. But males who are men are rare.

Besides that,it can be used as an excuse to infantalize women. Which is just as ridiculous. Especially when women are the culprit.

I don't follow you here. Protecting a woman isn't treating her as an infant. Men know that women need to be protected from other men who have both a strength and weight advantage over them.

The groundwork in the anti- Feminist movement is that which opposed strong independent women.

Maybe, but that isn't the reason why Feminism is wrong. Feminism is wrong because it teaches women that there is no difference between a man and a woman.

For some anti-Feminists, independence translates as obliteration of the male role entirely.

I don't know about that. I am not against women's independence. Independence isn't the problem. Feminism wasn't about women's independence. It was about women's liberation, and by "liberation," they meant willful ignorance of the differences between men and women.

There may be some Feminists who do think that way.
However,that's not right in a blanket implication any more than those who think toxic masculinity and its implied castration of male power is affecting men today.
Especially wrong are those who imply that is the aftermath of Feminism.

Well, it affected you since you didn't know the primary responsibility of a father and a brother.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Yes, because men know their primary responsibility is protecting their daughters and wives. You know this don't you?

Family is a unit. All working together as one.

Surely this isn't the first time you have heard about this is it?

It's the first time I've read someone implicate all men under one neo-ID.

Yes. And why is that? We are witnessing an attack on women.

Inventing the phrase toxic masculinity, is not a method for attack on women.

I don't think I said it altered men everywhere. But males who are men are rare.

Sad that's the case where you live.
Again,you're resorting to broad brush strokes of implication.

I don't follow you here. Protecting a woman isn't treating her as an infant. Men know that women need to be protected from other men who have both a strength and weight advantage over them.

Your implication is that women first cannot protect themselves.

Maybe, but that isn't the reason why Feminism is wrong. Feminism is wrong because it teaches women that there is no difference between a man and a woman.

You should learn what Feminism actually is before making arguments that prove you have no idea.

I don't know about that. I am not against women's independence. Independence isn't the problem. Feminism wasn't about women's independence. It was about women's liberation, and by "liberation," they meant willful ignorance of the differences between men and women.

Again,you need to educate yourself

Well, it affected you since you didn't know the primary responsibility of a father and a brother.

I was waiting for the child's jab. And there it is.

Enjoy your day.

 

[CadyandZoe]

Family is a unit. All working together as one.

Are you a communist or a Marxist?

It's the first time I've read someone implicate all men under one neo-ID.

It isn't new.

Inventing the phrase toxic masculinity is not a method for attack on women.

You can't be more wrong on this point. Those who affirm the concept of "Toxic Masculinity" consider the norms and behaviors associated with male roles to be detrimental to society when in fact, the opposite is true. Not only this, but when women sense a lack of masculinity, they adopt masculine traits in order to survive. In other words, without male masculinity present, women lose femininity. When men cease to be men, women cease to be women.

We seek men who are strong, brave, and selfless, ready to do what is necessary.

The Feminist movement was started and promoted by women who hated being women. They resented God for making them the way they were. They were unwilling to be and live the way God created them.

Again, you're resorting to broad brush strokes of implication.

I admit to making generalizations that are true.

Your implication is that women first cannot protect themselves.

I didn't intend to imply that women couldn't protect themselves. I am not arguing that men should protect women because they can't protect themselves. My argument is that keeping wives, daughters and sisters safe and secure is the God-given role of men. And when men don't act as they should, women will do the job themselves, which is contrary to their nature. Child rearing is virtually impossible for women who, by necessity, are required to be both the man and the woman in the family.

You should learn what Feminism actually is before making arguments that prove you have no idea.

I know what it is.

 

[MA2444]

I don't know about that. I am not against women's independence. Independence isn't the problem. Feminism wasn't about women's independence. It was about women's liberation, and by "liberation," they meant willful ignorance of the differences between men and women.

You said a mouthful there! Women have more independance now than in any other point in history! What is it that they can't do with the werewithal to do it? Nothing. Now maybe the agenda was to emasculate men and in fairness, maybe it wasnt. But what has been the cause (we already know) and what has been the effect.

