Praising, thanking God for a Trump win!

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Taken

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Actually, I never spent a day in public school. My comments are a refection of two Ivy League degrees, one in political philosophy, one in law.

Well known historical universities “USED” to carry clout for individuals having attended and received such Degreed certifications…
BUT no longer the case…for people waking up from a generational comatose business as usual case.

From educational institutions highly praised historical PHILOSOPHERS, to Universities teaching Students “how to Adopt” and “use” “philosophical psychobabble methods” FOR teaching students “has BEEN” a long standing generational and “injurious intended divisional hoax and scar” on the American people.

Speaking of “LAW”…. Tariffs ARE expressly within the boundaries of THE Supreme Law of the Land….which IS THE Constitution…Not a Court.



Glory to God,
Taken (certified with a pubic education and for years extended my education by knowing where and using the few Law Libraries (not on College and University campus’) that are treasure troves of INTENT, long before the intent, suggestion, bills, slip laws are published into 50+ volumes of gobblygook “overreaching” oppressive nonsense.
 

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If you really think isolation will work.Usually thats how you control a nation Isolate first look at history..Already talk here of not purchasing any American products there should be a surplus of products from other countries with the heavy tariffs put on them and unable to sell in the USA could bring prices down out side of the USA by not buying American.Got to also slap a tariff on all American made product so they don't sell in our countries price them way up there where no one wants to buy them.Everyone can play this game if its the path chosen.Careful there maybe a huge backlash.The consumer pays the tariff not the country it came from.
 

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What is your solution to the problems that come through the border?
I'm not in possession of all the answers, but I can offer a couple of general suggestions:

There are two general (but not mutually exclusive) categories of immigrants swarming to the Southwest border: those seeking asylum and those seeking economic opportunity. Asylum seekers should be required to stay in Mexico until their cases are heard -- and immediately forfeit all asylum claims if they do not. Job seekers are the more difficult class to deal with. Improving economic opportunities in Latin America would be a good first step. (Tariffs on Mexican goods would undermine this.) Beyond that, employment of illegals, already a crime, is not well enforced in this country. I'd beef that enforcement up, until the message infiltrates all the way to Tiera del Fuego that getting hired in the U.S. as an illegal is a long shot.
 

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Not if the canadian and mexicans do what is required and trump cancels the tariffs.

better yet. It just means more manufactering jobs for americans.
So your solution to bullying Mexico into submission is to butt heads until both sides are concussed and bleeding, hoping they cry uncle first. That's super intelligent.

More manufacturing jobs? No. Demand is elastic, and the higher the price the less will be purchased. Tariffs raise prices not only on the imports but on the American goods that use foreign components -- and more importantly, American sellers will just raise prices once competition has been reduced. Study the history of tariffs, and you will see this effect over and over. (Are you suggesting we also implement price controls???)
 

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If you really think isolation will work.Usually thats how you control a nation Isolate first look at history..Already talk here of not purchasing any American products there should be a surplus of products from other countries with the heavy tariffs put on them and unable to sell in the USA could bring prices down out side of the USA by not buying American.Got to also slap a tariff on all American made product so they don't sell in our countries price them way up there where no one wants to buy them.Everyone can play this game if its the path chosen.Careful there maybe a huge backlash.The consumer pays the tariff not the country it came from.
actually most countries have tarrifs on products purchased from the US. Biden cancelled all the ones we had in place.
 
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So your solution to bullying Mexico into submission is to butt heads until both sides are concussed and bleeding, hoping they cry uncle first. That's super intelligent.
It worked during the first trump administration. and it has worked well in the past..
More manufacturing jobs? No. Demand is elastic, and the higher the price the less will be purchased. Tariffs raise prices not only on the imports but on the American goods that use foreign components -- and more importantly, American sellers will just raise prices once competition has been reduced. Study the history of tariffs, and you will see this effect over and over. (Are you suggesting we also implement price controls???)
Actually, if we made them here. the price would be lower.

do you know anything about supply and demand?
 

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What is your solution to the problems that come through the border?

Never elect another Democrat, as they are the reason the USA is filling up with Illegals.
See, they dont care about them.....and they dont care about Americans, as if they did, they would be concerned to NOT allow in the Rapists, Murderers and Child Molesters, who have that criminal Record.
But the DEMS only want millions of Illegals, so that they can future harvest all their VOTES.
See, they get them in, then get them on Food Stamps, a free place to live, healthcare, and education... to trap them..... so that if they want this to continue....then VOTE FOREVER = for the DEMS who brought you to the FREE Gravy Train... , illegally.
This is all a "we are planning for the future".. by the DEMS...........as they know that 30 million Illegals, are going to make 2 or 3 Babies.. for the FUTURE< that will all Vote DEMOCRATIC for President in the FUTURE...

