Simple prophecy: Churches gonna be hot, churches gonna be cold (which is yours?) Discuss!

[Gottservant]

It makes sense to want to be doubly cold, not just cold for the sake of it.

 

[Gottservant]

Churches will be hot and cold, throughout your life, it makes sense to give it some attention!

 

[Gottservant]

The interesting thing is that the hot or cold issue applies to "nations", as well.

I would say America is a hot nation; I would say England is a cold nation.

From there you can prophecy much more easily, because Churches in different nations are going to be influenced by the temperature of the character of those nations - there are going to be hotter Churches in America, colder Churches in England.

Can you see how the Lord plays dominoes with hot or cold choices?

 

[Gottservant]

Something I have learned just now, about cold Churches, is that there are degrees of cold.

A cold Church might be cold at the door, but not much colder within - whereas a greatly cold Church might cold at the door, and then colder and colder, the further in you go.

The point is, that it should be a mindset, that you focus on the coldness of God and praise Him out of a stillness of spirit (that comes from being cold).

 

[Gottservant]

Feel free to spruik hot churches, if you want.

I am just focusing on cold because I want to focus on cold prophecy (for the most part).

A cold Church, with cold prophecy, has a cold strength to a greatly cold degree.

 

[Jay Ross]

A cold Church, with cold prophecy, has a cold strength to a greatly cold degree.

And a runny nose from the cold

 

[Gottservant]

It stands to reason that if you can prophecy that Churches will be "hot" or "cold", you should be able to prophecy how?

Is your Church greatly cold? Like a cold wind? Or a cold mountaintop?

 

[Gottservant]

The important thing to note here, is that how hot or cold churches become is a prediction, but that they will be hot or cold is a prophecy.

If you can learn this, you can learn almost anything.

 

[Davy]

Hi there!

So from a simple reading of Jesus' prompting, that He will spew out the lukewarm, we can deduce that Churches in future, are going to be either hot or cold. This makes sense, because we are able to plan around our expectation of one or the other. Not half-hearted plans, but plans that truly grasp the intensity of their relationship with Christ. This is interesting, because if we commit for life (at the very least the good life - 70 years) we are able to interpret other things in our life, from the hot or cold perspective. There is power in this, the hotter or colder we get, because our lives start to work around, what our attitude to things in life have become.

The Devil is lukewarm, to put it bluntly. We have a reason to resist him in a hot or cold way. Thus our way will be brought to mind, as we struggle to settle with the Devil on the way. Ultimately he will not have the strength to do both and will flee (as the Bible promises he will do, if we resist him). In turn, this means we can help other people who settle for being lukewarm, by prompting them in the way that Jesus did. It may take a number of prompts, but if our focus is unwavering in life (at least becoming more unwavering) then ultimately the difference we have set out will have an effect. In principle we will be saved together.

The gifts of the Spirit then (the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control - letters) have hot and cold expressions. You can have hot love and cold love; hot joy and cold joy; and so on and so forth. The power of this, is that the truth of Christ's prompting, comes to be real to you, to have a real effect. Sometimes Jesus will be hot in response to a particular thing, at other times hot in general; or cold in response to a particular thing and gradually more and more cold. This is the effect of dealing with principalities and powers, as they are to Jesus. Jesus empowers us, to endure the heat to get to the cold, and to magnify the cold when the cold is cold - if you want to embrace the things of the spirit in a cold way (as I do). Heat can get hot, but only as much as there is fuel (that is why I prefer cold).

So tap in to this power, and make up your mind, whether you are hot or cold, whether your Church is hot or cold. You can do this! You will start to realise that Jesus meant what He said and why. It will save you, not to try to be hot for people that are lukewarm, not to try to be cold in a way that only becomes heat. It will make sense, it will come together, and it will last for the good life, if you believe it (the good life especially, 70 years, in a hot or cold way) - trust God to give you cold, or if not cold then hot. Things in your life will grow weak and die, but your faith will flourish - so you can do all things through Christ who strengthens you (Paul, from memory).

I hope you commit to hot or cold, today!

God bless.

No need to make a whole 'doctrine' out of that.