What has happened is that the weak men are going the way of emasculation, and the strong men are saying no to marriage! And Pre-Nups have become a thing! 1 out of every 3 births is not to the husband, but I digress. Women dont seem to like emasculated men, and the good men are saying no.

So what is it that Feminists want from men? One poster mentioned that men make slaves out of women. I had to think about that one. Men (traditionally at least) have been the providers for all food whether it means going and pounding on a computer for 40 hours a week or traipsing through the mountains to kill a 500 pound Elk, or maybe a easy day hunting, a 250 pound deer, lol. I only had to get it over 3 ridgelines to get it to the truck. Provisio, food no matter what it takes.

And Women have (Traditionally at lest) have the part of caring for the kids, cooking, and cleaning the house. Could this be what the poster meant by men make them slaves? She shouldnt have to cook or clean?

What kind of partnership is that? Where would she rather be than caring for her family?

Barefoot, Pregnant and in the kitchen is not slavery. I would tink a woman and a Wife would jump at the chance to help her family. To be a part of it. To have that security of...Daddy's home with the groceries! We eat Steaks tonight!
Wll I'm not cooking them. I'm going to the club....Lol

When all those Feminists wake up at the wall as single unwed mothers they will curse Feminism. If they dont want to cook and clean, then is it ok if the Daddy stays home and does those duties? Can the slave wife then go to work and handle paying all the household bills?

Oh. They still want the bills paid for them, and Extra money! They have a name for type of woman, what is it?

Oh yeah, Divorcees. If they dont want to pay any bills and dont want to slave over the hot stove and then wash dishes....then what exactly does she bring to this partnership? What does she bring to the table? WHat makes her valuable? Is it that she hasnt hit the wall yet and is still young enough to be pretty? That goes away with time and all women gain weight as they age. Big deal, women gain weight. But it makes them less attractive to more and more men as the age. If they stayed with their man, she has made an investment and her Husband will Love her and care for her as long as he can. It get easier for them over time. The kids grow up and move out and the Husband slows down and dont make as many messes, lol!

But she didnt want to be a slave. She didnt want to be a contributing member to something wholesome and real. She wanted no accountability and no duties other than...what she wanted to do. Pizza tonight kids, I'm going to the club...Sad.

 

[MA2444]

Really? You had no problem asking if I were a man.

Was he being offensive to you? He cant see you online and not everybody knows that if you pay attention, you can tell by how they talk if they are a man or woman. You are a woman!

So why would it be offensive to ask if you are a man or woman? Is that some feminist ogic desgned to disparage him for asking anything when you sit and talk a list of demands? That's what emasculates men. He's the bad guy. Oh I have standards for him. He must not make me work in the house, or pay bills, and not ask where I am going. It's a girls night out I told you! (Lol)

And that's fine, you can choose your standards. Suppose I had all those feminine traits (Lol), I have standards too...How much do you weigh? I dont wrestle outside my weight class!

What is that they say? What's good for the Goose, is good for the Gander? So you started out being offensive by saying you wont be a mans slave (whatever that means?) You did nt explain for some reason. Never said your age either, lol. Is that fair?

 

[MA2444]

I didn't intend to imply that women couldn't protect themselves. I am not arguing that men should protect women because they can't protect themselves. My argument is that keeping wives, daughters and sisters safe and secure is the God-given role of men. And when men don't act as they should, women will do the job themselves, which is contrary to their nature. Child rearing is virtually impossible for women who, by necessity, are required to be both the man and the woman in the family.

Amen Brother. This man speaks facts.

My experience with women who learn to shoot guns are usually a better shot than their husbands are! But being able to protect yourself skills does take a bit of time. The guns are the easy part. Go shoot 5000 rounds at the range and you will be a deadly shot. But the mindset of survival is usually not something that women aspire to do past a certain extent. They just dont have time, we had fun shooting today but dinner still needs cooked. And that's a valid point but it also expresses why the women should not be in charge of their own security if they can at all help it. Let the men handle it, stay in this room with this gun and no one comes in...That's it. Men think eat live and breath that stuff and never stop. Because it's interesting and we do know our role in life.

