Run AWAY from Calvinism!

[Ritajanice]

A:Billy Graham!​

Yes, the Bible’s command to fear God and yet also love Him may seem like a contradiction at first—but once you understand what the Bible actually means, the contradiction goes away.
Let me explain. It’s true that the Bible repeatedly tells us to fear God: “Let all the earth fear the Lord; let all the people of the world revere him” (Psalm 33:8). But what does it mean by “fear”? We usually fear something (such as a vicious dog or a violent storm) when we expect it to harm us. In other words, we fear something that has no concern for us, and is a source of constant danger to us.
But that isn’t what God is like! God created us, and He also loves us—and the proof is that He sent His only Son into the world to die for our sins. Would He have done this if He hated us? No, of course not. The Bible says, “This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins” (1 John 4:10). Stop right now and thank God for loving you and sending His Son to die for you.
To fear God is not to shrink back from Him in terror. To fear God is to have a deep reverence for Him, and to stand in awe at His holiness and majesty and power and love. Only then will we love and serve and worship Him as we should.

 

[Behold]

Ephesians 2:8
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

Yes, the GRACE is the GIFT............not the Faith. And that Grace of God, is not of yourselves..

See, Gods Grace is why we are forgiven... and that is not of us......as we can earn it. its the GIFT of Salvation.. or as your verse says.. its the "GIFT of God".

John 1
who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

Keep them coming Carl... perfect.


Yes, we are not born of Water, or of the flesh... if we are born of GOD..

Because....."God is A Spirit" and we are born of the HOLY Spirit....."born of GOD".. .who is "A Spirit".. "the Holy Spirit".

 

[Behold]

Isaiah 11
Then a shoot will spring from the stem of Jesse,

Thank you for all these random disconnected verses you keep posting @Carl Emerson , regarding your enthusiasm to continue to prove you dont understand what you are trying to teach.

I enjoy teaching the NT...


Jesus is the Root of Jesse (linage) "Son of David" also.

And a branch from his roots will bear fruit.

You have to abide In Jesus, as a Branch... to bear spiritual fruit

And to "abide" is to be born again "in Christ".

2 The Spirit of the Lord will rest on Him,]]]

And John saw the Spirit like a Dove descend and abide on Jesus

This really happened.

The spirit of wisdom and understanding,

"IN Christ are found all the Treasures of Wisdom and Knowledge"

The spirit of counsel and strength,

Jesus "who is THAT Spirit".... is certainly a mighty counselor, and the Prince of Peace.. Hes also Salvation and Eternal life

The spirit of knowledge

This can be many things..

So, in the context of Salvation.. the person hears the Gospel, and the Holy Spirit revelation brings them to "the knowledge of the Truth"

And now they KNOW its True.

But.. will they believe?.... will they place their faith in Christ ????.....that is up to them.

and the fear of the Lord.

Hummm.

"Its a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God"

or... "in fear and Trembling" you work out your salvation, by learning exactly who you are "in Christ" according to God's perspective and not your own.

Fear of the Lord is also to recognize His Power, His Status, ect.

 

[Ritajanice]

[8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [9] Not of works, lest any man should boast. [10] For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

People also ask
How is faith a gift from God?
Faith is graciously given to believers by God himself. As a divine gift, faith is neither transient nor impotent. It has an abiding quality that guarantees that it will endure to the end. The familiar words of Habakkuk 2:4, “The righteous will live by his faith” (cf

 

[Carl Emerson]

Yes, the GRACE is the GIFT............not the Faith. And that Grace of God, is not of yourselves..

Hebrews 12:2
fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

1 Corinthians 12:9
to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit,

 

[Ritajanice]

What is the gift of God in Ephesians 2/8?
It refers to the whole of salvation. All of it is a gift of God—repentance, faith, salvation.

 

[David in NJ]

I have read enough to know Calvin and his teachings are wrong...for example, you can be born again BEFORE you believe...twisting and wresting the Holy writ...if I could i would remove all posts of the Reformers and THEIR writings..almost like the Mohammed and his Quran
Guess I was on a wrong path for two years.
The Lord knows my heart
God bless
J.

SIMPLE FIX

Just ignore all writings and focus on SOLA SCRIPTURA and the LORD

Anyone who does this consistently, will experience a clear mind and more fluid understanding in the Scriptures by the Holy Spirit.

We all should be running away from every teaching/doctrine that opposes:
A.) the words of CHRIST
B.) the words of the Apostles
C.) the words of the OT prophets

This requires:
a.) Daily reading/praying/meditating on the Word
b.) Researching the scriptures using comparison unto itself
c.) Careful listening and when listening, always referencing what you heard or read back to the Scriptures whereby the Scriptures make the corrections when necessary.

***IMPORTANT*** = the sin/sickness/spiritual disease of "respect of persons" will ALWAYS cloud/corrupt True Judgement

 

[Behold]

Hebrews 12:2
fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith,

Jesus is the author of our faith, in the sense that our Faith is IN HIM..

