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[HisLife]

No, I don't think so. Would you care to provide a link to that post, if it exists?

You said in Post #1292 "So I am undecided as to whether He died for all future sins."

The Gospel Is Clear Jesus Died for your Sins You should Believe it

So, if I love God the way I'm supposed to i don't understand the basic concepts of Christianity?

I say to you verily that the exact opposite is true; for we come to love the Lord because of understanding the basic concepts of Christianity.

Isaiah 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

God Is Holy And Righteous, Man Is fallen, Only Jesus Can Bridge that Gap, A mediator is Needed

It seems to me that you are judging out of hand and the reality is that there is a beam in your own eye; you have three fingers pointing back at you.

When Was the last time I boasted how righteous I am? I go on your words And you Raise yourself up, Its pride plain and simple, I take the plank out of my own eye and say oh wretched man that I am

Romans 7 who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

No, the flesh has nothing to do with freedom and victory over sins. We have victory because we walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit (Romans 8:4).

But you still Have Flesh So it has everything to do with it, In the Flesh Dwells No Good thing, We have victory through Jesus That's how it is Fulfilled

 

[BloodBought 1953]

We fulfill the dietary requirement on behalf of those whose consciences would be affected if we were to indulge in the breaking of the food laws.

1Co 8:8, But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.

Rom 15:1, We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.
Rom 15:2, Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification.

God care as much about what you eat as he cares about a Tattoo.....don’t bore him with such matters .... we are-Under Grace....not Law...when will you ever “ get” it....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

You are absolutely correct. God's promises are sacrosanct. Totally 100% trustworthy. If you come to Him through faith and also to His mercy and grace, you will be saved. God will keep His word.
But in the process of keeping His promises to you, does He take away your free will? Can you choose to go down a different path through sin? It may begin as a small seeming innocuous sin, like for example spending more time paying attention to the pretty neighbor than your wife. Such attention may be fun and enjoyable, and you may at first have no lustful intentions. It was just " innocent" fun. But then your feelings changed. The more time you spend, the more intimate you got. All of a sudden you've stepped over the line. You know you've stepped over the line, your wife knows because she's beginning to react unavoidably, you then have a choice. You may love Jesus... Go to church every Sunday... Read your Bible often... Pray with your children... Want to be saved even at this stage... But you still have a choice. And your choice will decide your future. The Bible says to run away from even the appearance of evil. But you are having such fun. And she's so pretty. She's also smart. And she really likes you. And you start to reason with yourself... And the wrong choice you make of your own free will turns you to a path that eventually takes you away from God altogether. You don't consciously decide you no longer want to be saved... You do decide that sin is preferable to righteousness. And at that moment, God can no longer keep His promise... Because that promise was never unconditional.
If you want to live the life of the Saved, you must refuse constantly not to live the life of the lost when temptation arises. A fall from grace isn't the result of just one offense. It is the choice to continue down a path of what you know is sinful behavior once it has been revealed to you be the holy Spirit. Your resistance to the holy Spirit in such a situation is blasphemy... The sin is unpardonable.

Wow.....and you really started out so well....and then you start “ Condemning” those who can “NEVER come under Condemnation”
Why do you think God set up His “Chastisement Program “ For His Saved, Errant and Foolish Children ?

 

[HisLife]

God care as much about what you eat as he cares about a Tattoo.....don’t bore him with such matters .... we are-Under Grace....not Law...when will you ever “ get” it....

Even Bacon? What about Bacon For Breakfast, And Tattoos You mean Those temporary Stick on ones Right?

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Except the 4th Commandment. Your third grade teacher taught you to remember the Sabbath. But the pupils reason among themselves and decides that the actual day is no longer holy, that the teacher is wrong.

The only “Sabbath” or R E S T that God cares about in this Age Of Grace is this: are you “ RESTING” in Paul’s Gospel Of Grace Plus Nothing for your Salvation? If you are “ worrying” about your Salvation, you are not Resting .....you simply don’t Believe the Gospel That “ could” have Saved you....
God declares in Heb. 3 and 4 that if you are not Resting in the Gospel....you are guilty of UNBELIEF ! Chances are, you never heard that in Church.You are hearing it now.Serious stuff, friends!

 

[BloodBought 1953]

It's all just amusing and disgusting for you, eh? I hope we become fit enough for discussion with someone, if we're as deceived as you say we are.

And you are ......

 

[BloodBought 1953]

But I rarely see scripture quotes in your long winded soapbox rantings.

I don’t provide chapter and verse for many things because they SHOULD be obvious to even the “ Casual” Bible reader ....
If I ever post “ ANYTHING “ in here that you think I fail to back up with Scriptre or can NOT back up with Chapter and Verse......let me know immediately.....I will see that it is provided.... I can do it. EVERY TIME....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

in your long winded soapbox rantings.

