PAUL PREACHED A SECRET GOSPEL

[pepper]

Precious friend, respectfully Disagree Because God Does Not Have "the Same tactic of the enemy":
Biblical Confirmation:

Bible Contrasts
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BRIEF 'Example' Of Right Division
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God's Approval/TWO Gospels In Prophecy vs Mystery
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"Distinctions" of Prophecy vs MYSTERY (God's Hidden 'Secret!')
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No Other Doctrine But Right Division!
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Biblical 'Representations' of Twelve and ONE
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unScriptural or UNdispensational?

Please Be Very Richly Encouraged And Edified In
The Lord Jesus Christ, and In His Word of Truth, Rightly
Divided!

Amen.

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I agree. God would never ordain a gospel in secret.

Mark 13
20 “If the Lord had not cut short those days, no one would survive. But for the sake of the elect, whom he has chosen, he has shortened them. 21 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘Look, there he is!’ do not believe it.(O) 22 For false messiahs and false prophets(P) will appear and perform signs and wonders(Q) to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 23 So be on your guard;(R) I have told you everything ahead of time.


2 Corinthians 12
Paul’s Concern for the Corinthians

11 I have made a fool of myself,(X) but you drove me to it. I ought to have been commended by you, for I am not in the least inferior to the “super-apostles,”[a](Y) even though I am nothing.(Z) 12 I persevered in demonstrating among you the marks of a true apostle, including signs, wonders and miracles.(AA)

Hebrews 15:18-19
For I will not venture to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me to bring the Gentiles to obedience—by word and deed, by the power of signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God—so that from Jerusalem and all the way around to Illyricum I have fulfilled the ministry of the gospel of Christ;

 

[GRACE ambassador]

I agree. God would never ordain a gospel in secret.

Thank you. Yes Indeed, When God Ordained His Chosen apostle Paul, To Send him To the Gentiles,
He Then Revealed [ Publicly ] To him His Previously [ Secret ] "Hidden In God" [ HimSelf ]
"Revelation Of The Mystery" (Romans - Philemon AV), Correct?:

"The Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. Now To Him That Is Of Power To Stablish ​

you according To my Gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, According to The Revelation Of ​

The Mystery, Which Was Kept Secret since the world began" (Romans 16:25 AV)​

The Gospel Of Grace Revealed [ Publically ] To Paul the [ ONE ] apostle, For us,

[ with Heavenly Hope! ] The [ ONE ] Body Of Christ...​

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

The gospel of the kingdom Was Revealed [ Publically, According To Prophecy ] to the twelve apostles,
for [ with earthly hope ], the Twelve tribes of Israel:

"And He Shall Send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven​

must receive until the times of restitution of all things, Which God Hath Spoken by the mouth​

of all his holy prophets since the world began." (Acts 3:20-21 AV) [ Publically, Correct?]...​

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Thus, we are Commanded, In The Current Dispensation Of Grace That Only God, The
Holy Spirit Can Help us "see", Correct?:

"And to make all men see what is the fellowship of The Mystery, Which from the beginning of​

the world hath been Hid In God, Who Created all things By Jesus Christ" (Ephesians 3:9 AV)​

Precious friend, have you yet, or will, prayerfully and Carefully reviewed / review any of these studies { to "see"? }?:

Bible Contrasts
+
BRIEF 'Example' Of Right Division
+
God's Approval/TWO Gospels In Prophecy vs Mystery
+
"Distinctions" of Prophecy vs MYSTERY (God's Hidden 'Secret!')
+
No Other Doctrine But Right Division!
+
Biblical 'Representations' of Twelve and ONE
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unScriptural or UNdispensational?

Amen.

