PAUL PREACHED A SECRET GOSPEL
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I feel sad for their souls. I believe Jesus does not want any to perish but to come to the knowledge of truth. Unfortunately many don't want truth, their happy with being lied to.
amigo de christo
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oh gambling is a sin all right . But seeing i used this as an expression of speech
and not as gambling for money and etc , I am sure its okay .
BUT you did bring up something very good . I BELIEVE what you brought up is worthy to be repeated .
SO allow me to do so . WHY ON EARTH do men gamble with thier own lives and trust so much in men
And not rather in what was SIMPLY WRITTEN IN THAT THERE BIBLE .
WHY GAMBLE my friend . WHEN ALL you need to do IS SIMPLY BELIEVE what ALL apostels wrote , INCLUDING paul
AND believe EVERY WORD JESUS EVER SAID . let us not be as the many
who try and say OH that was for this time or OH that apostle had this wrong etc .
BELIEVE RATHER EVERY WORD WRITTEN . understanding cometh in time .
amigo de christo
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If a donkey had been given the power and ability to write it
ITS STILL THE TRUTH OF GOD buddy .
I dont care who wrote it . BY grace i KNOW TRUTH WHEN I READ OR HEAR IT . and friend . ITS TRUTH
as is everything in them gospels , as is everthing in the letters of the apostles , TO INCLUDE and NOT OMIT paul .
I KNOW TRUTH . What YOU , my dear sir , need to ask yourself is
HOW COME I KNOW ITS TRUTH and yet you seem to pick and choose ONLY certain books .
NOW THAT IS A SERIOUS QUESTOIN INDEED .
YOU do realize men have throughout all times always PICKED AND CHOOSED . But lambs
THEY SIMPLY LOVE AND CHOOSE TRUTH . AND EVERY WORD OF GOD , INSPIRED BY GOD
MAN THAT IS TRUTH and HOW LOVELY that TRUTH has been to my soul .
amigo de christo
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YEs many loved to be lied too . now the person even has a problem with acts
BUT go ahead and ask me a question .
Say to me , HEY AMIGO what book in the bible do you have a problem with .
AND myanswer , NOT A DARN ONE OF THEM THEY ALL TRUTH . lets ponder on that for a bit .
Jesus said,you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.
It's easy to claim what is written is absolute. It is even easier to ignore the contradictions.
I will never lead you to seek and find the truth. Only God can. And Lord knows there is plenty of information in God's word to show you what I and others learned.
And when I found it, I was stunned quite frankly. Because it had been right there for centuries so to be found.
And it was. In God's own time.
Maybe you'll find it.
Till then.
amigo de christo
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I invite all to ask me
HEY amigo what part of acts , of romans , of first and second corithinans
of galations and ephesians
of phillipains and collosians
of first and second thess
of first and secondtimothy
of titus
or philemon , or hebrews
or james , or both peters and all three johns letters
or jude or revelation or any word even in the gosples , DO I NOT BELEIVE is TRUTH
and does not apply STILL to us today .
AND THE ANSWER IS A REAL SHORT ONE . NONE OF THEM . THEY ALL ARE TRUTH and every lovely WORD is TRUTH and is for us today
HECK on that note we may as well read GENSIS and all .
EVERY WORD they left us IS TRUTH and no apostel contradicted JESUS or one the other . AND THAT BE A FACT .
amigo de christo
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THERE is no contradictions . THERE is only what seems to be so .
MANY Men had NO BUSINESS trying to teach or to lead THE CHURCH friend .
THE MORE ONE READS the more one learns . EVEN what may have seemed a contradiction
was IN TRUTH a MISUNDERTSTANDING ON OUR OWN PART .
ITS ALL TRUTH baby . I REST MY CASE ON THAT too . YOU all learned of men . YOU KNOW YOU DID .
but what you did not learn was , NOT ALL MEN TEACH TRUTH . BUT THE BIBLE SURE DOES . a
Marvelloustime
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Marvelloustime
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Hey Amigo
[1Pe 2:9 KJV] 9 But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
Here is one you asked for....the body of Christ is not a royal priesthood....is not a holy nation.....this was designated for the Israel of God, the believing remnant (Exodus 40:15 Revelation 5:10 Exodus 19:6)
I agree all scripture is for us but have to be careful to what extent we apply it to ourselves.
amigo de christo
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yet again from the lips of men proceed things which ought not to have ever once be taught let alone mentioned .
