Paul's Gospel

[David in NJ]

No, I don't think Peter knew any better at the time. Paul concluded - if you feel God called you to preach circumcision then you should go preach circumcision. As for me (Paul) God called me to preach uncircumcision. Peter came to a better understanding of the cross. We can base that on his Epistles, and what he said on Pentecost. Two different messages come out of him. Peter talks about new birth and the seed in his epistles, and so on. But it wasn't until Paul was preaching. He never really took Paul like Paul was to be taken and he says Paul was a hard man to take. Nothing bad on Peter, he grew like any one else. It is there to read.. written. I say things from some of my study through the years.. conversation.. good fellowship with those that I feel had a good understanding.

Paul never told Peter to preach circumcision. The Scripture says that Peter was to preach the SAME Gospel to the 'circumcision' which denotes the Jews according to the flesh, whereas the term 'uncircumcision' denotes the Gentiles according to the flesh BUT the SAME Gospel.

What God has joined together let no man separate - Amen

 

[David in NJ]

it is God (thru the ministry of His angel) who is greeting Mary, and seeking her consent to His salvation thru being the mother of the savior!

A Royal greeting!

Lk 1:28 is the only place in the Bible where such a greeting takes place!
Mary is of the tribe of Judah and the royal house of David the king!

God himself is greeting Mary thru the instrument of the angel Gabriel!

This is a Royal greeting of the queen of heaven and earth! Queen of the angels and saints! Mary is of the house of king David!

In the line of king David the mother of the king is the queen, as Jesus Christ is the king of heaven and earth and the angels and saints so Mary is the queen of the same! Lk 1:32-33

The mother of any king is automatically queen and rules half the kingdom!
The queen mother!

Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.
29 And when she had heard, she was troubled in his word, and thought what manner salutation this was.
30 And the angel said to her, Dread thou not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with God.

Mary is queen in rev 12:1 and heb 4:16
Mother of divine grace who is the throne of divine grace!

Be Forewarned = Perversion of His Word will guarantee your place in the Lake of Fire.

All worshippers of Mary will end up there.

Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.

 

[soul man]

ask her if she remembers “criss Kringle”at Christmas time

“criss kringle” was the practice of giving a Christmas gift without the person knowing who gave it to them, usually done by a girl for a boy, kind of like a secret admirer, oh those days of youthful innocence!

I'll ask her.

 

[soul man]

Be Forewarned = Perversion of His Word will guarantee your place in the Lake of Fire.

Heaven may be empty! We may have to start over.

 

[David in NJ]

Heaven may be empty! We may have to start over.

We follow the Straight Path which leads to LIFE = Deut 4:1-2 , Proverbs 30:5-6 , Revelation 22:18-19

 

[David in NJ]

Heaven may be empty! We may have to start over.

The LORD was going to do that with Moses and certainly would have had not Moses pleaded for Mercy on behalf of the people.

“Then the Lord said to me, ‘Arise, go down quickly from here, for your people whom you brought out of Egypt have acted corruptly; they have quickly turned aside from the way which I commanded them; they have made themselves a molded image.’

“Furthermore the Lord spoke to me, saying, ‘I have seen this people, and indeed they are a stiff-necked people. Let Me alone, that I may destroy them and blot out their name from under heaven; and I will make of you a nation mightier and greater than they.’

And, in fact, the LORD has done this.

“Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.

 

[soul man]

The LORD was going to do that with Moses and certainly would have had not Moses pleaded for Mercy on behalf of the people.

“Then the Lord said to me, ‘Arise, go down quickly from here, for your people whom you brought out of Egypt have acted corruptly; they have quickly turned aside from the way which I commanded them; they have made themselves a molded image.’

“Furthermore the Lord spoke to me, saying, ‘I have seen this people, and indeed they are a stiff-necked people. Let Me alone, that I may destroy them and blot out their name from under heaven; and I will make of you a nation mightier and greater than they.’

And, in fact, the LORD has done this.

“Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.

Ok and so where is our life coming from in doing or believing? Do we back out of the cross and go back into the Old that had nothing to do with us to begin with. I don't get what is the appeal for doing something that has nothing to do with life. There is no life in the Old Testament.

12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. - 1 John 5:12-13.

And go where in the Old Testament to find life?