"faith IN Christ" who is the "only WAY to the Father".. this is the author, that we believe..

See your verse says its OUR Faith... and Jesus "authors" it, (authorizes it)... by being the one we believe in...

God is actually the Prime author, as God is the One who created "Grace through Faith" that is the authorizing of our Salvation.

Jesus perfects it, how?

Like this...>>>Paul teaches....>>"As many as be Perfect"..

Notice "perfector" and "be perfect"?

Its the same idea......because its the same thing..

The perfecting of your faith, is to walk in THE Spirit, in THE Mind of Christ.

And this is to have God's perspective, regarding who the born again have become "in Christ".

When a believers faith is broken, they are "fallen from Grace" and have lost understanding of REAL FAITH in Christ.

who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Yes, Jesus is now seated because the work is finished, and now He is in the resting position... seated.

Before He finished His Sacrifice on the Cross, that is the "work" He completed..... He first asked God if He could be released from it.

So, if it was not possible for Jesus to be released from it, then Jesus would not have asked..
And that is why He said.>>>"Not My Will....... but YOUR's Father i have chosen to do"..

See...Reader.... the LOVE of God, is that God sent His only Begotten to Die for the sin of the world, and the Love of Jesus is that He "laid Hid life down".. .willingly, by CHOICE... Free will.

1 Corinthians 12:9
to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit,

Your verse......these are a part of what Paul teaches as the 9 Spiritual Gifts that are given to the born again, believers.

God does not give these 9 Spiritual Gifts, to the unbelievers, who are not Christians.

There is a member on the Forum, who is very confused about this for months and months..... ..so, try not to be confused about it any longer @Carl Emerson

 

[Carl Emerson]

Jesus is the author of our faith, in the sense that our Faith is IN HIM..

"faith IN Christ" who is the "only WAY to the Father".. this is the author, that we believe..

See your verse says its OUR Faith... and Jesus "authors" it, (authorizes it)... by being the one we believe in...

God is actually the Prime author, as God is the One who created "Grace through Faith" that is the authorizing of our Salvation.

Jesus perfects it, how?

Like this...>>>Paul teaches....>>"As many as be Perfect"..

Notice "perfector" and "be perfect"?

Its the same idea......because its the same thing..

The perfecting of your faith, is to walk in THE Spirit, in THE Mind of Christ.

And this is to have God's perspective, regarding who the born again have become "in Christ".

When a believers faith is broken, they are "fallen from Grace" and have lost understanding of REAL FAITH in Christ.




Yes, Jesus is now seated because the work is finished, and now He is in the resting position... seated.

Before He finished His Sacrifice on the Cross, that is the "work" He completed..... He first asked God if He could be released from it.

So, if it was not possible for Jesus to be released from it, then Jesus would not have asked..
And that is why He said.>>>"Not My Will....... but YOUR's Father i have chosen to do"..

See...Reader.... the LOVE of God, is that God sent His only Begotten to Die for the sin of the world, and the Love of Jesus is that He "laid Hid life down".. .willingly, by CHOICE... Free will.




Your verse......these are a part of what Paul teaches as the 9 Spiritual Gifts that are given to the born again, believers.

God does not give these 9 Spiritual Gifts, to the unbelievers, who are not Christians.

There is a member on the Forum, who is very confused about this for months and months..... ..so, try not to be confused about it any longer @Carl Emerson

I present scripture first and theology second...

I leave you to argue with the Author, the originator of our faith.

 

[Behold]

I present scripture first and theology second...

You only present (cut and paste) Scripture, because you cant teach it.
So, like one of those, you post verses, and go to the next post., and do it again, an in your mind.. you are thinking.>>"gotcha".
Yet you got nothing.
You just posted verses.
Anyone can do that, @Carl Emerson .
Even you.

I leave you to argue with the Author, the originator of our faith.

Ive only presented what is wrong with Hyper-Calvinism, that is "authoring" your Posts..

The Holy Spirit, who is in me, who is in all the Born again.... is the revealer of all truth...

This is JESUS.

"CHRIST IN YOU>.. the hope of Glory".. (Glory is Heaven).

 

[Carl Emerson]

You only present (cut and paste) Scripture, because you cant teach it.
So, like one of those, you post verses, and go to the next post., and do it again, an in your mind.. you are thinking.>>"gotcha".
Yet you got nothing.
You just posted verses.
Anyone can do that, @Carl Emerson .
Even you.



Ive only presented what is wrong with Hyper-Calvinism, that is "authoring" your Posts..

The Holy Spirit, who is in me, who is in all the Born again.... is the revealer of all truth...

This is JESUS.

"CHRIST IN YOU>.. the hope of Glory".. (Glory is Heaven).

Again you make false accusations with no knowledge of my service to the Lord.

I have not referenced any website.

I post verses rather than arguing as He can speak for Himself as He watches over His Word.

Ephesians 2:8
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

 

[marks]

Simply stated Calvinistic predestination makes God disengenuous in His open invitations for all to come to Him. There isn't any hidden caveat, let God be true and every man a liar.