You got me there.....my post are 90% of the time much longer than I intend them to be....I m quite “ windy” at times.....God and I are-Working on that .....please be patient

 

[justbyfaith]

I notice you yet again quote from the Old Testament...

The Old Testament was the only scriptures that the New Testament church even had...

2Ti 3:16, All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17, That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

You said in Post #1292 "So I am undecided as to whether He died for all future sins."

The Gospel Is Clear Jesus Died for your Sins You should Believe it

I did not say that I don't believe in Jesus. Those are your words.

When Was the last time I boasted how righteous I am? I go on your words And you Raise yourself up, Its pride plain and simple, I take the plank out of my own eye and say oh wretched man that I am

Romans 7 who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

So, you are discontented with a lifestyle of sinning?

Then the doctrine of entire sanctification should sound in your ears as the good news that it really is.

But you still Have Flesh So it has everything to do with it, In the Flesh Dwells No Good thing,

See Romans 6:6 (kjv) and Colossians 2:11 (kjv).

Here:

Rom 6:6, Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Col 2:11, In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

Consider also that the adoption is defined as the redemption of the body (Romans 8:23). Does this happen before we receive our glorified bodies or at the time that we do?

Gal 4:5, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Gal 4:6, And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
Gal 4:7, Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

No doubt about it, we are adopted sons; we have received the redemption of our body (some of us have, anyway).

Romans 8:24-25 would then be qualified by Hebrews 11:1 (kjv)....so that the substance of and the evidence of what we hope for and do not see...the redemption of our body...is given to us by faith. We have the substance of and the evidence of a redeemed body, even if we do not yet have a redeemed body.

 

[Brakelite]

I liked your line so much I wanted to use it Sorry...The scripture didn't relate to the context of the discussion, Micciah Thinks He is without Sin, He thinks he can even love God with all his heart body mind and strength at every moment of every day...Absolutely Crazy stuff I found this on Gotquestions today

In addition, we have commands that we know we never keep, much less on a daily basis. For instance, who can claim to love God with all his heart, mind and soul every moment of every day? No one.

Well I found one, And you Back These guys up

Actually, I claim to love God with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength. I say that without embarrassment or shame. Such does not make me perfect. But it does cast out all fear. All fear of being condemned when I confess my weakness and failures. All fear of not being helped when needed. All fear of concern for tomorrow. I have seen other Christians claim they don't fear the above, even in this thread. I suggest that if their confidence is not based on total love and complete constant trust in their Savior, then their confidence is based on presumption.
Jesus said, "if you love Me, keep My Commandments." Are you suggesting He was deceiving you... That both loving and obeying are impossible?

 

[HisLife]

Actually, I claim to love God with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength. I say that without embarrassment or shame. Such does not make me perfect. But it does cast out all fear. All fear of being condemned when I confess my weakness and failures. All fear of not being helped when needed. All fear of concern for tomorrow. I have seen other Christians claim they don't fear the above, even in this thread. I suggest that if their confidence is not based on total love and complete constant trust in their Savior, then their confidence is based on presumption.
Jesus said, "if you love Me, keep My Commandments." Are you suggesting He was deceiving you... That both loving and obeying are impossible?

That's Fine just Makes you a liar, if you love Jesus, keep His Commandments

 

[BloodBought 1953]

By looking forward to Christ's sacrifice which was predicted by prophecy (for the first time in Genesis 3:15).

EXCELLENT ANSWER !!!!
There could be Hope for you yet! Lol......

You get SO MUCH right! But then.........you won’t abandon your misunderstandings in regard to “ Lucky Repentance” and Heb 10....
Your Clinging to your Additions to the Gospel make you a Candidate for one who is “ Fallen from Grace”—— like 90% of the Pretend Church World is ( you are FAR from being alone)
Your Failure to REST in the Gospel Of Grace causes your very Salvation to be in jeopardy ....God says in Heb. If you are-not RESTING in Paul’s Gospel ( the one you will be JUDGED by! ) you are guilty of disobedience and UNBELIEF.....
I pray for you....you need to take the-final leap of faith—-“ Let go and let God”......

 

[Brakelite]

Wow.....and you really started out so well....and then you start “ Condemning” those who can “NEVER come under Condemnation”
Why do you think God set up His “Chastisement Program “ For His Saved, Errant and Foolish Children ?

Right. Now we're getting down to the nitty gritty. According to your philosophy someone who chooses to commit adultery and does not repent, despite the promptings of the holy Spirit, does not come under condemnation because you believe they are still "in Christ Jesus". Have you not read,
KJV Isaiah 59:1-2
1 Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:
2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

Iniquity in context is not just a one off sin. God doesn't leave us the moment we offend. But we separate ourselves from Him when we stop believing in His power to save. When we proclaim that sin in all its forms cannot be overcome. The Satan is more powerful than the Spirit of God. That the flesh can never die and be born again into a new creature.
You (plural) who continue to profess your lack of faith in the the reason for Christ's coming, (to save His people from their sins) will indeed continue to sin till the day you die... You will get what you believe for. Your faith will be rewarded. And you will die in your sins.