 

[Marvelloustime]

paul would have rebuked pauline theology . mark my words , oh mark them well . THEY twist even HIS own words .
Not an apostle one , nor paul later an apostel taught any different gospel .
James nor pual contradicted each other either . folks just dont know the bible
and what bible they do know has been twisted by mens own doctrines and theologies . that be the problem .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

Dont let them fool you . paul preached the very same gospel as did peter and james , john and all .
Pauline theology that many teach , EVEN PAUL had rebuked them all for doing so .
As would james and others . THEY were IN AGREEMENT friend .
MEN just twist stuff is all and often unto their own destruction .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

Dance a jig of praise unto the GLORIOUS LORD . His coming draws ever nigh
and BEHOLD HE DO COME QUICKLY
EVEN SO , COME LORD JESUS .

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

I am not Pauline. I do not believe Paul taught the Gospel of Christ Jesus that Christ Jesus imparted to his anointed Apostles.

The secret gospel idea is just another tactic of the enemy.

Paul did preach the same gospel . they all did . The dire need to believe on JESUS , His death burial and ressurection .
People misinterpret paul just as they do james and others .

 

[amigo de christo]

I agree. God would never ordain a gospel in secret.

Mark 13
20 “If the Lord had not cut short those days, no one would survive. But for the sake of the elect, whom he has chosen, he has shortened them. 21 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘Look, there he is!’ do not believe it.(O) 22 For false messiahs and false prophets(P) will appear and perform signs and wonders(Q) to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 23 So be on your guard;(R) I have told you everything ahead of time.


2 Corinthians 12
Paul’s Concern for the Corinthians

11 I have made a fool of myself,(X) but you drove me to it. I ought to have been commended by you, for I am not in the least inferior to the “super-apostles,”[a](Y) even though I am nothing.(Z) 12 I persevered in demonstrating among you the marks of a true apostle, including signs, wonders and miracles.(AA)

Hebrews 15:18-19
For I will not venture to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me to bring the Gentiles to obedience—by word and deed, by the power of signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God—so that from Jerusalem and all the way around to Illyricum I have fulfilled the ministry of the gospel of Christ;

correct , these others who are trying to make it seem like a SECRETE etc are misinterpreting what paul meant .
Kept secrete since the world began , now made manifiest through PREACHING the gospel .
THE MYSTERY . in other words GOD had now revealed that same gospel to paul . SAME ONE .
not a secrete one . THEY misinterpret it , and thus they try and make it seem like TWO gospel etc stuff .

 

[rebuilder 454]

So this is the gospel you believe
[1Co 15:1, 3-4 KJV] 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; ... 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Jesus and Peter said the same thing.

You claim only Paul had the correct interpretation.

It was PAUL that said NO SCRIPTURE is of private interpretation.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Paul stated he was not sent to baptize. In one epistle he was grateful he had not baptized certain ones.


And Paul was a Pharisee who knew the meaning and importance of the Mikvah.

...and yet Paul did baptize.
That claim that Paul did not baptize is pure baloney.

 

[amigo de christo]

I am not Pauline. I do not believe Paul taught the Gospel of Christ Jesus that Christ Jesus imparted to his anointed Apostles.

The secret gospel idea is just another tactic of the enemy.

you wrote and said i am not pauline . FRIEND NEITHER WAS PAUL . Now that is what i have been trying to tell you .
MEN twisted things paul said to created their own PAULINE THEOLOGY .

 

[Titus]

According to Dispensationalist's Paul's gospel was faith alone salvation meaning no obedient works of commandment keeping was preached by Paul.

There proof text is Romans 16.
Paul preaches belief and obedience to Christ for salvation in Romans 16 contradicting their claim that Paul's gospel excludes obedient works,

Romans 16:24-27,
- now to Him that is of power to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ according to the revelation of the mystery which was kept secret since the world began But  now is made known and by the Scriptures of the prophets according to the commandments of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith

Paul never taught no obedience for salvation.
Dispensationalism is a new gospel that is supposedly preached by Paul.
Paul himself contradicts their claims.