Jesus showed simply in Revelation 2 and 3 which kind of Churches He approves of, and which ones He does not. Five out of the Seven Churches in Asia (Minor) He had rebuke for, so what we are to do instead of concentrating on His 'lukewarm' idea, which is just a pointer... to those 7 Messages, we should actually be teaching what He rebuked 5 of the Churches for, and why He had NO rebuke for only 2 of those Churches.

Do you know... then, the difference between those 5 He rebuked, vs. the 2 He had no rebuke for?

 

[Gottservant]

I suppose I should be praying that my Church get colder.

That's a good way to tell, if you really are as cold as you say you are!

 

[Gottservant]

I think what this ultimately means is that either you are going to die "hot" or you are going to die "cold"!

What a future?

 

[Gottservant]

Interestingly enough, Churches in Heaven will be hot or cold too (from now to eternity)

 

[Gottservant]

My prediction is that although there will be more colder churches (simply because the love of many grows cold - gospels, from memory), there will be many revivals of hot churches in different places - that's how I understand it from a cold church believer's perspective.

 

[Gottservant]

The world itself oscillates between happy hot and sad hot, happy cold and sad cold. Jesus said people were like "children sitting in the marketplace saying 'we played the flute and you did not dance, we mourned and you did not mourn with us" (gospels, from memory). That is an example of the difference in the world, which (as a difference) could be expressed in faith - that is, as hot or cold.

So if the world is happy but cold, it will enjoy the cold, but if the world is happy but hot, it will enjoy the heat. So also, if the world is sad but cold, it will seek comfort in cold and if the world is sad but hot, it will be angry at being sad.

This continues throughout life. It is important to understand, that the world and the faith will be going through these cycles, while there is still time.

 

[Gottservant]

I think what we can deduce between hot and cold Churches is that, cold Churches are going to reach lower highs, but for a longer time; while hot Churches are going to be stronger, but in need of works to exercise that strength.

Remember the Devil roams about seeking whom he may devour (letters, from memory); the kind of Church you are in, are irrelevant to him. As such, the Devil is always going to be confused and blown about, by the strength of your faith, in your Church.

It's not just a gimmick, this has real consequences. (If you resist the Devil in God, he will flee - letters, from memory).

 

[Gottservant]

I think what is interesting is that Hot churches are going to be more or less hot, but Cold churches are going to be more and more cold.

That's the way hot and cold works - they are not permanently fixed states.

The Churches are supposed to be dynamic!

 

[TribulationSigns]

I see that many here do not understand what Christ talked about here:

Revelation 3:15-16

• "I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
• So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."

I am still waiting to see if anyone finally understands and explains biblically why God wants our work to be cold or hot. What works is that? What does this mean to you? I will respond and explain later if someone has not yet come up with a biblical understanding of Revelation 3:15-16.

 

[Gottservant]

I see that many here do not understand what Christ talked about here:

Revelation 3:15-16

• "I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
• So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."

I am still waiting to see if anyone finally understands and explains biblically why God wants our work to be cold or hot. What works is that? What does this mean to you? I will respond and explain later if someone has not yet come up with a biblical understanding of Revelation 3:15-16.

When I talk about hot and cold, I am trying to remind people that they have a choice.

What will happen if we get to the end of our life (on this Earth) and are still not hot or cold?

 

[TribulationSigns]

When I talk about hot and cold, I am trying to remind people that they have a choice.

Choice?? No, Jesus wants to see our work either hot or cold. Exactly what did He mean by that?

What will happen if we get to the end of our life (on this Earth) and are still not hot or cold?

You have no clue what the verses talked about. This has nothing to do with our life or the afterlife. It is about OUR WORK on Earth FOR CHRIST'S kingdom that needs to be either hot or cold. Do you even know what these are?

 

[Gottservant]

Choice?? No, Jesus wants to see our work either hot or cold. Exactly what did He mean by that?


You have no clue what the verses talked about. This has nothing to do with our life or the afterlife. It is about OUR WORK on Earth FOR CHRIST'S kingdom that needs to be either hot or cold. Do you even know what these are?

Ok well I have done work for God and His Kingdom and it has never occurred to me that it might be lukewarm - you're right that works also must be hot or cold, but I think you are being heavy handed suggesting that I should have thought of that already?

I repent. My works should have been colder (but that's exactly why I started this thread?)