 

[theefaith]

Be Forewarned = Perversion of His Word will guarantee your place in the Lake of Fire.

All worshippers of Mary will end up there.

Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.

IT IS UNLAWFUL TO WORSHIP OR ADORE ANY CREATURE INCLUDING MARY AND THE SAINTS!

what perversion of His word?

 

[David in NJ]

Ok and so where is our life coming from in doing or believing? Do we back out of the cross and go back into the Old that had nothing to do with us to begin with. I don't get what is the appeal for doing something that has nothing to do with life. There is no life in the Old Testament.

12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. - 1 John 5:12-13.

And go where in the Old Testament to find life?

You missed it.

Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Christ Jesus, 2who was faithful to Him who appointed Him, as Moses also was faithful in all His house. 3For this One has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as He who built the house has more honor than the house. 4For every house is built by someone, but He who built all things is God. 5And Moses indeed was faithful in all His house as a servant, for a testimony of those things which would be spoken afterward, 6but Christ as a Son over His own house, whose house we are if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope [a]firm to the end.
Be Faithful

7Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says:

“Today, if you will hear His voice,
8Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion,
In the day of trial in the wilderness,
9Where your fathers tested Me, tried Me,
And saw My works forty years.
10Therefore I was angry with that generation,
And said, ‘They always go astray in their heart,
And they have not known My ways.’
11So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest.’ ”

12Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; 13but https://biblehub.com/nkjv/hebrews/3.htm#footnotesexhort one another daily, while it is called “Today,” lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. 14For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end, 15while it is said:

“Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.”

Failure of the Wilderness Wanderers
16For who, having heard, rebelled? Indeed, was it not all who came out of Egypt, led by Moses? 17Now with whom was He angry forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose corpses fell in the wilderness? 18And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest, but to those who did not obey? 19So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

 

[theefaith]

You missed it.

Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Christ Jesus, 2who was faithful to Him who appointed Him, as Moses also was faithful in all His house. 3For this One has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as He who built the house has more honor than the house. 4For every house is built by someone, but He who built all things is God. 5And Moses indeed was faithful in all His house as a servant, for a testimony of those things which would be spoken afterward, 6but Christ as a Son over His own house, whose house we are if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope [a]firm to the end.
Be Faithful

7Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says:

“Today, if you will hear His voice,
8Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion,
In the day of trial in the wilderness,
9Where your fathers tested Me, tried Me,
And saw My works forty years.
10Therefore I was angry with that generation,
And said, ‘They always go astray in their heart,
And they have not known My ways.’
11So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest.’ ”

12Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; 13but exhort one another daily, while it is called “Today,” lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. 14For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end, 15while it is said:

“Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.”

Failure of the Wilderness Wanderers
16For who, having heard, rebelled? Indeed, was it not all who came out of Egypt, led by Moses? 17Now with whom was He angry forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose corpses fell in the wilderness? 18And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest, but to those who did not obey? 19So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

need faith and Christian baptism to be alive in Christ eph 2 He quickened us! Brought to life by faith and baptism

 

[Taken]

ALWAYS BAD NEWS if an angel appears without any words of comfort

The interesting thing about an angel greeting Mary, is what the angel said to Mary.

Luke
[28] And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
[30] And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.

And considering history, of Favour being discussed 75+ times in the OT, the great Time lapse, between the OT and NT, the first time Favour is mentioned in the NT is in Luke, by a messenger of God, directly speaking to Mary.

Not at all, would I think such a message given Mary, (or anyone in THAT day or THIS day), be...
Not usual, surprising, a wonderment, a huh, wow, why me...

The point is...God sent His messengers to many individuals that God found favorable to accomplish His will...(Moses, Abram, Issac, Jacob, Joseph, David, Saul, for example were all found favorable to accomplish Gods will).

Catholic clerics, (ie a handful of men in their secluded gatherings of ancient councils) have TURNED Gods FINDING of “favor” of Mary, into a long drawn out lie up lie. (And to correct their error, would deflate, burst the bubble, shatter the control, of the long standing teaching that their Popes are infallible).
I simply find, early Catholic clerics, were ignorant, could not give an answer to wondering listeners of HOW something holy, could be born forth out of the womb of a natural born sinful human female....thus the concocted lie....oh, um, Mary was sinless, so problemo’ !