THE BELIEVING JEW and GENTILE , newsflash THEY ARE THE TRUE ISRAEL OF GOD .
WITH A HEAVENLY JERUSALEM , the MOUNT ZION above . WHEREIN the TRUE TEMPLE is GOD and the Lamb .
WE ARE A HOLY NATION PADNAH . THE NATION OF GOD wherein the Beleivers of CHRIST JESUS
Are the peoples of GOD . but you go and learn what that means for yourself
[Exo 19:3-6 KJV] 3 And Moses went up unto God, and the LORD called unto him out of the mountain, saying, Thus shalt thou say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel; 4 Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and [how] I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself. 5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth [is] mine: 6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These [are] the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
Who was He telling above?,,,,I will tell you, the children of Israel...who had the covenants?....not you....He was talking about the earth in v5....who is a kingdom of priests and a holy nation?.....Israel as seen in v6
amigo de christo
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Seeing they failed HIS covenant .................due to the flesh
and seeing the law was added in DUE TO trangressions UNTIL THE TIME OF THE PROMISE .
you know the PROMISE unto abraham . THE SEED , which is CHRIST .
And now all who beleive IN HIM are the children of , the nation of , THE HOLY GOD OF ISRAEL .
But remember not all of israel ARE OF ISRAEL . now you go and you learn what that means .
Stop reading the bible through disepensationalists mindsets . Just read it for you .
What man has twisted unto a pretzel and formed into pretzel doctrine
CAN GOD make straight again . FEED ON the BIBLE . AND WHEN YA DO SO , DONT DO SO
through the dispenastalistions view or the view of any men . READ IT FOR YOU and YOU SEE
what happens in time
You might note the twelve anointed Apostles of Jesus and the other 70 He sent out preached the Gospel of the Kingdom of God.
Saul taught his gospel of grace. And,as Saul said, with a thorn in his side,a messenger of Satan, there to torment him.
The other Apostles did not suffer that.
2 Corinthians 12:7-9
What verse can you cite that shows the church today, the body of Christ, is a holy nation...please support your contention
amigo de christo
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Any jew who denies GOD gets cast out pardner .
And well , if a jew denies JESUS IS THE CHRIST , GUESS WHO that there jew is calling a liar . GOD HIMSELF .
the KINGDOM is now believing jews and gentiles who beleive JESUS IS THE CHRIST
the true israel of GOD , not after the flesh , BUT BORN OF THE SPIRIT .
for the flesh profits nothing . TIME we get busy preaching JESUS dougie
and never once heed a word one outta satans anti christ interfaith lie . I mean dont even touch the unlcean thing .
FLEE that HARLOTS HOLE of darkness and let inclusive false love be put far from one .
Many now follow THE HARLOT and that which is of anti christ . GUESS what
they all think it is , GOD AND HIS LOVE , only ITS SATAN and HIS GRAND LIE .
amigo de christo
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what peter wrote to the church . what you gonna try and claim that applied to believing jews only . wrong again pardnah .
Cause even peter says YE WHO WERE NOT a people are NOW THE PEOPLE . yeah learn and read and read and learn my friend .
1Peter 2
English Standard Version
A Living Stone and a Holy People
2 (A)So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander. 2 (B)Like newborn infants, long for the pure spiritual (C)milk, that by it you may grow up into salvation— 3 if indeed you have (D)tasted that the Lord is good.4 As you come to him, a living stone (E)rejected by men but in the sight of God chosen and precious, 5 (F)you yourselves like living stones are being built up as (G)a spiritual house, to be (H)a holy priesthood, (I)to offer spiritual sacrifices (J)acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 For it stands in Scripture:
(K)“Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone,
a cornerstone chosen and precious,
(L)and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.”
7 So the honor is for you who (M)believe, but for those who (N)do not believe,
(O)“The stone that the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone,”[a]
8 and
(P)“A stone of stumbling,
and a rock of offense.”
They stumble because they disobey the word, (Q)as they were destined to do.
9 But you are (R)a chosen race, (S)a royal (T)priesthood, (U)a holy nation, (V)a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you (W)out of darkness into (X)his marvelous light.
Bible Gateway passage: 1 Peter 2 - English Standard Version
A Living Stone and a Holy People - So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander. Like newborn infants, long for the pure spiritual milk, that by it you may grow up into salvation— if indeed you have tasted that the Lord is good. As you come to him, a living stone...