 

[MA2444]

Your implication is that women first cannot protect themselves.

I'll say this, having a gun is 90% of the gunfight. Skill, tactics and all that are way down in 2nd place. Have a Gun First.

But the average woman dont know anything about tactics or survivig a sudden active shooter incident. Most women even if they own a gun they dont even know how to clean it. What caliber is that again?

But the same little girl is a Wonderful cook and that's what she does best. She needs a protector, a man. Not an emasculated man, a real man.

Well honey, I can't protect you because you wouldnt let me buy a gun. (That's the man's fault!) When this country goes into war probably before the end of this year...All of a sudden, most women are going to hand those reins of control right back to the man, and he cant let her down!

And I didnt.

Feminism will be oh yeah I remember that, lol once the war starts. She's going to scream, Protect us and Feed us!

It's peace time right now so women have the reins, and pocketbooks! But that can change overnight. So let be wise as serpents and gentle as doves.

 

[MA2444]

Crickets, lol.

 

[CadyandZoe]

Amen Brother. This man speaks facts.

My experience with women who learn to shoot guns are usually a better shot than their husbands are! But being able to protect yourself skills does take a bit of time. The guns are the easy part. Go shoot 5000 rounds at the range and you will be a deadly shot. But the mindset of survival is usually not something that women aspire to do past a certain extent. They just dont have time, we had fun shooting today but dinner still needs cooked. And that's a valid point but it also expresses why the women should not be in charge of their own security if they can at all help it. Let the men handle it, stay in this room with this gun and no one comes in...That's it. Men think eat live and breath that stuff and never stop. Because it's interesting and we do know our role in life.

I recently researched the term "toxic masculinity" and discovered that it often focuses on the negative aspects of masculine risk-taking, such as heavy drinking, reckless driving, and avoiding medical care. However, it's important to note that there are also positive risky behaviors stemming from traits like bravery and courage, which can be beneficial.

Remember when the women and children were put on the lifeboats first?

 

[MA2444]

I recently researched the term "toxic masculinity" and discovered that it often focuses on the negative aspects of masculine risk-taking, such as heavy drinking, reckless driving, and avoiding medical care. However, it's important to note that there are also positive risky behaviors stemming from traits like bravery and courage, which can be beneficial.

Remember when the women and children were put on the lifeboats first?

I sure do and it wasnt really that long ago. When I was young to meet a girl youhad to have an introduction by someone who knows her. That's very old school at this point, lol.

When I heard them starting to use the term toxic masculinity, I didnt believe it. I still dont. There are toxic people, but not based on his masculinity. If toxic masculinity is a real thing then so is toxic femininity. So we're back at toxic people again.

I mean what part of a man's masculinity is considered toxic? Is it that he sets boundries for his girl? Is it the hey honey go make me a sandwich? That's....laughable.

 

[CadyandZoe]

I sure do and it wasnt really that long ago. When I was young to meet a girl youhad to have an introduction by someone who knows her. That's very old school at this point, lol.

When I heard them starting to use the term toxic masculinity, I didnt believe it. I still dont. There are toxic people, but not based on his masculinity. If toxic masculinity is a real thing then so is toxic femininity. So we're back at toxic people again.

I mean what part of a man's masculinity is considered toxic? Is it that he sets boundries for his girl? Is it the hey honey go make me a sandwich? That's....laughable.

Yes. :)
Remember what our apostle Paul said concerning the relationship between hatred of the truth and taking pleasure in wickedness?

2 Thessalonians 11-12 For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12 in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.

I can only imagine the sorts of wickedness that might be behind the denial of male-female differences.

 

[Wynona]

I haven't read everything but I deeply appreciate that discussion on this topic is ongoing, despite not being available always to add to things. Thank you!