God FINDING FAVOR in Mary, had nothing whatsoever, with her being, Mary “supposedly” being without sin.

Gods WHY of FINDING FAVOR in Mary, is expressly taught IN the Knowledge revealed IN Scripture.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[theefaith]

The interesting thing about an angel greeting Mary, is what the angel said to Mary.

Luke
[28] And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
[30] And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.

And considering history, of Favour being discussed 75+ times in the OT, the great Time lapse, between the OT and NT, the first time Favour is mentioned in the NT is in Luke, by a messenger of God, directly speaking to Mary.

Not at all, would I think such a message given Mary, (or anyone in THAT day or THIS day), be...
Not usual, surprising, a wonderment, a huh, wow, why me...

The point is...God sent His messengers to many individuals that God found favorable to accomplish His will...(Moses, Abram, Issac, Jacob, Joseph, David, Saul, for example were all found favorable to accomplish Gods will).

Catholic clerics, (ie a handful of men in their secluded gatherings of ancient councils) have TURNED Gods FINDING of “favor” of Mary, into a long drawn out lie up lie. (And to correct their error, would deflate, burst the bubble, shatter the control, of the long standing teaching that their Popes are infallible).
I simply find, early Catholic clerics, were ignorant, could not give an answer to wondering listeners of HOW something holy, could be born forth out of the womb of a natural born sinful human female....thus the concocted lie....oh, um, Mary was sinless, so problemo’ !

God FINDING FAVOR in Mary, had nothing whatsoever, with her being, Mary “supposedly” being without sin.

Gods WHY of FINDING FAVOR in Mary, is expressly taught IN the Knowledge revealed IN Scripture.

Glory to God,
Taken

behold the favor Mary is Jesus Christ!!!

savior!!!

salvation!!!!

but I know that’s not important to a DIY religion where you are you’re own savior!

I had faith once! I’m born again!
New creation! Whatever!!!

 

[David in NJ]

behold the favor Mary is Jesus Christ!!!

savior!!!

salvation!!!!

but I know that’s not important to a DIY religion where you are you’re own savior!

I had faith once! I’m born again!
New creation! Whatever!!!

When God calls us to Christ, it is the SAME Favor that Mary found when the angel was sent to her.

There is no Higher Favor then Salvation, just as Mary, herself rejoiced in = Luke 1:46-55

Then Mary said:
“My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior! For He has looked with favor on the humble state of His servant.

From now on all generations will call me blessed. For the Mighty One has done great things for me.

Holy is His name. His mercy extends to those who fear Him,

from generation to generation.He has performed mighty deeds with His arm;

He has scattered those who are proud

in the thoughts of their hearts. He has brought down rulers from their thrones,

but has exalted the humble. He has filled the hungry with good things,

but has sent the rich away empty. He has helped His servant Israel,

remembering to be merciful, as He promised to our fathers,

to Abraham and his descendants forever.”

 

[Taken]

behold the favor Mary is Jesus Christ!!!

savior!!!

salvation!!!!

but I know that’s not important to a DIY religion where you are you’re own savior!

I had faith once! I’m born again!
New creation! Whatever!!!

Oh, look, YOU are expressing YOUR excitement !!!!!!!!!!!! OF YOUR Speech.
I don’t share YOUR excitement over YOUR words...
Considering getting a mirror and not post to me.

 

[Desire Of All Nations]

People in this thread are ignoring Paul's own words in Gal. 1 where he said the gospel he taught didn't come from any man. They are also ignoring the fact that he pronounced a double curse on any man that taught their own gospel, which would logically include himself.

No, I don't think Peter knew any better at the time. Paul concluded - if you feel God called you to preach circumcision then you should go preach circumcision. As for me (Paul) God called me to preach uncircumcision. Peter came to a better understanding of the cross. We can base that on his Epistles, and what he said on Pentecost. Two different messages come out of him. Peter talks about new birth and the seed in his epistles, and so on. But it wasn't until Paul was preaching. He never really took Paul like Paul was to be taken and he says Paul was a hard man to take. Nothing bad on Peter, he grew like any one else. It is there to read.. written. I say things from some of my study through the years.. conversation.. good fellowship with those that I feel had a good understanding.