Do the math.

30 Million Illegals, X 3 Babies each?

That is how you REPLACE American's with ILLEGALS and that is what they are trying to DO.
 
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The Democrat agenda is at its core evil. Possibly even satan induced.
As to what Trump will really do is to be seen. But we have watched Democrat laws and leadership
destroy this country. I am not partisan ever since I was 18 over 40 years ago. But I am not staying a
reg Republican. And will never vote Democrat again.
 

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It worked during the first trump administration. and it has worked well in the past..

Actually, if we made them here. the price would be lower.

do you know anything about supply and demand?
Yes. Rational profit-maximizing suppliers expand or contract output to the point where marginal cost and marginal revenue are equal. Marginal revenue is determined (in the absence of price discrimination) by utility-maximizing consumers in the aggregate determining their willingness to pay at a given price. The market for the product in question reaches equilibrium at that level, and equilibrium will be disturbed when imperfect competition is present..
 

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There are two general (but not mutually exclusive) categories of immigrants swarming to the Southwest border: those seeking asylum and those seeking economic opportunity.
You can't be serious. Dangerous criminals, including convicts, gang members, sex traffickers, and fentanyl dealers are 100% excluded from your analysis?

It must be hard to be so intellectually dishonest all the time. In this case, making an Appeal to Strawman of the arguments FOR a tariff. Honestly, Trump does not want tariffs. He wants the invasion to stop and is establishing a negotiating position. See Art of The Deal.
 

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If God is guiding him to put tariffs on all Canadian and Mexican imports -- as he said today he would do Day 1 (“On January 20th, as one of my many first Executive Orders, I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% Tariff on ALL products coming into the United States, and its ridiculous Open Borders”) -- then God better take a refresher course in Economics.

I can't stress strongly enough how galactically stupid such tariffs would be to our economy. Raising prices for American consumers under the guise of protecting American manufacturing from competition is a ticket to disaster. The booming stock market, currently at record highs without those tariffs, will tank.

That is not exaaactly how that all works.

Without tariffs American manufacturers are undercut by cheaper foreign manufacturer's products, strengthening foreign economies while weakening the American economy. Conversely, tariffs help level the field.

Another advantage that is often overlooked is the benefit to US retailers (my field). Cheaper imports may drive up profits to foreign made products, but drive down the core of name brand American made products, also causing American manufactures to add import lines to their US made lines, effectively an act of omitted competitive failure. Again, conversely, with tariffs American retailers profit equally or greater.

But the measure of putting tariffs on foreign manufactured goods, is not just about economics. It is also about fair trade in a global market, and a bargaining chip on many other issues, including military. The chess board has many pieces.
 

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Yes. Rational profit-maximizing suppliers expand or contract output to the point where marginal cost and marginal revenue are equal. Marginal revenue is determined (in the absence of price discrimination) by utility-maximizing consumers in the aggregate determining their willingness to pay at a given price. The market for the product in question reaches equilibrium at that level, and equilibrium will be disturbed when imperfect competition is present..
The problem is credit. Not tarriffs
If people stop paying such prices. They would not be able to make such prices.
 

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What would you say to those people who prayed for Kamala to win?
 

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What would you say to those people who prayed for Kamala to win?
Why would you pray for her to win? what did she offer you that would make your or anyone elses life better? Why should we trust her? What would she do to protect us from our enemies? The border? the insanity of giving criminals rights while putting your enemy (those who appose you) in jail.

why would a christian do this?
 

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What would you say to those people who prayed for Kamala to win?
What God are you praying to since she advocates against God's word:
  1. You shall not murder (abortion).
  2. Don't move the ancient boundary stone (invasion).
  3. The workers cry out that you have not given their wages (inflation).
 

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Why would you pray for her to win? what did she offer you that would make your or anyone elses life better? Why should we trust her? What would she do to protect us from our enemies? The border? the insanity of giving criminals rights while putting your enemy (those who appose you) in jail.

why would a christian do this?

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Why would you pray for her to win? what did she offer you that would make your or anyone elses life better? Why should we trust her? What would she do to protect us from our enemies? The border? the insanity of giving criminals rights while putting your enemy (those who appose you) in jail.

why would a christian do this?
I only asked this one thing, and then I was also asked. How I should answer now? Should I also respond to them with questions? Anyway, there are also Christians who agree to killing babies due to the agony of the aftermath of being raped.
What God are you praying to since she advocates against God's word:
  1. You shall not murder (abortion).
  2. Don't move the ancient boundary stone (invasion).
  3. The workers cry out that you have not given their wages (inflation).
I may have asked such questions because that's what is happening in the world. People pray for both sides, but that does not mean anything about me praying for her to win.