Galatians 3:23-27,
- but before faith came we were kept under the law(of Moses) shut up unto the faith(Paul's gospel) which should afterwards be revealed
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ that we might be justified by faith
But after faith came we are no longer under a schoolmaster
For ye are all children of God by faith in Christ Jesus
-  for(this greek word is gar, it means for the reason given)
- for as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ

Paul preached baptism in his gospel.
Paul teaches us that we are all children of God by faith in Christ.
In the next verse he explains how by faith we are in Christ.
Greek word gar meaning the reason, as many of you have been baptized into Christ.

Paul's gospel includes baptism as the act of faith that puts one in Christ.
Paul's gospel was never faith apart from obedience to Christs commandments in His new will and testament.

 

[Doug]

Jesus and Peter said the same thing.

Where did Jesus and Peter say Christ died for our sins in the gospels

 

[pepper]

you wrote and said i am not pauline . FRIEND NEITHER WAS PAUL . Now that is what i have been trying to tell you .
MEN twisted things paul said to created their own PAULINE THEOLOGY .

I arrive at my opinion reading Paul's Epistles.

 

[pepper]

...and yet Paul did baptize.
That claim that Paul did not baptize is pure baloney.

Yes,boloney. Pay no attention to the fact no one said Paul never baptized.

Rather the fact is Paul said he was not sent to baptize. And even said he was glad he didn't baptize some.

 

[Titus]

Yes,boloney. Pay no attention to the fact no one said Paul never baptized.

Rather the fact is Paul said he was not sent to baptize. And even said he was glad he didn't baptize some.

Why did Paul say he was glad he didn't baptize all of the church at Corinth?
You cannot understand why Paul made the statement he was glad he had not baptized all of them if you do not know the context of 1Corinthians chapter 1.

 

[pepper]

Why did Paul say he was glad he didn't baptize all of the church at Corinth?
You cannot understand why Paul made the statement he was glad he had not baptized all of them if you do not know the context of 1Corinthians chapter 1.

You presume much.

Have a good day.

 

[Titus]

You presume much.

Have a good day.

Hello, I dont know which position you take, for or against baptism in Paul's gospel.
I'm asking you if you can give an explanation to why Paul said he was glad he did not baptize all the church at Corinth.
Thanks

 

[amigo de christo]

I arrive at my opinion reading Paul's Epistles.

If that opinion is paul somehow contradicted CHRIST , then the opinion was a bad one .
I know full grown false teachers in the socalled be a jew movement that call paul as erroneous . BOY do they gots some learningto do .
I have seen the other side try and call james epistel as though it do not apply to the church .
BOY i gots to say they dead wrong too . EVERY LETTER WRITTEN agreed COMPLETELY with JESUS
and Each ones letter . IF we seem to see a contradiction , ITS THE WE who are not understanding
THIS usually occurs from a lack of loving on every word written n the bible and a love for men who twist it

 

[pepper]

Hello, I dont know which position you take, for or against baptism in Paul's gospel.
I'm asking you if you can give an explanation to why Paul said he was glad he did not baptize all the church at Corinth.
Thanks

What did Paul tell you?
14: I thank God that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius 15: so no one can say that you were baptized in my name. 16: (Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don't remember if I baptized anyone else.) 17: For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel--not with wisdom and eloquence, lest thecross of Christ be emptied of its power.
1 Corinthians 1:14-17


Why is that a problem?What did Jesus say?

''Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.'' Mark 16:16

 

[amigo de christo]

I arrive at my opinion reading Paul's Epistles.

survey says , i bet you are tied into a jewish movement of sorts .
What lens did you read it through , THEIRS i suspect .
Now you know i do love you and i have seen you speak some good truth .
But i have also seen a deadly error in ya . IF you think for a second paul taught error
THINK again .
No worries i rip in shreads the hyper grace movement too .
You might want to ask yourself a question .
HOW COME i see ALL THE LETTERS as TRUTH and yet those who chose a teaching of men
SEEM TO PIT what one said against what another said . That is called loving something men taught .
From JESUS , to the twelve , to what paul and jude and others wrote . NOT A WORD one contradicts the others .
ITS LOVELY TRUTH and boy is it LOVELY . MEN DID THIS , NOT GOD .