There weren't 2 different messages being taught by Peter and Paul. First of all, Peter started preaching years before Paul ever became a Christian. Secondly, Peter didn't say Paul was a difficult man to deal with. What he actually said was that Paul's writings could be hard to understand in certain places because of the way Paul phrased the theology. Paul's theology was completely consistent with the theology that was taught by Christ and the other apostles, even though he phrased it differently. It stands to reason that Paul would phrase the theology differently since he was a Pharisee.

Ok and so where is our life coming from in doing or believing? Do we back out of the cross and go back into the Old that had nothing to do with us to begin with. I don't get what is the appeal for doing something that has nothing to do with life. There is no life in the Old Testament.

12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. - 1 John 5:12-13.

And go where in the Old Testament to find life?

You couldn't possibly be more wrong by arguing the OT has nothing to do with Christianity and that it has no life:

“It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ” - Matt. 4:4

“This is he who was in the congregation in the wilderness with the Angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our fathers, the one who received the living oracles to give to us,"- Acts 7:38

“For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.” - Acts 15:21

"Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they(OT scriptures) were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come." - 1 Cor. 10:11

"having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone," - Eph. 2:20

"and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." - 2 Tim. 3:15-17

The people who say the OT has no value for Christians are displaying the fact that they lack a tremendous amount of understanding concerning biblical matters. The purpose of the NT is to support what was written in the OT, not replace or invalidate was written in the OT. As Paul said in Rom. 15:8, Christ came to confirm the promises that were made. Any brand of Christianity that doesn't include the OT as a source of doctrinal authority and practice is automatically false.

 

[David in NJ]

People in this thread are ignoring Paul's own words in Gal. 1 where he said the gospel he taught didn't come from any man. They are also ignoring the fact that he pronounced a double curse on any man that taught their own gospel, which would logically include himself.
There weren't 2 different messages being taught by Peter and Paul. First of all, Peter started preaching years before Paul ever became a Christian. Secondly, Peter didn't say Paul was a difficult man to deal with. What he actually said was that Paul's writings could be hard to understand in certain places because of the way Paul phrased the theology. Paul's theology was completely consistent with the theology that was taught by Christ and the other apostles, even though he phrased it differently. It stands to reason that Paul would phrase the theology differently since he was a Pharisee.
You couldn't possibly be more wrong by arguing the OT has nothing to do with Christianity and that it has no life:

“It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ” - Matt. 4:4

“This is he who was in the congregation in the wilderness with the Angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our fathers, the one who received the living oracles to give to us,"- Acts 7:38

“For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.” - Acts 15:21

"Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they(OT scriptures) were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come." - 1 Cor. 10:11

"having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone," - Eph. 2:20

"and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." - 2 Tim. 3:15-17

The people who say the OT has no value for Christians are displaying the fact that they lack a tremendous amount of understanding concerning biblical matters. The purpose of the NT is to support what was written in the OT, not replace or invalidate was written in the OT. As Paul said in Rom. 15:8, Christ came to confirm the promises that were made. Any brand of Christianity that doesn't include the OT as a source of doctrinal authority and practice is automatically false.

And Genesis is the Foundation of TRUTH for ALL Scripture that would follow.

 

[MatthewG]

Paul’s Gospel is so much better than Sauls Gospel that would lead you down to be put completely to death. The difference between Saul and Paul, is the flesh vs the spiritual aspects.

 

[soul man]

You couldn't possibly be more wrong by arguing the OT has nothing to do with Christianity and that it has no life:

Where did you read that. Reading into something and reading what is said is two different things. Who said it has nothing to do with christianity. Assumption is clearly the way scriptures is being read today, as well as delivered. Religion works best in assuming a thing and taking a stance on that assumption. OP CIP. You still see no life in the Son only - I gave the scrptures? As it is written in scripture clearly - do you honestly try to glean life from the Old? You can find some life in the Old - but it will definitely not be the Christ life! Where do you see spiritual life in the Old Testament, please give the proper scripture/scriptures - the one you gave for life is very weak even if stretched. Other than people doing something to be something in themselves; there is no life in the Old Testament - please can you show Jesus as the life of a believer in the Old Testament? I'm sure you can find a gospel to fit that! Lay it out if you will.