 

[justbyfaith]

EXCELLENT ANSWER !!!!
There could be Hope for you yet! Lol......

You get SO MUCH right! But then.........you won’t abandon your misunderstandings in regard to “ Lucky Repentance” and Heb 10....
Your Clinging to your Additions to the Gospel make you a Candidate for one who is “ Fallen from Grace”—— like 90% of the Pretend Church World is ( you are FAR from being alone)
Your Failure to REST in the Gospel Of Grace causes your very Salvation to be in jeopardy ....God says in Heb. If you are-not RESTING in Paul’s Gospel ( the one you will be JUDGED by! ) you are guilty of disobedience and UNBELIEF.....
I pray for you....you need to take the-final leap of faith—-“ Let go and let God”......

I'm afraid that you are asking me to reject certain scriptures that I have only just begun to apprehend in my life.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

I'm afraid that you are asking me to reject certain scriptures that I have only just begun to apprehend in my life.

That is fine.....don't take “ My” Word for ANYTHING .....don’t go against your “ Conscience”.....Ask Jesus to lead and guide You to the Scriptures that you need to see and understand .....as I have been doing for 40 years....May God bless BOTH of us in our understanding of His Word....

 

[HisLife]

I did not say that I don't believe in Jesus. Those are your words.

Lol you cut me off Mid Sentence And quoted me out of context it's not the first time what a Dodgey Guy, And you ignore What I really Said even after I Showed what you said, I think it's your Dodging tactic, You are faking it, what a waste of time you are

Here is the full context

Me-Friend it was only yesterday you told me you didn't Believe
it was all Sin

You-No, I don't think so. Would you care to provide a link to that post, if it exists?

Me-You said in Post #1292 "So I am undecided as to whether He died for all future sins."

The Gospel Is Clear Jesus Died for your Sins You should Believe it

You-I did not say that I don't believe in Jesus. Those are your words.

You Cut the "It was all sin" to Say I said you Didnt Believe in Jesus, Why did you do that

Why did you cut me off mid-sentence and say i said, Friend it was only yesterday you told me you didn't Believe, Was It because I proved it, so its your dodging tactic

 

[farouk]

And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. (Revelation 13:8)

How do you think OT believers were saved?

Hebrews 11.13: "These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth."

 

[BarneyFife]

EXCELLENT ANSWER !!!!
There could be Hope for you yet! Lol......

You get SO MUCH right! But then.........you won’t abandon your misunderstandings in regard to “ Lucky Repentance” and Heb 10....
Your Clinging to your Additions to the Gospel make you a Candidate for one who is “ Fallen from Grace”—— like 90% of the Pretend Church World is ( you are FAR from being alone)
Your Failure to REST in the Gospel Of Grace causes your very Salvation to be in jeopardy ....God says in Heb. If you are-not RESTING in Paul’s Gospel ( the one you will be JUDGED by! ) you are guilty of disobedience and UNBELIEF.....
I pray for you....you need to take the-final leap of faith—-“ Let go and let God”......

That is fine.....don't take “ My” Word for ANYTHING .....don’t go against your “ Conscience”.....Ask Jesus to lead and guide You to the Scriptures that you need to see and understand .....as I have been doing for 40 years....May God bless BOTH of us in our understanding of His Word....

I've only been studying the Bible for 49 years. It looks like I may never get to your level of enlightment.

 

[Brakelite]

That's Fine just Makes you a liar, if you love Jesus, keep His Commandments

The scriptures declare that the power of God is available to all who would live in righteousness. It's your choice

 

[BarneyFife]

It points to Jesus And Why We Need Jesus, If only you really Believed 1 john 1:7 Friend it was only yesterday you told me you didn't Believe
it was all Sin



So The Verse Remains intact you know it, What are you trying to acheive



Yes absolutely Delusional Crazy, We Love God because he first loved us, Maybe study the context Of Romans 5:5, We don't Love God with all the Honour He deserves and is worthy of All Times If you do I seriously Dont Think you know the basic concepts Of Christianity...Seriously



Only God Knows the Heart, But from the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks, And you Guys are full of Pride And love for yourself its clear,its all about how perfect or close to perfect you think you are, Even to the point you Try Claim In your Flesh you have stopped sinning, But scripture says The Gospel is hid to them that are lost Because they are Blinded by the god of this World, The battle we have to deal with

Yeah, it's "us and them." Eh?