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Keiw
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Keiw
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I have studied religions, true God worship history, and the teachings of Jesus and the rest of the bible over and over since 1961-- All 3 back the JW teachers all the way. Where does that leave the rest?
Here are 100% undeniable facts of true God worship history
From Moses on up until this very day, the Israelite religion, teach, serve and worship the Abrahamic God= a single being God named YHWH(Jehovah) thus this is the God taught to Jesus and every bible writer when they attended the Israelite places of worship.
Catholicisms own encyclopedia-The new Catholic encyclopedia, 1967, Vol XIV, Page 299-- The formulation of one God in 3 persons was not established, certainly not assimilated into christian life and its profession of faith prior to the end of the 4th century. Among the apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective--( of God being a trinity)
The council of Constantinople 381 ce- God became a trinity---by satans will.
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Keiw
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The trinities have to mislead to keep from being exposed as false religions. Thats who you believe over facts.
In 1822 a Greek Scholar A.Kneeland translated from the Greek lexicons( trinity translating) the NT. He compared the Greek and English side by side to prove to the world- a god is correct in the last line at John 1:1--19 other translations had it correct, 3 had was divine. All rejected by trinity clergys because that fact exposes them as false religions.
Webers_Home
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FAQ: Why does the Watchtower Society translate the Word in John 1:1 as
god in lower case instead of God in upper case?
REPLY: The Watchtower Society's translation is based upon an imaginary
grammatical technicality.
The common Greek word for "god" is theós (theh'-os). When it's modified by
the little Greek definite article "ho" the Society translates theós in upper
case, viz: in the Society's theological thinking; ho theós pertains to the one
true God, while theós by itself is somewhat flexible, for example John 1:18
and John 20:17 where the Society translates theós in upper case though it
be not modified by ho.
However, according to Dr. Archibald T. Robertson's "Grammar Of The Greek
New Testament", page 767: in regards to nouns in the predicate; the article
is not essential to speech. In other words: when theόs is in the predicate, ho
can be either used, or not used, without making any real difference.
So then; a translator's decision whether to capitalize either of the two theόs
in John 1:1 or not to capitalize them, is entirely arbitrary rather than
dictated by a strict rule of Greek grammar.
Of course the Society prefers that The Word be a lower case god because
that spelling is agreeable with their version of his status; whereas traditional
Christians prefer the upper case because that spelling is agreeable with their
version of The Word's status; while in reality, either spelling is acceptable.
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FAQ: Why does the Watchtower Society translate the Word in John 1:1 as
god in lower case instead of God in upper case?
REPLY: The Watchtower Society's translation is based upon an imaginary
grammatical technicality.
The common Greek word for "god" is theós (theh'-os). When it's modified by
the little Greek definite article "ho" the Society translates theós in upper
case, viz: in the Society's theological thinking; ho theós pertains to the one
true God, while theós by itself is somewhat flexible, for example John 1:18
and John 20:17 where the Society translates theós in upper case though it
be not modified by ho.
However, according to Dr. Archibald T. Robertson's "Grammar Of The Greek
New Testament", page 767: in regards to nouns in the predicate; the article
is not essential to speech. In other words: when theόs is in the predicate, ho
can be either used, or not used, without making any real difference.
So then; a translator's decision whether to capitalize either of the two theόs
in John 1:1 or not to capitalize them, is entirely arbitrary rather than
dictated by a strict rule of Greek grammar.
Of course the Society prefers that The Word be a lower case god because
that spelling is agreeable with their version of his status; whereas traditional
Christians prefer the upper case because that spelling is agreeable with their
version of The Word's status; while in reality, either spelling is acceptable.
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tigger 2
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Absolute proof that you (and most trinitarian scholars) are wrong:
Examining the Trinity: John 1:1c Primer - For Grammatical Rules That Supposedly "Prove" the Trinity
Find any errors in these excerpts from my study of John 1:1c | Christian Forums @ Christianity Board
Webers_Home
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You said "most" trinitarians are wrong? Well; now I'm curious about the few who
aren't.
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You said "most" trinitarians are wrong? Well; now I'm curious about the few who
aren't.
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So what? Are you calling the NWT lies?
John 28 Thomas said to Jesus, "My Lord and my God"!
I don't even know of ONE English Bible that JW's believe!
tigger 2
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The first few paragraphs of my study answer this. The listed trinitarian scholars are correct in admitting the literal translation of John 1:1c. But they are wrong in refusing to accept it as John's intended meaning.
Nevertheless, my study proves the literal translation is the correct one.
Webers_Home
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The only person that has to be convinced of your study's proof is you.
You gotta walk that lonesome valley,
You gotta walk it by yourself.
Nobody here can walk it for you,
You gotta walk it by yourself.
(Woody Guthrie)
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The only person that has to be convinced of your study's proof is you.
You gotta walk that lonesome valley,
You gotta walk it by yourself.
Nobody here can walk it for you,
You gotta walk it by yourself.
(Woody Guthrie)
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tigger 2
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So, you would have refused to look through Galileo's telescope as did the authorities in the story.
The only person that has to be convinced is the one actually searching for truth.
Those refusing to seek truth by merely opening their eyes and seeing what's there are doomed to remain blind.
My study you refuse to look at was an extension of the way noted trinitarian scholars 'studied' John 1:1c.
That is, they found a few examples of constructions they claimed to be parallel to John 1:1c (predicate noun written before its verb).
I found and listed all the constructions parallel to John 1:1c.
They included examples which are uncertain (according to many trinitarian grammarians themselves) as proof for their conclusion and then quoted translations from a few Bibles.
I found, listed, and removed the uncertain examples. Then listed all the proper examples and their translation in trinitarian Bibles.
The result was unanimous.
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Keiw
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Just because someone twists what is actually said has no bearing on it being truth. God disguised many truths in his bible.
If you are speaking to me Brother, it is my fourth --- Hebrew, Yiddish, Cherokee, then Enlglish followed by learning Greek and Latin.
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Keiw
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To keep satan and his angels in spiritual darkness God disguised many truths in his bible-Daniel 12:4-But here in these last days truth has now become abundant. Truth rejected by the darkness.
Do you read your own posts?
"Just because someone twists what is actually said has no bearing on it being truth."
You just described Kingdom Hall doctrine.
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