 

[charity]

Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, - Romans 16:25 .

Underline 'my gospel.' My gospel - is the most important words in your Bible. 'My gospel' - written 3 times in scripture. We need to take a serious look at that, and follow through on it's instructions. When Paul instructs believers to follow him, what did he mean by that?
You follow Paul through his Epistle's.

He wrote 14 books of the bible, and they are all written directly to you. It is "the gospel of grace written to the born again." Why would the born again need a gospel? Because they never existed before in the world - and they never had a gospel. It is that simple - we needed our own message to go with the cross and the new birth. You didn't know you had your own message but you do. He is very protective of his gospel. He gives many warning about his gospel not being like other gospels - It has no law in it. Paul moved in fear and trembling because of his gospel. He guarded his gospel from his own background, always afraid he would mix law with the grace he was receiving by revelation. That was Paul's fear and trembling. Paul was above many of his peers when it came to understanding Jewish law and traditions. Very educated man, but that understanding was giving way to the new understanding of Christ in you.

Paul spent a few years in the desert (getting out of his mind alot of his law understanding, IMO), we don't know why but I speculate - the Lord was working on Paul to get a lot of his old understanding out of him so he could understand this new message of grace.

Why would Paul use the kind of language he uses such as; my gospel? He separated his gospel from anything else anyone would say. He would put his gospel up against any message that would try to displace his gospel of grace - knowing the law would separate believers (in mind - not knowing who they are) and not establish them in Christ. It was the gospel that was given to him to give to us - this new race of people to be born (birthed by God the father) into existence that never existed before! The born again believer! ..scripture calls them.

He wanted us to know he had the message to the born again. Look at some of the problems he with some of the other Apostles. We have to confront religious ideas about scripture - the idea we get that everybody gets along and it's all ok. It was not ok, they had many run ins, and it was all over the gospel. You will have to confront that if you follow Paul. All they knew was law and Paul came with this new message of grace and it didn't fit what other's believed. That was a problem for Paul and he would confront those with his gospel. He had to because God was bringing in the message for the new creation people that had started on the day of Pentecost.

A new people with a new gospel, and Christianity was born! Follow Paul, as he followed the Lord in getting the new revelation gospel revealed.

'In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men
by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.'
( Rom.2:16 )

'Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel,
and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery,
which was kept secret since the world began,'
( Rom.16:25 )

'Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David
was raised from the dead according to my gospel:'
( 2Tim. 2:8 )

Hello @soul man,

That differentiation between the Gospel that Paul preached and that being preached by others had to be made, because not only was he up against false preachers and teachers who sought to bring those converted to Chris,t by his ministry, under bondage to the law, but he also had been given a very distinct gospel to preach by revelation of the risen Christ. One which he, at divine instruction, had brought before the Jerusalem council to be heard, and was as a result pronounced, 'The Apostle to the Gentiles', and Peter, 'The Apostle to the Circumcision'.

During the early years of that Apostleship he wrote, 1 & 2 Thessalonians, 1 & 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Hebrews and Romans: seven in all. These earlier epistles reflect the truth of the gospel that Paul had received by revelation of the risen Christ, which was, 'repentance towards God, and faith towards our Lord Jesus Christ' (Acts 20:21), in fact he declared 'all the council of God' that he had received: so that he was, 'pure from the blood of all men' (Acts 20:26-27). Everything written and spoken by Paul at that time was verifiable, because made known by the Old Testament prophets, and revealed to Paul and to the other apostles by revelation from above - ie., (the mystery of Christ).

These epistles were followed by seven others, written from Prison in Rome, by Paul while under house arrest, again, by revelation of the risen Christ (Acts 26:16):- Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon. These contain the revelation of The Mystery, which had been 'hid in God' since the world began (Ephesians 4:9 & Colossians 1:26), and made known to Paul alone, therefore not verifiable by searching the Old Testament Scriptures. These are the unsearchable riches of Christ.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[amadeus]

Paul’s Gospel is so much better than Sauls Gospel that would lead you down to be put completely to death. The difference between Saul and Paul, is the flesh vs the spiritual aspects.

The difference between being led by the old man and being led by the new man!

"He must increase, but I must decrease." John 3:30