Much love!

 

[Behold]

Again you make false accusations with no knowledge of my service to the Lord.

Listen carefully.

The only @Carl Emerson i have known, is the one on this Forum.
Ive talked with you, some.....not that much.
Regarding me and my Threads and Posts, you are mostly an outlier.. a background, occasional comment person, until your Calvinism had you STAND UP for it on this Calvinism THREAD.
Understand?
So, regarding your "service to the Lord"... ive only seen what you are describing, on this Forum.
What you do in Life, i can't see that... @Carl Emerson , so that does not count HERE on the FORUM.

You should be able to understand what im showing you....

So....You are now on a Calvinism Thread, for a while now.... trying to prove Calvinism-Hyper Calvinism, and that is the Fruit im dealing with.. that your faith is producing.
Its for all to see, and that is what i wanted ALL to SEE.

See, im not here, as a disciple of Calvinism..., trying to SELL Calvinism.
You are on a Calvinism Thread. for That reason, as to to try to defend it, is to try to push it, to advance it, to try to SELL IT.

Im AgaInst this Hellish Theology, and you are trying to defend it, to SELL IT.

So, Im not buying, your "fruit" regarding you selling Calvinism- HyperCalvinism.

Believe it.

JESUS is not a Calvinist.

God make CHRISTIANS

Calvin makes CALVINISTs.

 

[Carl Emerson]

JESUS is not a Calvinist.

God make CHRISTIANS

Calvin makes CALVINISTs.

Are you saying I am not a Christian ?

 

[Behold]

Are you saying I am not a Christian ?

Im saying that you just told us that you have "fruit".

I explained to you that what you do in LIFE, as your "christianity".......is not known to me, as i only know you on a Forum, as i explained.

So, HERE, on This Thread.. my "fruit" is that im anti-""doctrines of Devils"", exactly as i am in my ministries in Life, and exactly as i am, in 4 or 5 anti-Calvinism, and anti-HyperCalvinsim, Threads, that ive posted on THIS Forum.

That is my "FRUIT" regarding my behavior, against John Calvin and other Doctrine, connected to Him, that is worse.

Whereas your ""fruit""" it to try to sell Calvinism and Hyper Calvinism, by supporting it, and defending it.. So that is your "FRUIT" on this Forum, on This Thread, and i am not buying it.

Thats what i wrote., and that is what i mean.

God does not make Calvinists.. John Calvin does... as i told you, and as ive stated 50x, on various "anti-Calvin" Threads...

See my "fruit"?

And we see yours., as i stated @Carl Emerson

 

[Carl Emerson]

So posting Scripture is bad fruit ?

Do you really think a demon would inspire this...

Ephesians 2:8
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.

Or dos your theology prevent you from processing the plain text ???

 

[Carl Emerson]

Personally I think that folks often tend to develop their theology to suit their personal faith journey.

For me I had a shipwrecked life and He encountered me like Paul but not so extreme.

After 11 years in rebellion and no hope His still small voice beckoned me to return to my Christian life.

He picked me up and put me back on the rails.

That was the beginning of 7 years prayer and ministry to be made whole again

"Amazing Grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me..."

So it is impossible to attribute my faith to anything but Him.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Simply stated Calvinistic predestination makes God disengenuous in His open invitations for all to come to Him. There isn't any hidden caveat, let God be true and every man a liar.

Much love!

Is believing God has the right to choose one over another making God disingenuous?

Didn't Paul address this argument directly?

Romans 9
6 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel; 7 nor are they all children because they are Abraham’s descendants, but: “through Isaac your descendants will be named.” 8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are regarded as descendants. 9 For this is the word of promise: “At this time I will come, and Sarah shall have a son.” 10 And not only this, but there was Rebekah also, when she had conceived twins by one man, our father Isaac; 11 for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that God’s purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls, 12 it was said to her, “The older will serve the younger.” 13 Just as it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”

14 What shall we say then? There is no injustice with God, is there? May it never be! 15 For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” 16 So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I raised you up, to demonstrate My power in you, and that My name might be proclaimed throughout the whole earth.” 18 So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires.

19 You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who resists His will?” 20 On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, “Why did you make me like this,” will it? 21 Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use? 22 What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction? 23 And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory, 24 even us, whom He also called, not from among Jews only, but also from among Gentiles.

 

[marks]

Is believing God has the right to choose one over another making God disingenuous?

No, of course not. But If I say, everyone is invited to the party! And then I email directions to my 5 closest friends, and refuse to tell anyone else, what is the meaning of my invitation? An empty gesture.

God's words are not vanity!

Didn't Paul address this argument directly?

No, that's not what he was talking about.

Much love!

 

[Carl Emerson]

No, of course not. But If I say, everyone is invited to the party! And then I email directions to my 5 closest friends, and refuse to tell anyone else, what is the meaning of my invitation? An empty gesture.

God's words are not vanity!


No, that's not what he was talking about.

Much love!

Where does it say in Scripture that everyone is invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb ?